Batman: Arkham Asylum Enables AA Only on NVIDIA Hardware on PCs

Velvet Wafer · Sep 29, 2009

lol, another weak attempt from the green team, to stop the red team on its rise to equally.
i want a 50/50 share, with massive battles

KainXS · Sep 29, 2009

More than likely Nvidia payed the devs to to that,

thats fucked up man, I have an nvidia card right now, but thats just bs

bad for the devs too

and changing the cards device ID via flashing is not easy to do for novices and always voids your warranty,

this is really anticompetitive stuff they are doing, but they have done it before I think so. . . . .

But I have an Nvidia card XD

DaedalusHelios · Sep 29, 2009

mdm-adph said:
DH, there's optimizing games to work better, and there's purposefully making a game work shittier on a competitor's product.

It is selective IQ performance enhancing features offered to one companies GPU. It doesn't detect an ATi GPU and say "reduce performance". It detects an ATi GPU and removes a feature that the game offers to improve the game's IQ while selectively minimizing the load on the GPU by AA'ing only things it deems necessary.

It does not retard the ATi card. It just makes sure certain optimizations only can be used as developed for Nvidia's offerings.

If two computers, one ATi and one Nvidia, both don't have the box checked there is no difference. Thats why your statement "cannot hold water" as they say.

FordGT90Concept · Sep 29, 2009

HalfAHertz said:
Maybe it's just a bug that will be resolved in the next patch

I tend to agree. NVIDIA is making an ass of themselves but this sounds more like an Eidos mix up than NVIDIA backdoor deal. If Eidos doesn't fix it then yeah, foul play most likely was involved.

KainXS · Sep 29, 2009

Hey for you know HE'S coming right . . . . .

DaedalusHelios · Sep 29, 2009

KainXS said:
Hey for you know HE'S coming right . . . . .

What Zalgo?

tkpenalty · Sep 29, 2009

AA disabled because of securom.

That is just absolute abuse of whats supposed to be keeping piracy at bay. Again Nvidia tries to grab more shareholders through fabricated crap. Nice damage minimisation by nvidia, but a nice way to get into court as well. Normally its due to hardware reasons, but this isnt the case.

I'll just pirate this game.

Disparia · Sep 29, 2009

DaedalusHelios said:
What Zalgo?

OH F**K!

Anyhoo.... no anger. Just not going to buy the game. Done.

phanbuey · Sep 29, 2009

Desperate times call for desperate measures. :laugh:

my next cards will be ati.

MilkyWay · Sep 29, 2009

There is nothing we can do about it but i think that they shouldn't have done that the developers are shafting ATi users, ultimately the developers could have said no but money talks i guess.

Nvidia can do it and we might not like it but its nothing illegal just a bit sad.

Its like buying the last cake so that your mate cant have it even though you are full up.

HossHuge · Sep 29, 2009

It seems to me that who ever the company was that made the game wouldn't want to piss off 40% of the market.

MilkyWay · Sep 29, 2009

HossHuge said:
It seems to me that who ever the company was that made the game wouldn't want to piss off 40% of the market.

well they guessed that ati users would still buy it and not notice plus they got paid and ait can do nothing about it

nvidia are just being arseholes!

i am no fanboy for graphics cards i use whatever is the best value at the time and last time it happend to be the gtx 260

DaedalusHelios · Sep 29, 2009

tkpenalty said:
I'll just pirate this game.

I don't think we can talk about piracy on techpowerup.

I get most games bundled free from videocard purchases so I really don't pay either.

Easo · Sep 29, 2009

INSTG8R said:
Dirty trick...Makes me wonder if its this same sorta tactic that is making ATI cards run like junk in NFS Shift..

I wondered about the same thing.

rpsgc · Sep 29, 2009

"The Way It's Meant To Be Paid"

Just another day in the office.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Sep 29, 2009

batman can kiss my ass anyway

mechtech · Sep 29, 2009

This doesnt surprise me coming from Nvidia, I still have a bitter taste in my mouth when they bought out Uli and discontinued driver support for their chipsets.

Ah well, I only have time for a bit of CS source once in a while anyway.

Someone once said in a forum once that Nvidia's CEO was kinda like Mao, I wonder....hmmmmmmmm.

tkpenalty · Sep 29, 2009

DaedalusHelios said:
I don't think we can talk about piracy on techpowerup.

I get most games bundled free from videocard purchases so I really don't pay either.

Its a protest =_=.... Not a serious one.

HossHuge · Sep 29, 2009

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
batman can kiss my ass anyway

Mine 2, God dam it!!.... :laugh:

tkpenalty · Sep 29, 2009

Funny how nvidia's drivers have been getting worse and worse for their lower-mid range products every release too.

mdm-adph · Sep 29, 2009

DaedalusHelios said:
It is selective IQ performance enhancing features offered to one companies GPU. It doesn't detect an ATi GPU and say "reduce performance". It detects an ATi GPU and removes a feature that the game offers to improve the game's IQ while selectively minimizing the load on the GPU by AA'ing only things it deems necessary.

It does not retard the ATi card. It just makes sure certain optimizations only can be used as developed for Nvidia's offerings.

If two computers, one ATi and one Nvidia, both don't have the box checked there is no difference. Thats why your statement "cannot hold water" as they say.

"Removing a feature," especially when it comes to making the game look better through AA, is pretty much the same as "making it run shittier," since I care about IQ.

I don't believe for a second that there was something about this game that didn't allow it to run AA just FINE on ATI hardware, especially considering (like one poster pointed out) it's an Xbox port. :shadedshu

ShinyG · Sep 29, 2009

DaedalusHelios said:
It is selective IQ performance enhancing features offered to one companies GPU. It doesn't detect an ATi GPU and say "reduce performance". It detects an ATi GPU and removes a feature that the game offers to improve the game's IQ while selectively minimizing the load on the GPU by AA'ing only things it deems necessary.

It does not retard the ATi card. It just makes sure certain optimizations only can be used as developed for Nvidia's offerings.

If two computers, one ATi and one Nvidia, both don't have the box checked there is no difference. Thats why your statement "cannot hold water" as they say.

"Removing features" and "retarding" are very similar, I would dare say identical" if you look at it from a neutral point of view. Calling it other names like "optimizations" doesn't make it any different, it's still a basic feature disabled on ATi cards by the developer. The reason for this might be performance related, but ATi's statement seems to point that there is no problem running the game on ATi hardware with AA. It could also be a programming mistake or it might be related to the TWIMTBP logo at the beginning of the game.

ZoneDymo · Sep 29, 2009

Say did they not did something similair with Assassins Creed?
AC had DX 10.1 and under it, it ran better on ATI hardware, then in a later "patch", directX 10.1 support was removed under the reason on "being unstable".

entropy13 · Sep 29, 2009

ZoneDymo said:
Say did they not did something similair with Assassins Creed?
AC had DX 10.1 and under it, it ran better on ATI hardware, then in a later "patch", directX 10.1 support was removed under the reason on "being unstable".

Nvidia pressured Ubisoft to remove DirectX 10.1 support.

naoan · Sep 29, 2009

Bah, I have ATi card and even though I don't use AA cause of my weak GPU, I dropped my plan to buy this game cause of this shit. :shadedshu

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