New GeForce 400 Series Member Named GeForce GTX 465, Clock Speeds Surface

[btarunr]

Up until now, the third DirectX 11 compliant graphics SKU by NVIDIA, which was referred to as "GeForce GTX 460" has some confirmation in its naming, NVIDIA refers to it as "GeForce GTX 465". Some of its lesser known specifications that have come to light are: Clock speeds of 607 MHz (core), 1215 MHz (shader), and 801 MHz or 3206 MHz effective (memory). With a 256-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, the card will feature 1 GB of memory. NVIDIA is said to have managed a TDP of 215W. The price-range targeted by this SKU is US $259 to $299. If market positioning of this SKU is anything to go by, the GTX 465 should be competitive with ATI Radeon HD 5850 and HD 5830.



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[AlienIsGOD]

I wonder if this is as hot as the 480/470? I'd be interested if the priceing is right, the 5830 isnt an appealling card...

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Why call it GTX465?
There's no GTX460 yet, and now they won't be able to name the GTX465 after a possible die shrink+overclock.

 

[crow1001]

All the spec except the main one, how many cores does it have..

 

[ToTTenTranz]

All the spec except the main one, how many cores does it have..

352.
That's 5 units of 32 shaders disabled, out of a total of 16 in Fermi.

 

[KainXS]

its more than likely 352/384:44/48:32

but I don't think

will probably be around 5770 performance but its obvious that it will use much more power, Nvidia really needs the revised version by the end of the year, . . . . hell this quarter

 

[Cleorina]

Wow nice... but sorry nvidia... i going ATI now... your GTX out so late and very hot... Im very happy with my 5870 now... XD

 

[Yellow&Nerdy?]

I'd say that based on how performance dropped from the 480 to the 470, that this one is a little bit slower than the 5850, but a lot hotter and power hungry. Just like the other Fermis...

 

[HalfAHertz]

Damn why 215W? I like the original rumors about the GTX460 more
Ah.. I hope W1z gets a test sample soon...

 

[OnBoard]

Why call it GTX465?
There's no GTX460 yet, and now they won't be able to name the GTX465 after a possible die shrink+overclock.

They name it like that because it's most likely very close in performance to 470. Same reason why 470 is 470 and not 460.

There will be NO die shrinks this year, everything is 40nm. NVIDIA might as well make GTX 500 next as there won't be coming anything soon.

will probably be around 5770 performance but its obvious that it will use much more power, Nvidia really needs the revised version by the end of the year, . . . . hell this quarter

That just silly, GTX 260 is already there, you are seriously saying they'd make that card again..

352.
That's 5 units of 32 shaders disabled, out of a total of 16 in Fermi.

Hmm, I was expexting 384. 352 with the name doesn't make much sense.

Anyways, hurry up and put it on market so ATI might finally drop 5850 price

Damn why 215W? I like the original rumors about the GTX460 more
Ah.. I hope W1z gets a test sample soon...

Same, but that 215W sounds strange too. GTX 480 was 320W max (supposedly 250W TDP) and GTX 470 is 232W max (supposed TDP of 215W). That's 66% reduction. There's as much stuff disabled on GTX 465 as there was in 470vs480. So same 66% should apply and we'd end up with 154W max. But clocks stay the same and shader clocks heat things up. 480vs470 had 16% reduction on those speeds.

Has to be less that 215, as it's less of a card that 470 that already has that. But we'll know when they give one to W1zz

Interestingly, we heard the current batch of GTX 465 cores are essentially GTX 470 with just some CUDA cores turned off so there could be some possibilities of unlocking it if that remains the case.

That would be great, gimme another 6800LE I mean they'll use all the cores that have less shaders than GTX 470, but enough for GTX 465 specs, so some cards will have more working ones. If you could get even one cluster more, this would sell much better

Come to think of it, then the GTX 465 name would make sense, but I highly doubt they leave them unlockable

 

[jimmyme]

Do all you guys know about this...
http://www.ngohq.com/news/17769-evga-bans-discussion-of-physx-mod.html
Seems Nvidia arent doing alot right at the moment. I lost faith in the group when they paraded their Anti-intel GPU cartoons all over the web... anyways...

 

[t77snapshot]

Do all you guys know about this...
http://www.ngohq.com/news/17769-evga-bans-discussion-of-physx-mod.html
Seems Nvidia arent doing alot right at the moment. I lost faith in the group when they paraded their Anti-intel GPU cartoons all over the web... anyways...

hmmmmmmmm

 

[RadeonProVega]

So we have a GTX480/460/470/ and now a 465, um so where are the other non power connector DX11 cards?

