NVIDIA Shuns Lucid Hydra

[1Kurgan1]

toilet paper is a very interesting kind of product ... no matter how good it is in theory, advertising or how cheap, environment friendly it is, if you dont like it you just dont like it and wont ever buy it again.

You sound like a man with experience here, so I will ask, what is a good alternative if I want to go "cold turkey" on the toilet paper?

 

[pantherx12]

Quite often advertisements for toilet paper use animals in their adds, the animals used are a hint as to what animal would replace that toilet paper best!

 

[1Kurgan1]

Quite often advertisements for toilet paper use animals in their adds, the animals used are a hint as to what animal would replace that toilet paper best!

So what your saying is using a bear instead of charmin to wipe with is a better choice? You first!

 

[dir_d]

Way off topic lol

 

[erocker]

Way off topic lol

Yes, sorry about what I started here. me--><--me Anyways, where are these Hydra boards?

 

[dir_d]

Yes, sorry about what I started here. me--><--me Anyways, where are these Hydra boards?

In QA...They will be here 1st quarter and i hope w1z gets to review one. ill hook up my old 8800GTS 640MB

 

[pr0n Inspector]

I like reading threads with little boys screaming "OMFG SO EVIL!!!11!", for no apparent reason.
It's kind of like watching re**rds refusing to eat supermarket chicken because "I WATCHED A HIPPIE DOCUMENTARY LAST NIGHT AND CHICKENS WERE TREATED LIKE SHIT IN FARMS ITS SO HORRIBLE".

 

[1Kurgan1]

I like reading threads with little boys screaming "OMFG SO EVIL!!!11!", for no apparent reason.
It's kind of like watching re**rds refusing to eat supermarket chicken because "I WATCHED A HIPPIE DOCUMENTARY LAST NIGHT AND CHICKENS WERE TREATED LIKE SHIT IN FARMS ITS SO HORRIBLE".

This is coming from the pr0n Inspector.... People are mostly right here, every company is out for a profit, but NV is just being slimy, if their isnt a buck in it for them at every corner, they will cry, slam their hands down, and try and change that with the best of their ability. Why the heck do they need to profit on mobo's supporting them?

 

[Easy Rhino]

This is coming from the pr0n Inspector.... People are mostly right here, every company is out for a profit, but NV is just being slimy, if their isnt a buck in it for them at every corner, they will cry, slam their hands down, and try and change that with the best of their ability. Why the heck do they need to profit on mobo's supporting them?

because mobo vendors are willing to pay them for it...

 

[erocker]

Nvidia would rather have their NF200 chip on motherboards than Hydra. That's why they are complaining. Unfortunately for them, NF200 only works with their cards, uses more power and produces more heat.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Nvidia would rather have their NF200 chip on motherboards than Hydra. That's why they are complaining. Unfortunately for them, NF200 only works with their cards, uses more power and produces more heat.

what i dont get is how people do not understand why nvidia would not be in favor of the hydra chip. it cuts into a major segment of their sales. are they just supposed to role over and lose hundreds of millions? the good thing, if this is executed properly, both amd and nvidia will start producing chipsets that support some sort of hybrid crossfire/sli tech. they will only do this if the hydra chip truly cuts into their sales and obviously they dont want that to happen until they are prepared for it.

 

[pr0n Inspector]

MSI has the industry’s first release-grade motherboard, the Big Bang Fuzion P55 that uses Hydra to power multiple GPUs, while also allowing users to mix and match various PCI-Express GPUs to suit their needs, something new particularly for NVIDIA users. Earlier expected to be announced around this time, MSI’s Big Bang Fuzion, as it is called by its maker, has been indefinitely delayed up to Q1 2010. Apparently to fill the void created by months of hype, MSI rushed in its cousin, a similar-looking motherboard, that uses the nForce 200 chip, to provide 3-way SLI support, called the Big Bang Trinergy P55, which will stay on as the company’s top offering for the P55 platform. One can only hope that Hydra doesn’t end up stillborn because of corporate strategy by much larger companies.

Source: Overclock3D.Net

Rushed? G9P55-DC is old.

 

[Arrakis9]

nvidia = fail

 

[erocker]

what i dont get is how people do not understand why nvidia would not be in favor of the hydra chip. it cuts into a major segment of their sales. are they just supposed to role over and lose hundreds of millions? the good thing, if this is executed properly, both amd and nvidia will start producing chipsets that support some sort of hybrid crossfire/sli tech. they will only do this if the hydra chip truly cuts into their sales and obviously they dont want that to happen until they are prepared for it.

