ASUS Designing Dual-HD 5870 Graphics Accelerator?

[majestic12]

maybe 3 pci-e plugs 3 * 8 pin

I'm anxious to see how many plugs it would take power this thing. The 3 plugs sound realistic -especially for a card that will cost a fortune.

 

[Weer]

This makes for a different product because: It runs at HD 5870's speeds out of the box, will have big headroom, probably will have 2 GB /GPU memory (and the memory bandwidth to make use of it), and who knows, Eyefinity6 output. There still are many design changes ASUS can use to make this different and better from the HD 5970. Since it will be the fastest card in existence, it will have a high price. Just like Mars did.

The 5970 can run at 5870 speeds easily. It's just underclocked, allowing for more headroom percentage-wise.
Eyefinity 6 is an absolutely RIDICULOUS assumption to be making. It is virtually impossible.
In which case, all it will have is 2GB. Which means it will have as much extra worth as the 1.7G GTX 275's.

Watch your reputation, BT.

 

[wolf]

I think this card could be achieved with existing 5970's with a few quick tweaks and recommendations;

-Boost the stock fan profile to make it quite a bit more aggressive, possibly change the cooling solution.
-clock the gpu's and memory to 5870 speeds and use 5870 voltages
-make a list of power supplies that can safely provide enough power while eclipsing the 300w mark OR add another 6 pin and call it a day.

2gb per gpu I'd like to see and can probably be done with relative ease, just to cement it being the worlds fastest, don't want that card running out of Vram anytime soon

 

[Weer]

I think this card could be achieved with existing 5970's with a few quick tweaks and recommendations;

-Boost the stock fan profile to make it quite a bit more aggressive, possibly change the cooling solution.
-clock the gpu's and memory to 5870 speeds and use 5870 voltages
-make a list of power supplies that can safely provide enough power while eclipsing the 300w mark OR add another 6 pin and call it a day.

2gb per gpu I'd like to see and can probably be done with relative ease, just to cement it being the worlds fastest, don't want that card running out of Vram anytime soon

There. That is exactly what I am saying. But try telling that to BT.

 

[wolf]

There. That is exactly what I am saying. But try telling that to BT.

He's entitled to his opinion here just like anyone else, and being the news editor he has seen his fare share of card releases, so I take his opinion on board with due consideration, every time.

Even though what I stated (I think) could quite easily be done (perhaps even simply with a RBE bios mod), ASUS being ASUS will probably make this card completely non-reference and completely insane.

If it's even made.

 

[btarunr]

More information from XS:

Here are some more details of card:

Asus ROG ARES

• Two Cypress GPUs (3200 Stream processors)
• Target performance > 2 x 5870 in CF
• 4 GB GDDR5
• Three PCIe power connectors (8 + 8 + 6-pin)
• Massive 100 % copper heatsink
• VGA will require 2,5 slots from motherboard
• PCB is taller than usual, almost square
• Limited availability but no numbering on cards
• Est. suggested retail price similar to MARS

Source: Muropaketti (Finnish)

 

[btarunr]

The 5970 can run at 5870 speeds easily. It's just underclocked, allowing for more headroom percentage-wise.

Like Sampsa said, it gives performance of two HD 5870s out of the box, plus offers overclocking headroom over what an HD 5970 can manage.

Eyefinity 6 is an absolutely RIDICULOUS assumption to be making.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what Eyefinity6 is, that you find it a ridiculous assumption. It's six mini-DP connectors.

It is virtually impossible.

Not only is it possible, but also implemented:

In which case, all it will have is 2GB. Which means it will have as much extra worth as the 1.7G GTX 275's.

So what? There's 4 GB of memory on the card (2x 2GB), two GPUs, and Eyefinity can take advantage of multi-GPU since Catalyst 9.12.

Watch your reputation, BT.

Watch your TPU membership, Weer. If you want to make points, make them without such comments.

 

[Weer]

Like Sampsa said, it gives performance of two HD 5870s out of the box, plus offers overclocking headroom over what an HD 5970 can manage.

Overclocking headroom? That's pathetic, is all I'm saying, for a 'MARS' product.
An overclocked 5970 gives you the performance of two 5870's out of the box.
This product is meaningless, aside form the RAM.

I'm pretty sure you don't know what Eyefinity6 is, that you find it a ridiculous assumption. It's six mini-DP connectors.

Well, I stand corrected. Interesting.
It just simple doesn't make sense in regards to bandwidth transferred from the PCIe slot and the card itself. If it were, the 5870 would have triple DVI, and better support for monitors on its HDMI/DisplayPort outputs.

Not only is it possible, but also implemented:

http://www.nordichardware.com/image3.php?id=9520

Yes, yes, illuminating.
Not that it wouldn't cost another 200$ in Mini-DP to DVI/HDMI converters.

So what? There's 4 GB of memory on the card (2x 2GB), two GPUs, and Eyefinity can take advantage of multi-GPU since Catalyst 9.12.

You are threatening the entire equilibrium of the PC graphics market, BT.
If Eyefinity6 only exists on 'MARS' then it is virtually extinct.

You simply don't understand my simple point.
Yes, it is a great card. It has two GPUs, 4GB of RAM, a red plastic mesh on its cooler.. but that can be done by ANY manufacturer.. it is NOT supposed to be a 'MARS' top-of-the-line product that only millionaires can afford.

