AMD Updates CPU Schedule

[pantherx12]

I'm currently making my 905e a 955 95w specs : ]

 

[Kantastic]

Great more regret for going i7.

 

[Melvis]

Iam planning to get the 965 as my next CPU upgrade, and the lower the Watts the better and its also dropped another $100 here in AUS.

SC doesn't utilize 4 cores well at all, 1 core is maxed out and the others are running at like 5%, but it helps alot in SC to play the game smoothly and handle thousands of units.

L4D now that Utilizes 4 cores very well

SC was tested on a 9950

L4D was tested on a 945

 

[angelkiller]

This article would be alot easier to follow if there was a chart or some kind of visual.

 

[1Kurgan1]

I'm currently making my 905e a 955 95w specs : ]

Problem with that is you dont have the higher multi or uppable multi to get higher clocks, also most likely a lower binned chip, going to 3.2ghz is a nice gain, but thats a pretty low clock compared to what the 955 could achieve.

 

[pantherx12]

I've seen reviewers with stock cooling hit 3.6 with these chips XD

Considering stock speed is 2.5 I think that's pretty good.

I'm running at 3.25ghz at the moment 1.285 volts in bios, 0.950 volts when I idle ( cpuz and AMD overdrive) and 0.987 volts underload.

Using a domino ALC to cool it at the moment ( although it is modded) 22c idle 37 underload.

Its 100% stable at the moment so I might try reducing voltage further.

Thing is I've no idea how to Over clock with AMD chips so I'm not sure what other voltages etc can help me push this thing further.

I want at least 3.5ghz.

 

[Munki]

I sure hope that this goes down with the 965 @ 125w BE This is the reason im waiting for this instead of finishing my build!

 

[Velvet Wafer]

I've seen reviewers with stock cooling hit 3.6 with these chips XD

Considering stock speed is 2.5 I think that's pretty good.

I'm running at 3.25ghz at the moment 1.285 volts in bios, 0.950 volts when I idle ( cpuz and AMD overdrive) and 0.987 volts underload.

Using a domino ALC to cool it at the moment ( although it is modded) 22c idle 37 underload.

Its 100% stable at the moment so I might try reducing voltage further.

Thing is I've no idea how to Over clock with AMD chips so I'm not sure what other voltages etc can help me push this thing further.

I want at least 3.5ghz.

you got CnQ on i believe.... that would explain the low vcore in windows, i just dont get why its so low under load?

 

[pantherx12]

I do, but I thought it just lowered clocks and voltages during idle ....

Will see what happens when I disable.

Cheers.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

I do, but I thought it just lowered clocks and voltages during idle ....

Will see what happens when I disable.

Cheers.

when OCing, CnQ can work, but it mustnt work, on many boards, its broken, or produces unwanted side effects. better use k10stat for that

 

[eidairaman1]

Gimme a quad with 1MB Cache for each core under the Athlon II X4 BE Moniker at 3.2GHz and you have yourself a deal.

 

[Flyordie]

I've seen reviewers with stock cooling hit 3.6 with these chips XD

Considering stock speed is 2.5 I think that's pretty good.

I'm running at 3.25ghz at the moment 1.285 volts in bios, 0.950 volts when I idle ( cpuz and AMD overdrive) and 0.987 volts underload.

Using a domino ALC to cool it at the moment ( although it is modded) 22c idle 37 underload.

Its 100% stable at the moment so I might try reducing voltage further.

Thing is I've no idea how to Over clock with AMD chips so I'm not sure what other voltages etc can help me push this thing further.

I want at least 3.5ghz.

Well, I am running my 2x Istanbuls @ 3.0Ghz and they are drawing an estimated 95-100W each... so... surely they will be 95W'rs @ 3.0 and lower and 125W @ 3.0 and higher...

 

[PP Mguire]

Great more regret for going i7.

Why? Your i7 will kick even the AMD Hexacores ass. No regrets with an i5/i7

 

[Munki]

Why? Your i7 will kick even the AMD Hexacores ass. No regrets with an i5/i7

Would you care to elaborate? Spec to Spec AMD > Intel, Price AMD > Intel. You cant tell me Intel i7 Extreme @ a grand for 3.33ghz with 2mg more cache is better than a $200 AMD Phenom II x4 @ a stock 3.4. Intel may allow a better OC'er but does it seriously justify $800 in this case? I think not.....

 

[Flyordie]

When I had my Istanbul ES's I was pushing them to 3.8Ghz on air cooling with only 1.475V... a custom setup from Dynatron that uses a vapor chamber over the CPU with 4 "joined" heatpipes tied directly into the Vapor Chamber, with 45 aluminum fins soldered to the heatpipes.

Gave me temps of 28C idle and 45-47C load after 12 hrs of 100% loading using LINPACK.

 

[btarunr]

Would you care to elaborate? Spec to Spec AMD > Intel, Price AMD > Intel. You cant tell me Intel i7 Extreme @ a grand for 3.33ghz with 2mg more cache is better than a $200 AMD Phenom II x4 @ a stock 3.4.