 

[Fourstaff]

So we have a GTX480/460/470/ and now a 465, um so where are the other non power connector DX11 cards?

Plenty over the Red camp.

 

[RadeonProVega]

Plenty over the Red camp.

Yes i am aware. I plan to buy a HIS 1GB 5750(was going to buy a 5770, but the 5750 as lower draw power ) as a dx11 ati card, but for nvidia i wanted a non connector dx11 card. No rush, just was curious.

 

[KainXS]

That just silly, GTX 260 is already there, you are seriously saying they'd make that card again..

OK about a 5830 then after looking at the numbers, at the same core clock and shader clock this card has 22% less shaders and about 20% less raster power, so I would put the card in between the HD5830(24%%slower than 470) and HD5850(3%slower than 470)

I would really like to know though if nvidia is going to disable the 4th raster engine on the card since it looks like 1 GPC will be disabled

 

[PP Mguire]

Do all you guys know about this...
http://www.ngohq.com/news/17769-evga-bans-discussion-of-physx-mod.html
Seems Nvidia arent doing alot right at the moment. I lost faith in the group when they paraded their Anti-intel GPU cartoons all over the web... anyways...

Should probably read the whole article before making an opinion. They prohibited the talk of the mod on the forums then took that back. As far as i know they havent done anything to reverse the mod or render it useless in present driver releases.

 

[Bl4ck]

I don't care if it uses at max 215 watts , if it will be as good as my GTX275 in terms of performance i'll consider buying it but not at 299$ for a performance of 5830 , ATI made a stupid move to release HD5830 at such a high price , the HD5770 isn't that far away from it in terms of performance (both cards are slow for my needs anyway)
The VGA card market has got stupid and difficult since last 2 years.

 

[qubit]

Is this going to have better performance than my GTX 285? If not, then I think I'll wait for the die shrunk Fermi to come out and get the top-end model once the price has come down from it's ridiculous high.

 

[DriedFrogPills]

did read this which says something about a rumour of the 460 only having 256 shaders

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/nvidia_readies_entry_level_fermi_parts_summer_launch

 

[KainXS]

that article is probably wrong, it says 64 tmu's when not even the GTX480 has 64TMU's, and the price they say for the 460 is 300 dollars

 

[OnBoard]

Is this going to have better performance than my GTX 285? If not, then I think I'll wait for the die shrunk Fermi to come out and get the top-end model once the price has come down from it's ridiculous high.

It will be close. Same memory, a bit more ROPs (if it has 32?) more shaders, but 285 has higher clocks on everything. Think it will depend on the game. Shader heavy ones will be faster and those liking higher clocks slower.

What it has going is 40nm, dx11, lower price. But it'll overclock like a beast and then GTX 285 is left in the dust Die shurnk versions you have to wait long to next year.

Anyhow, first benchmarks will be interesting. My late GTX 280 clocked past GTX 285 speed so I'm too curious on how it'll do against it.

I would really like to know though if nvidia is going to disable the 4th raster engine on the card since it looks like 1 GPC will be disabled

If they disable 1 GPC that would also disable some working SMs -> 5th SM disabled starts to make sense for better yields. Otherwise you have to have always 3 perfect GPCs. If they'd only disable four SMs they could pick them all over the core. Same would work with 5 too, but I don't quite get the correlation with ROPs and Raster Engines.

 

[Xaser04]

This card does sound interesting although I would be slightly concerned on its power draw (isn't the TDP higher than that given (officially) for the HD5870?).

Performance and price will be the obvious deciding points although it will have to do something special to out price/perform the HD5850 (especially in the UK*).

*Rough prices from OCUK as guide:

HD5850 - ~£225
GTX465 - ~£225-250?
HD5870 - ~£320
GTX470 - ~£325
GTX480 - ~£475 (virtually non-existant)
HD5970 - ~£500-550 (depending on model)

It is difficult to see where this card will fit. My assumption would be at or around HD5850 pricing.

Slightly off topic but at current UK pricing (and availability) the GTX480 is a very poor purchase when compared to the HD5970.

 

[OnBoard]

So now we're back to GTX 460?

Nvidia's Geforce GTX 460 gets listed
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18777/1/

284€, who knows what final price is. That would be quite bad, more than 5850 and performance less.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Slightly off topic but at current UK pricing (and availability) the GTX480 is a very poor purchase when compared to the HD5970.

And so is the GTX470, given the HD5870 is cheaper and universally considered a faster card.

AMD didn't even have to budge their prices with the GTX480/70 launch..
I guess this GTX465 is going the same way.