I think people understand that. Unfortunately Nvidia is doing this:

Perhaps fearing a loss of revenue, NVIDIA is working on its drivers to ensure that its GeForce GPUs don’t work on platforms that use Hydra.

Instead of trying to compete with the competition with innovation, Nvidia is taking a step backwards to protect whatever chipset product they have left. I don't think this will fare well for Nvidia. I know if I were a motherboard manufacterer, I'd be raising my giant middle finger to Nvidia right about now. Not to mention the actual end user/enthusiast who would love to use Nvidia cards on a Hydra system.

 

[dir_d]

Instead of trying to compete with the competition with innovation, Nvidia is taking a step backwards to protect whatever chipset product they have left. I don't think this will fare well for Nvidia. I know if I were a motherboard manufacterer, I'd be raising my giant middle finger to Nvidia right about now. Not to mention the actual end user/enthusiast who would love to use Nvidia cards on a Hydra system.

It will get cracked eventually just like SLi and Physx...Its sad that they have to put up a fight like this but honestly they cant stop the consumers if they want something unless they do it on the hardware side.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I think people understand that. Unfortunately Nvidia is doing this:



Instead of trying to compete with the competition with innovation, Nvidia is taking a step backwards to protect whatever chipset product they have left. I don't think this will fare well for Nvidia. I know if I were a motherboard manufacterer, I'd be raising my giant middle finger to Nvidia right about now. Not to mention the actual end user/enthusiast who would love to use Nvidia cards on a Hydra system.

of course they will do this. hydra is competition.

 

[inferKNOX]

What I really don't get is why some people jump to defend any company if they claim impartiality.
People are unhappy and they deserve a chance to rant about it!
Why is it that someone always jumps up to shut everyone up for... well no reason really other than to be the 'defendants' self proclaimed lawyers. Just to say, "Oh, and by the way, I'm not a fanboy, I use <fill in the competing co.'s product here> too."
What are you trying to hold people down for?
If they did something people hate, they aught to be called on it without anyone back-chatting the complaints other than they themselves or those under their employ. :shadedshu

 

[erocker]

of course they will do this. hydra is competition.

Well, since Nvidia chipsets are fading away I'm hoping motherboard manufacturers just stop using Nvidia chipsets all together. Afterall whats in it for them then? This is Nvidia forcing motherboard manufacturers to buy their product so another product will work with it. Pretty lousy practice if you ask me, and I hope it isn't tolerated much further. As a consumer, I have no idea why another consumer would defend it. I prefer variety over whatever the hell Nvidia is doing.

 

[Easy Rhino]

Well, since Nvidia chipsets are fading away I'm hoping motherboard manufacturers just stop using Nvidia chipsets all together. Afterall whats in it for them then? This is Nvidia forcing motherboard manufacturers to buy their product so another product will work with it. Pretty lousy practice if you ask me.

well if nvidia mobo chipsets are going away then why are people complaining? this is only temporary.

 

[erocker]

well if nvidia mobo chipsets are going away then why are people complaining? this is only temporary.

Because it's prolonging the temporary and offering less choice on hardware configurations to the consumer. Tell me, would you rather have multiple options on what you can put on your motherboard, or be limited and pay a premium for it since motherboard manufacturers pass the cost of Nvidia's chip and licensing to the consumer?

 

[Easy Rhino]

Because it's prolonging the temporary and offering less choice on hardware configurations to the consumer. Tell me, would you rather have multiple options on what you can put on your motherboard, or be limited?

of course as a consumer i would want multiple options. but i dont run nvidia so i cant tell them what to do. nor do i know what they have going on in the background with business deals they have working with other vendors. so i think we rush to judgement by saying nvidia is acting poorly. what i will do is support the chipset that works the best for me.

 

[erocker]

what i will do is support the chipset that works the best for me.

...and unfortunately through what Nvidia is essentially doing, the best possible chipset that may work for us won't work.

 

[Solaris17]

...and unfortunately through what Nvidia is essentially doing, the best possible chipset that may work for us won't work.

it will be cracked dont worry.

 

[Easy Rhino]

...and unfortunately through what Nvidia is essentially doing, the best possible chipset that may work for us won't work.

that is normal. a lot of times the best innovations dont actually make it to market because of the business environment.

 

[erocker]

Indeed. On that note, I'm not worrying since I won't be buying anything Nvidia anytime soon due to these and prior business practices. It's a shame too, I really liked my GTX260, but I'll manage.