But a Core i5 750 at $199 is? Anyway that's a different topic.

 

[WarEagleAU]

Shoot, Ill stick with my 125W 955BE. I love this thing.

 

[PP Mguire]

Would you care to elaborate? Spec to Spec AMD > Intel, Price AMD > Intel. You cant tell me Intel i7 Extreme @ a grand for 3.33ghz with 2mg more cache is better than a $200 AMD Phenom II x4 @ a stock 3.4. Intel may allow a better OC'er but does it seriously justify $800 in this case? I think not.....

But a Core i5 750 at $199 is? Anyway that's a different topic.

Exactly. The price dosent justify it but stock to stock an i7 920 is better than a 955/965 period. You cant really argue with somebody who upgraded from camp AMD top dog to camp Intel mainstream and thinks its 5x better performance wise in anything. Yes, my 720be and 940be and 955be where all equally good for gaming but i do more with my PC than game. An i5 at 4ghz will deff stomp an equally clocked AMD cpu. Not trying to flamebate or anything, but as was said...no bulldozer? Nothing to see here folks.

 

[pantherx12]

Well, I am running my 2x Istanbuls @ 3.0Ghz and they are drawing an estimated 95-100W each... so... surely they will be 95W'rs @ 3.0 and lower and 125W @ 3.0 and higher...

Eh well I don't know how much power the processor is actually drawing

 

[eidairaman1]

Exactly. The price dosent justify it but stock to stock an i7 920 is better than a 955/965 period. You cant really argue with somebody who upgraded from camp AMD top dog to camp Intel mainstream and thinks its 5x better performance wise in anything. Yes, my 720be and 940be and 955be where all equally good for gaming but i do more with my PC than game. An i5 at 4ghz will deff stomp an equally clocked AMD cpu. Not trying to flamebate or anything, but as was said...no bulldozer? Nothing to see here folks.

Listen dude, this is about AMD, not Intel alright, lets keep it on track here people. Stop the Fanboy quotes now.

 

[newtekie1]

Would you care to elaborate? Spec to Spec AMD > Intel, Price AMD > Intel. You cant tell me Intel i7 Extreme @ a grand for 3.33ghz with 2mg more cache is better than a $200 AMD Phenom II x4 @ a stock 3.4. Intel may allow a better OC'er but does it seriously justify $800 in this case? I think not.....

Did we suddenly get transported back to the year 2000? Is this seriously an arguement that clock speed is what matters?

Spec to Spec, AMD looks better on paper.
If you go off those paper specs, yes AMD looks better price wise.

Problem is that performance is what matters, not paper specs. When performance is considered, AMD isn't really better than Intel, at least not at the level you are talking about. The i5 750 outperforms the 965BE. Of course you will probably also go on about how the Intel doesn't have an unlocked multiplier, but when the Intel also overclocking better than the 965BE, what does an unlocked multiplier matter?

Anything above $200 AMD can't even compete with, so comparing is impossible. The lower end stuff AMD has some great deals, sometimes even better than Intel, but anything above the low-mid performance sector AMD can't compete.

 

[PP Mguire]

Oh yes, a fanboy because ive had intel for TWO WEEKS.

Matter a fact, my sig still has AMD in it. Its called stating the facts. Software support isnt there for more than say, 3 cores. So releasing a hexacore to desktop is kind of a waste when it wont outperform whats already out and good. Id say MAYBE it might be something to talk about if its cheaper than an i5 750, but i doubt it will be. So here again, no bulldozer? Move along.

 

[eidairaman1]

Thats why Im waiting for the 4MB Athlon II X4 Quads, who needs L3???

Did we suddenly get transported back to the year 2000? Is this seriously an arguement that clock speed is what matters?

Spec to Spec, AMD looks better on paper.
If you go off those paper specs, yes AMD looks better price wise.

Problem is that performance is what matters, not paper specs. When performance is considered, AMD isn't really better than Intel, at least not at the level you are talking about. The i5 750 outperforms the 965BE. Of course you will probably also go on about how the Intel doesn't have an unlocked multiplier, but when the Intel also overclocking better than the 965BE, what does an unlocked multiplier matter?

Anything above $200 AMD can't even compete with, so comparing is impossible. The lower end stuff AMD has some great deals, sometimes even better than Intel, but anything above the low-mid performance sector AMD can't compete.

 

[PP Mguire]

Thats why Im waiting for the 4MB Athlon II X4 Quads, who needs L3???

If you wanna go that route then who needs 4 cores? According to other AMD user statements 3 is just fine. Who needs DDR3? DDR2 is just as fast on an AMD based rig.

 

[eidairaman1]

If you wanna go that route then who needs 4 cores? According to other AMD user statements 3 is just fine. Who needs DDR3? DDR2 is just as fast on an AMD based rig.

Well DDR2 is being phased out, L2 Cache is faster than L3 anyday.