Dual Core Intel Core i3, Core i5 Processors Start Getting Listed

[pjladyfox]

All Clarkdale CPUs have the IGP. Some have their IGP core speed at 750 MHz, while others at 900 MHz. There's a Pentium Dual Core model priced under $90 too, which has a slower IGP.

Okay, that makes a bit more sense 'tho it would have been nice if they had made the ones with a integrated GPU it's own separate "i" designation rather than lumping it under the i5-series especially since looks like they may have other i5 CPU's like the i5-750 out there that do not have the GPU in them. But, then again, they could have done it that way to separate them into their own performance category but that's kind of silly since they have it setup like this:

Lynnfield Core i5-7xx, 4 cores, LGA-1156, no Integrated GPU

Clarkdale Core i3-5xx, 2 cores, LGA-1156, 733 MHz Integrated GPU
Clarkdale Core i5-6xx, 2 cores, LGA-1156, 733 MHz Integrated GPU

Arrandale Core i5-4xxM, 2 cores, laptop µPGA-989, Integrated GPU
Arrandale Core i5-5xxM, 2 cores, laptop µPGA-989, Integrated GPU

I mean, why not lump all of the Clarkdale's under the i3-series and differentiate them based upon other factors especially since they all run the same amount of L2/L3 cache and cores? At least the Pentum Dual Core makes sense by giving it a Gxxxx classification.

And that Core i5-661 is an oddball for sure since it's the only Clarkdale that I could find that runs the IGP at 900 MHz rather than 733 MHz.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

TDP includes the integrated GPU so idk why you guys are complaining. these are far less than any other cpu+gpu combo with similar performance.

Doh! I forgot about the integrated north bridge. That considered, yes, the wattage is quite low for a desktop.

I wouldn't say they make a massive difference in games, but they do make a difference - well, 3+ cores makes a difference compared to dual and single core.

Thanks to all the Xbox 360 ports to PC. Some games (like Saints Row 2) are barely playable with less than three cores.

How much higher did are your expectations? 4.0Ghz+? Should we see 10Ghz San Andreas' aka "Pentium" within 2-3 years?

I do want to see a 4 GHz CPU out of Intel or AMD. Intel got really close (3.8 GHz) with Pentium 4 and gave up on it (as they should have) before reaching the 4 GHz mark. Westmere is in a position to reach, and exceed 4 GHz but only if AMD puts the pressure on. Netburst proved that 10 GHz on the current manufacturering process is unreasonable.

Anyone happen to know what the real performance is on these versus the quads out there? How will these run compared to things like the PII 965, or even the i5 750? I think once the price drops on these things they will sell like hotcakes, they look to be a lot of fun.

Someone post an Engineering Sample, Sandra benchmark. It scaled almost perfectly in the benchmark from 2.8 GHz quad-core to 2.8 GHz hexacore (50% faster).

 

[OnBoard]

So any news about 32nm Quad-core? 32nm hexa-core is coming as i9, surely there will be a mainstream version of that Core i7-890 or something. Or maybe they'll make it Core i5-720.

edit: not until 2011 according to this http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/mbrzostek/idf2009/4/roadmap_v1_k.png

Then again if these 4 thread things do as well as s775 Quads, I'd have no real need for a Quad-core. Cool, cheap and almost as good as hot&expensive quads, yeah, I could go for that

 

[btarunr]

Okay, that makes a bit more sense 'tho it would have been nice if they had made the ones with a integrated GPU it's own separate "i" designation rather than lumping it under the i5-series especially since looks like they may have other i5 CPU's like the i5-750 out there that do not have the GPU in them. But, then again, they could have done it that way to separate them into their own performance category but that's kind of silly since they have it setup like this:

Lynnfield Core i5-7xx, 4 cores, LGA-1156, no Integrated GPU

Clarkdale Core i3-5xx, 2 cores, LGA-1156, 733 MHz Integrated GPU
Clarkdale Core i5-6xx, 2 cores, LGA-1156, 733 MHz Integrated GPU

Arrandale Core i5-4xxM, 2 cores, laptop µPGA-989, Integrated GPU
Arrandale Core i5-5xxM, 2 cores, laptop µPGA-989, Integrated GPU

I mean, why not lump all of the Clarkdale's under the i3-series and differentiate them based upon other factors especially since they all run the same amount of L2/L3 cache and cores? At least the Pentum Dual Core makes sense by giving it a Gxxxx classification.

And that Core i5-661 is an oddball for sure since it's the only Clarkdale that I could find that runs the IGP at 900 MHz rather than 733 MHz.

You're coming across the same argument of why Intel couldn't lump all LGA-1156 "Lynnfield" processors into i5. You'll notice how the dual-core i5 models come under the 600 series, while quad-core ones are 700 series. What differentiates Core i3 dual-core chips from Core i5 is the Turbo Mode. Since there are no Clarkdale chips without an IGP, it doesn't matter if it doesn't have a Gxxxx nomenclature.

 

[Hayder_Master]

for me i ever think get dual core cpu when i pay a huge of money for p55 and ddr3 memory

 

[Laurijan]

Interesting that they all have HT at this price point...

 

[OnBoard]

Interesting that they all have HT at this price point...

Well Fudzilla is saying that i3 doesn't have:
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stor...al News/intel_corei3_corei5_january_large.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16540/1/

Would sort of make more sense, but hard to know what's right. Prices are also a lot different, maybe they are missing VAT.