• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

NVIDIA Preparing First Fermi-Derivative Performance GPU, GF104

Joined
Feb 19, 2009
Messages
1,162 (0.20/day)
Location
I live in Norway
Processor R9 5800x3d | R7 3900X | 4800H | 2x Xeon gold 6142
Motherboard Asrock X570M | AB350M Pro 4 | Asus Tuf A15
Cooling Air | Air | duh laptop
Memory 64gb G.skill SniperX @3600 CL16 | 128gb | 32GB | 192gb
Video Card(s) RTX 4080 |Quadro P5000 | RTX2060M
Storage Many drives
Display(s) AW3423dwf.
Case Jonsbo D41
Power Supply Corsair RM850x
Mouse g502 Lightspeed
Keyboard G913 tkl
Software win11, proxmox
HAHA, no worries bro. ;)

How do you know the production costs already?

GF100 DIE.

50% or maybe less, i dunno how much the 2x float takes of space. but i reccon its roughly around 270-330 nm.

Ati has 334 NM for 5870.

GTX285 has ~484

Estimate suggests its a fairly high production cost for the performance.

The question will remain, is the GPGPU stuff that nvidia taunts the big deal, or wont it be much use for us.

Surely, they HAVE to do something, cause they are getting well, smashed between AMD and Intel, both making ONdie NB, SB, GPU.
Making Nvidia chipset with IGP obsolute!
Nvidia chipsets all in all.

Thats huuuge incomes, immagine, Only high end laptops would have nvidia, thats just about 20% ? ouch...
Nvidia's GPGPU (Tesla) really is a great income source!

Will it affect us costumers, design cost for two seperate designs really isnt worth it either.(archs)

Really no hard fact on the die size, estimates, but well, atleast 260mm^2. unless nvidia has a magic way to shrink the size of a cuda core.
 
Joined
Apr 21, 2008
Messages
5,250 (0.87/day)
Location
IRAQ-Baghdad
System Name MASTER
Processor Core i7 3930k run at 4.4ghz
Motherboard Asus Rampage IV extreme
Cooling Corsair H100i
Memory 4x4G kingston hyperx beast 2400mhz
Video Card(s) 2X EVGA GTX680
Storage 2X Crusial M4 256g raid0, 1TbWD g, 2x500 WD B
Display(s) Samsung 27' 1080P LED 3D monitior 2ms
Case CoolerMaster Chosmos II
Audio Device(s) Creative sound blaster X-FI Titanum champion,Creative speakers 7.1 T7900
Power Supply Corsair 1200i, Logitch G500 Mouse, headset Corsair vengeance 1500
Software Win7 64bit Ultimate
Benchmark Scores 3d mark 2011: testing
here is other transformer

8800GT :shadedshu,9800GT :wtf:,GTS 250 :twitch:, GTS450 :(
 

3volvedcombat

New Member
Joined
May 10, 2009
Messages
1,514 (0.27/day)
Location
South California, The desert.
System Name My Computer
Processor Core 2 Q9550 4Ghz 1.23volts
Motherboard Gigabyte
Cooling Corsair
Memory OCZ
Video Card(s) Galaxy
Storage Western Digital
Display(s) Acer
Case Lian li
Audio Device(s) Asus
Power Supply Corsiar
Software Microsoft
Benchmark Scores 25,000 3dmark06 at 4.35Ghz processor, 835core card!
Ok i love this comments.

Someone said there was a chain of evolving like this

8800gt with 112stream processors
9800gt with 112stream processors
gts 250 with 128stream processors
gts 450 with 256stream processors.

Now you realize a 450 is twice as fast as a 250 and 3 times faster then a 8800gt.

No were near for comparison.

Also looks like nvidia's cards are going to have 512stream processors as it states in the graph and wont have anything disabled. O no, O no.........

Looks like the whole 400 series might be faster then expected, but im still not see'ing anything yet its the 26th. Is there something wrong rawr!!!!!
 
Joined
Nov 4, 2005
Messages
11,984 (1.72/day)
System Name Compy 386
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard Asus
Cooling Air for now.....
Memory 64 GB DDR5 6400Mhz
Video Card(s) 7900XTX 310 Merc
Storage Samsung 990 2TB, 2 SP 2TB SSDs, 24TB Enterprise drives
Display(s) 55" Samsung 4K HDR
Audio Device(s) ATI HDMI
Mouse Logitech MX518
Keyboard Razer
Software A lot.
Benchmark Scores Its fast. Enough.
What happens when these require large coolers that add cost for minimal gain?
 
