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MSI HD 5870 Lightning disassembled

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As we previously reported, MSI is working on a Lightning Edition of the ATI Radeon HD 5870. The card will be designed with overclockers in mind and comes with two 8-pin PCI-Express power connectors for maximum power delivery. It also has easily accessible measuring points for the GPU voltages - a voltmodder's dream. Today we received several new pictures from an anonymous source in Taiwan that shows the card in all its glory.



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Is it twelve dual phase analog. ?

Anyways, Sweet!, they should have upped the caps, theese are a simple mod in most cases that can decrease the rippel by a conciderable amount!

Other words for it is power stability.
 

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Any news about the length of this card ... ??? ...

EDIT : 2 x 8-pin ... hmm .... why would it need so much power just because its clocked at 1000mhz ... i've seen people achieve those clocks with reference cards ...
 
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Any news about the length of this card ... ??? ...



Its shorter then normal, hence being wider then normal.
 
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MSI should add free digital multimeter to the BOX with this beauty.
 
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wow 2x8pin, damnnnnnnnn. . . . . . . . that looks like a awesome card and I wonder how much more ocing potential it has

lol maybe amd should look at something similar to this for the reference 5890 design and give it uber clocks.
 
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Wow, this looks pretty bawls!
Awaiting on price is the next step for me.
 

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I had a Déjà vu (MSI Lightning GTX 275)

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_275_N275GTX_Lightning/images/front.jpg
 
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Why do they mount the power connecters that way?
 
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Why do they mount the power connecters that way?


So people with small cases can fit the cards easier.

I prefer them rear facing myself, infact I'd prefer them rear facing and on the other side of the PCB so close to the mobo as possible.
 
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So people with small cases can fit the cards easier..

But won't it also make the card even wider? For example in my case, I couldn't mount a side fan if my connectors were facing that way.

I prefer them rear facing myself, infact I'd prefer them rear facing and on the other side of the PCB so close to the mobo as possible.

I agree. On my 4850's the connectors are on the outside of the card so I have to run the power out there.
 

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So people with small cases can fit the cards easier.

I prefer them rear facing myself, infact I'd prefer them rear facing and on the other side of the PCB so close to the mobo as possible.

If it's as long as GT200 cards it's a must to have them up. Rear near mobo would be great though for cable hiding, though I like the ease of unplugging the power cords when on top.
 
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great looking card
 
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If it's as long as GT200 cards it's a must to have them up. Rear near mobo would be great though for cable hiding, though I like the ease of unplugging the power cords when on top.



See I just pull the card from the slot first, that way the cables are easy to unplug regardless of where they are.

Same for putting the card in.

Cables in first follow by plugging the card into the mobo.
 
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this thing has one sweet power circuitry delivery system... i bet its going to be alot more expensive than the current lineup but THAT much better cant wait to see a full review on one
 

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See I just pull the card from the slot first, that way the cables are easy to unplug regardless of where they are.

Same for putting the card in. Cables in first follow by plugging the card into the mobo.

Yeah in that case it's easy. In my previous case I had PCI-E power cables attached to my case side and now they go somewhere below. Card won't come out with cables in place :)

Anyhow, nice looking card, will surely keep tinkerers happy.
 
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Would be great if it didn't take 2 x 8 pin.
 

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I hope their custom cooling design is up to the task of all the voltage people will be throwing at it!
 
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cant wait till w1zz reviews this one
 

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Why are people saything this and that about the 2x8 pins people.........

HAVE YOU SEEN THE PHASES ON THE CARD, They want users to have the MAXIUMUM AMOUNT OF POWER to be able to stream right to the gpu..... Its not for just showing off, its for getting the 1.5Ghz core with double the regular voltage people....

When kingpin gets the sucker does a little cap mods, he will do something insane with the card, and it helps to have 2x8 pins on that card for maxiumum power transfer.

So lets not just go cry babying and putting negatives on the 2x 8pins on the card, This card was specifically maid for overclocking, And if you just want to only have a 1 Ghz HD 5870 then go purchase other offerings. But if you want some insane speeds, the best quality, the best power thruput, and are trying to get a benchmark world record, then just buy MSi's offering of a extremely pimped out HD 5870.


**** Basicly***** To sum it up, this isnt a card the average user and video card overclocker would even buy, they might, but they wont push massive volts and they wont use extreme cooling like fully water or up. But i want to see in the right rig how far this HD 5870 can go ;D
 

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Wonder what the cooler for it looks like...
 
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