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Intel Talks about DDR3

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Charles Chang, Intel's supplier Manager, said during IDF Fall 06 that the company has received DDR3 samples from different manufacturers, and they are working fine on Intel Bearlake based platform. DDR3 is scheduled for mass production in Q107. However, Chalres Chang said the company estimates that DDR3 would become main technology in 2009. According to information from Samsung Electronics Corporation, DDR3 is going to be 25% faster than DDR2 modules. DDR3 will also double the bandwidth over DDR2.

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They need to skip DDR-3 and go DDR-4
 

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If they wouldn't switch to DDR2, and stick with good old DDR, then it would be way faster. Just look at AM2, thats nothing more than s939 with DDR2 support. But AM2 is just trash, even slower than s939. But off course, customers need 1337 more digits, they need 6200TC with 512MB ram, and other useless trash. Its just useless way how to spend our money.
 
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Who the HELL has CL6 DDR2-800 RAM???
 

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my DDR2 800 is CL3, why intel dont compare with CL3?
 
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If they wouldn't switch to DDR2, and stick with good old DDR, then it would be way faster. Just look at AM2, thats nothing more than s939 with DDR2 support. But AM2 is just trash, even slower than s939. But off course, customers need 1337 more digits, they need 6200TC with 512MB ram, and other useless trash. Its just useless way how to spend our money.

Believe it or not, the bandwidth is... there.. ish...

However, a 25% speed increase in performance with a 100% clock speed isnt exactly impressive. :banghead:

Better than DDR2 atleast. DDR3 is what DDR2 should have been. :toast:
 

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Anyone know of a Core2 mainboard with DDR slots? I got a hell of a lot of top Corsair DDR and I really dont see the reason to can it for DDR2 which isn't any faster.
 

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via has some (ecs boards) and the intel 865 series as well but they have agp to
 
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via has some (ecs boards) and the intel 865 series as well but they have agp to

Yep they sure do :) I'm really interested in seeing what the differences are with DDR Vs DDR2 with these...

Anyone wanna loan me a core 2 duo to give it a shot? :D
 

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yep, AM2 sure is a waste of time, just like 939 was :rolleyes:
 

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well will intel even take advantage of this high ram?
even right now we only really need ddr667 or ddr800 if u were conroe.
 
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lol's people theyt said a 25% latency improvement not a 25% performance improvement, read the article.

ddr3 will have much more than a 25% improvement over ddr2 for one thing it hase double the bandwidth as well as it being quad channeled.

I mean hello have you paid any attention to the memory modules on your gpus? or have you all been twidling your thumbs?

ddr4 hasn't even been released for gpu's yet and with all memory it has to first pass through the gpu sector before hitting the system mem sector.

overall ddr3 will be leaps and bounds ahead of ddr2, as ddr2 clock for clock still can't match ddr performance (take a 533 MHZ 1gb set of ddr2 and compare it to a 533 pair of ddr the ddr will win every time and not just bya ltille by up to 20%) lol

ddr2 was short lived in the gpu world due to it's low performance per clock (only 2 ati cards used it actually 9800 pro 256 and the 9800xt) one ddr3 came out, they found they didn't have to sacrifice performance to keep up with the markets clock speed demands.

once ddr3 is out I'll definetly be buying a set and probably a quad core amd as well.
 

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I don't know what is funnier, the comment that CAS 6 ram is good or that S939 was no good. Wow, another thread full of speculation and opinions surrounded by no facts and proof. I guess noone has taken the time to read any of the benchmarks anywhere on the web about bandwidth and memory with higher bus speeds. DDR cannot run fast enough to keep up to DDR2 at all. THe latest crop of DDR2 is making DDR look stupid, and DDR3 will just be that much better. DDR2 doesn't have to match DDR performance since it can outclock it by a large margain and the bandwidth takes over for increased speed and versitility.
 
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lol's people theyt said a 25% latency improvement not a 25% performance improvement, read the article.

ddr3 will have much more than a 25% improvement over ddr2 for one thing it hase double the bandwidth as well as it being quad channeled.

Yeah, but you have to look past the marketing there bud. If it was more than a 25% performance difference, who then &@%^@ cares about latency? You market that. Not the smaller latency improvements.

Performance is obviously struggling... either due to latency, or the CPU's just cant show any differences.

Don't just read the article, read between the marketing FUD.

I don't know what is funnier, the comment that CAS 6 ram is good or that S939 was no good. Wow, another thread full of speculation and opinions surrounded by no facts and proof.

QFT.
 

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blah blah. its not even out yet to mature. i only see major improvements from now till 08'. by then, the real show down for performance between quads n ddr3 LL (cors/ocz). besides that its 128-bit = Dual Channel 256-bit. besides that, will be better then what we got now....
 
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