Watch your TPU membership, Weer. If you want to make points, make them without such comments.

My points are absolute and infinite. They are more important than anything, and you agree.
My TPU! membership.. that is something that no one can take away from me. I have been here for 5 years.. I know everyone here, except they don't recognize me anymore.. TPU has my heart and I have its heart.. and that is something that can never be taken away from me. So, for someone like you, to think so highly of yourself while being such an awful jerk.. you are the opposite of TPU, and you are what is wrong with it.
Then again, seeing W1z's thank down there.. oh, how TPU has fallen. Where have all the Zekherminators gone, indeed.

 

[W1zzard]

I know everyone here, except they don't recognize me anymore..

oh dont worry, i remember you (track). i thought you might learn to behave over the years, apparently not.
who do you think changed your banned account's email address to "unused_******z44@walla.co.il", so you could use it to register a new account here?

 

[wolf]

.. it is NOT supposed to be a 'MARS' top-of-the-line product that only millionaires can afford.

Personally I'm glad they are going the extra mile unlike a copout like for example the Sapphire 5970 OC model, yay for 10mhz core/memory speed increase.

That has to be the lowest OC by % on a card I've seen to date, whereas this Ares card should completely stomp a stock 5970, just like two 5870's do.

 

[btarunr]

Overclocking headroom? That's pathetic, is all I'm saying, for a 'MARS' product.
An overclocked 5970 gives you the performance of two 5870's out of the box.
This product is meaningless, aside form the RAM.

And that's what you fail to see, this is intended to offer performance beyond what an overclocked 5970 does, because it can overclock further. Think record-setting performance, which its target buyers crave for.

It just simple doesn't make sense in regards to bandwidth transferred from the PCIe slot and the card itself. If it were, the 5870 would have triple DVI, and better support for monitors on its HDMI/DisplayPort outputs.

Bandwidth is a non-issue. An HD 5870 doesn't take any significant bandwidth hit even with PCI-E 2.0 x4. We did a review on that.

Not that it wouldn't cost another 200$ in Mini-DP to DVI/HDMI converters.

All dongles are in the box (at least as far as HD 5870 Eyefinity6 is concerned, so it will be the same for this)

You are threatening the entire equilibrium of the PC graphics market, BT.
If Eyefinity6 only exists on 'MARS' then it is virtually extinct.

No, Eyefinity6 can be done on any GPU HD 5700 series and above. They all have the same display controllers on-die.

Yes, it is a great card. It has two GPUs, 4GB of RAM, a red plastic mesh on its cooler.but that can be done by ANY manufacturer.. it is NOT supposed to be a 'MARS' top-of-the-line product that only millionaires can afford.

So? Nothing is stopping that "ANY manufacturer" from going ahead and making it. Unlike NVIDIA, AMD has no restrictions on custom HD 5970. Till then ASUS will cash in, and will sell those 2000-odd pieces.

My points are absolute and infinite. They are more important than anything, and you agree.
My TPU! membership.. that is something that no one can take away from me. I have been here for 5 years.. I know everyone here, except they don't recognize me anymore.. TPU has my heart and I have its heart.. and that is something that can never be taken away from me. So, for someone like you, to think so highly of yourself while being such an awful jerk.. you are the opposite of TPU, and you are what is wrong with it.
Then again, seeing W1z's thank down there.. oh, how TPU has fallen. Where have all the Zekherminators gone, indeed.

ZOMG soo true. TPU is too inferior for people supremely intelligent as you. We don't deserve you anymore. Good bye.

 

[HossHuge]

If I remember correctly they only made 1000 Mars GPU's and that was awhile ago but you can still buy them here in Taiwan. I thought they were/are a flop (sales wise). What makes them think that they can sell these at a much higher price than a 5970? IMO limited stuff like this doesn't fly in the computer world cause something faster will always come about.

 

[mdm-adph]

Not all that interesting to me.
Now if Asus wanted to bet the bank and put 4 x Cypress chips on a single card, I would pay much more attention.

I'd even accept a dual-PCB design if they'd do something wild like that.

That thing would have 3 8-pin connectors and sound like a 787, but still -- it'll finally make up for the quad-GPU Voodoo5 never getting to market.

 

[EarlZ]

That is stupid. The GTX 295 was inferior to the MARS in a few ways, such as memory bus and capacity. The 5970 simply has lower clocks, which is meaningless because it can be overclocked to 1Ghz on stock.

Id love to see a 5970 do 1Ghz oc on "STOCK"

 

[cbupdd]

Only 1000usd! Grab one, and make a lottery here

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10644.html
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10642.html

 

[Cratzky]

Its ASSUS, you'll have to pay out of ur ass

+1
this made my day

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Three PCIe power connectors (8 + 8 + 6-pin)

so i was (almost) right

 

[Hayder_Master]

can they do custom 5970 , 2X5970=4 GPU=4G ram

 

[eidairaman1]

5970 is already taken by the 5850x2

 

[a_ump]

bummer...i kinda liked weer. forsure disrespect thou.

i'm just curious how good and more efficient the cooler will be. i hope the pic in those links isn't what the cooler is gonna look like, i was hoping for a badass look.