Joined
Oct 1, 2006
Messages
4,932 (0.74/day)
Location
Hong Kong
Processor Core i7-12700k
Motherboard Z690 Aero G D4
Cooling Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad
Video Card(s) RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming
Storage Plextor M10P 2TB
Display(s) InnoCN 27M2V
Case Thermaltake Level 20 XT
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
Power Supply FSP Aurum PT 1200W
Software Windows 11 Pro 64-bit
If these tables prove accurate, these will be the first mid-range video cards to not feature a 128-bit memory bus. The lowest is 192-bit and 256-bit for the middle and highest mid-range parts. I'm actually looking forward to the GTS450!
How about the 4850?

What happens when these require large coolers that add cost for minimal gain?
nvidia's AIBs will slap crappy coolers on to reduce cost. ;)
Just like those overheating 9800GTs :laugh:
 
Last edited:
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.87/day)
GeForce GTS 450 might be interesting if they catch the right performance/price ratio like it was with nearly all NVIDIA cards back in it's glory days (Ti4200, 6600, 7600, 8800GT, 9800GTX+, GTS250 etc). I just hope they won't cripple it the way they did 8500/8600 series...
 
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
2,441 (0.41/day)
System Name Dell Workstation t5810
Processor Xeon CPU's E5-2683 v4 Broadwell-E Technology
Motherboard Broadwell-E X99
Cooling Default fan System Level 3
Memory 48GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Radeon Pro VII 16GB
Storage 2 Internal SSD, 6 External HDD
Display(s) Dell 27 Inch Monitor
Case Dell Precision 5810
Audio Device(s) RealTek High Definition
Power Supply 825 Watts PSU
Mouse Soundless Black Quiet Mouse
Keyboard Dell Black
Software Windows Pro 10 x64
Dumb question, but what is this about?
Low to mid range non power connector nvidia dx11 cards?
 
Joined
Mar 23, 2005
Messages
4,089 (0.57/day)
Location
Ancient Greece, Acropolis (Time Lord)
System Name RiseZEN Gaming PC
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto
Motherboard Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard
Cooling Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans
Memory G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G
Storage Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB
Display(s) ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p
Case Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE
Power Supply Corsair RM750x Power Supply
Mouse Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition
Benchmark Scores I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming...
Dumb question, but what is this about?
Low to mid range non power connector nvidia dx11 cards?
Seeing how you can roast a PIG on top of a GTX 480 while gaming, I would say yes but they should suck back more power than ATI's equivalent.
 
Joined
Apr 10, 2006
Messages
373 (0.05/day)
Location
Arizona, USA
Processor Intel Core i5 3450
Motherboard Asus P8H77-M Pro
Cooling Thermalright HR-02 Macho
Memory 2x2GB G-Skill DDR3-2000
Video Card(s) Asus GTX660ti 2GB
Storage 128GB Samsung 830, 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black
Display(s) 23" Dell U2311H
Case Silverstone FT03 (titanium color)
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek ALC892
Power Supply SeaSonic X series SS-460FL
Software Windows 8 Professional 64-bit
How about the 4850?
The 4850 was a performance oriented card when it was released, like the 5850 is now (and the 3850 before it). The 4650 or 4770 would the be mainstream version of the 4850, which were both 128-bit.
 
T

TAViX

Guest
Are you absolutely sure, they wont rename the 8800GT this time also?!?!??
 
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
5,061 (0.88/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 7600
Motherboard Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Memory Kingston Fury Beast DDR5-5600 16GBx2
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Gaming OC AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB
Storage TEAMGROUP T-Force Z440 2TB, SPower A60 2TB, SPower A55 2TB, Seagate 4TBx2
Display(s) AOC 24G2 + Xitrix WFP-2415
Case Montech Air X
Audio Device(s) Realtek onboard
Power Supply Be Quiet! Pure Power 11 FM 750W 80+ Gold
Mouse Logitech G Pro X Superlight Wireless
Keyboard Royal Kludge RK-S98 Tri-Mode RGB Mechanical Keyboard
Software Windows 10
Joined
Jun 25, 2008
Messages
2,441 (0.41/day)
System Name Dell Workstation t5810
Processor Xeon CPU's E5-2683 v4 Broadwell-E Technology
Motherboard Broadwell-E X99
Cooling Default fan System Level 3
Memory 48GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Radeon Pro VII 16GB
Storage 2 Internal SSD, 6 External HDD
Display(s) Dell 27 Inch Monitor
Case Dell Precision 5810
Audio Device(s) RealTek High Definition
Power Supply 825 Watts PSU
Mouse Soundless Black Quiet Mouse
Keyboard Dell Black
Software Windows Pro 10 x64
Seeing how you can roast a PIG on top of a GTX 480 while gaming, I would say yes but they should suck back more power than ATI's equivalent.

Good, that is what i am looking for this summer, planning to buy a dx11 nvidia card, mid range at best :)
 
Top