AMD Cedar Reference Design Board Pictured

Fourstaff · Jan 13, 2010

^ I read that up on wiki, thanks anyway.

GSG-9 · Jan 13, 2010

mtosev said:
64bit > performance killer. meh. too bad. they cude have used 128bit.

I'm assuming its a cheaper process and its going to fit in the performance gap they want with the 64bit as is.

Flyordie · Jan 13, 2010

btarunr said:
Intel names its chips after American villages, while AMD's Evergreen chips are named after trees?

Cedar, Cypress, Redwood, Juniper...they're all trees, which are "evergreen" in nature.

All of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars".

GSG-9 · Jan 13, 2010

Flyordie said:
All of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars".

as long as 'porn' is not thrown in there first. Then we would have some tacky videocards trying to pay there way through med school...

cauby · Jan 13, 2010

Flyordie said:
All of their names come from trees of the Cypress family.

The next gen should be "stars".

LOL,like the ones Mario collects or,you know,stars,like Brad Pitt ,Angelina Jolie and others??? :laugh:

[H]@RD5TUFF · Jan 13, 2010

Cool beans, but where is my damn 56xx's ?

HD4870 · Jan 13, 2010

HD5450 specs and Small review done by me :

http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153600

Flyordie · Jan 13, 2010

HD4870 said:
HD5450 specs and Small review done by me :

http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153600

hmm... 80 SPs.. better than 40 I guess.
I would have expected something like 120 SP.

alwayssts · Jan 14, 2010

First of all, thanks for the Cedar review/pictures AHW! :toast:

Second of all, 5500 is Redwood with GDDR3. It's mobility 5730/5650, but I expect them to be HD5570/5550 on the desktop. There were reports a couple weeks back about a 5570 with exactly Mobility 5730 spec, and the parts rumored to be coming are 5570 and 5550, both with Redwood-PRO monikers, so that makes the most sense. 5570 will have the same clock speed as 5650 with half the bandwidth because of GDDR3.

Basically, look at the mobility series and subtract 100, since Juniper (Desktop HD5700) replaces Cypress as the 5800 series in the Mobility lineup. Cedar/Park are 5400 series on both. (70-GDDR5 and 750mhz, 50-GDDR3 and 675mhz, 30-GDDR3 and 550mhz).

At any rate, AMD really blew their load with the mobility launch since you can extrapolate the desktop counterparts., but that doesn't make the products any less cool.

At least we got early specs and pics of the chips, without having to wait til launch.

Redwood/Madison
Desktop HD5600/HD5500/Mobility HD5700/5650

Cedar/Park
5400 series

eidairaman1 · Jan 14, 2010

Imsochobo said:
Nope dont think so

its slower than any AMD graphicscard from the 3 series, although memory bandwidth is lower on 3450> 33xx 32xx 24xx 23xx 22xx ...

When will system memory ever be fast ? (for igp's)

Core I7 however have a little potential, trichannel, 28 gb/sec = a 7600 GT max OC.

im saying power useage constitutes the small cooler, to me id rather have a sink that takes up less space in a HTPC than something that prevents working on it. The fan on the Radeon 9700 Pro was quiet.

Zubasa · Jan 14, 2010

HD4870 said:
HD5450 specs and Small review done by me :

http://www.arabhardware.net/forum/showthread.php?t=153600

Does this thing really have 8 ROPs or is it a GPU-Z bug? :eek:

Kamen · Jan 14, 2010

[H]@RD5TUFF said:
Cool beans, but where is my damn 56xx's ?

dude all the 5670 specs are on amd`s website http://www.amd.com/us/products/desk.../Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-specifications.aspx

Imsochobo · Jan 14, 2010

newtekie1 said:
What are we talking here? Sub-8600GT performance from the specs? Those could barely handle DX10...forget about running anything DX11 on these cards.

I'm very interested in the power consumption number though, these things should be killer for HTPC setups.

It should perform like a HD 2600 XT ++
if it has a GDDR5 @ 64 bit memory bus you get 23 gb/sec

which is rather fast for such a low end card!

Xajel · Jan 14, 2010

Just to note for the news, the guy didn't manage to get pictures, he took the pictures, to be more precise he has the card in his hands and did some benchies ( he already posted the link in another comment by him )

Thanks mena

Mussels · Jan 14, 2010

newtekie1 said:
What are we talking here? Sub-8600GT performance from the specs? Those could barely handle DX10...forget about running anything DX11 on these cards.

I'm very interested in the power consumption number though, these things should be killer for HTPC setups.

the DDR3 one has me worried, but the DDR5 model sounds ok.

And yeah, it seems like it could be a high end HTPC card - low profile, small, low heat (could work well passive) - and its got VGA, DVI, displayport, and via DVI-HDMI, HDMI. Since its ATI, we also know its gunna have audio on the HDMI and displayport as well.

edit: hell, this thing could do non-gaming eyefinity as well - how many programmers/codemonkies would love cheap triple monitor support?

newtekie1 · Jan 14, 2010

Mussels said:
the DDR3 one has me worried, but the DDR5 model sounds ok.

And yeah, it seems like it could be a high end HTPC card - low profile, small, low heat (could work well passive) - and its got VGA, DVI, displayport, and via DVI-HDMI, HDMI. Since its ATI, we also know its gunna have audio on the HDMI and displayport as well.

edit: hell, this thing could do non-gaming eyefinity as well - how many programmers/codemonkies would love cheap triple monitor support?

The memory bandwidth is just one aspect, and I'm not really concerned with it as you mentioned with the GDDR5, I'm more concerned with the lower stream processor count, and likely low ROP count.

Xajel said:
Just to note for the news, the guy didn't manage to get pictures, he took the pictures, to be more precise he has the card in his hands and did some benchies ( he already posted the link in another comment by him )

Thanks mena

Yes, in a language most of us here don't speak, with pictures that don't work...

7mm · Jan 14, 2010

btarunr said:
Intel names its chips after American villages, while AMD's Evergreen chips are named after trees?
Cedar, Cypress, Redwood, Juniper...they're all trees, which are "evergreen" in nature.

Ohh..., thanks for that Info brother.

zwawy · Jan 15, 2010

newtekie1 said:
Yes, in a language most of us here don't speak, with pictures that don't work...

* Language is Arabic, dear.

* Pictures was not working because TPU alert us that the card is currently under NDA and now we deleted the entire thread.

Thank you for your understanding.

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