BFG Tech Announces Exit From Graphics Card Category, Continues On With PSUs and PCs

[jonnyGURU]

That's good ... "conflict of interest" comes to mind. I didn't even realize jonny was at BFG.

One of the conditions of my working at BFG is that I quit writing reviews for my site. So Tony Day (Tazz) is now the admin and Jeremy Schrag (Wolf) writes the reviews.

 

[Zubasa]

Are Nvidias really that hard to sell compared to ATI? Not trying to start a war, but I also thought historically, Nvidia was better than ATI? When I was a young child, my older brother built gaming rigs and all he used was Nvidia. I'm 23 so this had to be nearly 10 years ago.

It is not exactly how many cards they can sell, but also how much they make from each card.

For example, a company can sell 1 ATi card and makes more money than selling 3 nVidia card etc.
Companies like XFX and BFG with their long warranties, might not be making much money at all if they end up replacing too many of the products they sell.
The GTX 280's failure rate is as high as the Dual GPU 4870X2, while the 280 isn't much cheaper to make.
We both knows which card sells for more back then.

 

[xtremesv]

It is not exactly how many cards they can sell, but also how much they make from each card.

For example, a company can sell 1 ATi card and makes more money than selling 3 nVidia card etc.
Companies like XFX and BFG with their long warranties, might not be making much money at all if they end up replacing too many of the products they sell.
The GTX 280's failure rate is as high as the Dual GPU 4870X2, while the 280 isn't much cheaper to make.
We both knows which card sells for more back then.

Actually, a little discussed topic is the financial one. For what I know GTX4xx are costlier to produce than HD58xx. I think Nvidia isn't willing to lose profitability so they pass the true cost to their partners who at the same time are beginning to complain in different ways. If Nvidia doesn't realize that sometimes a margin sacrifice is needed, they'll continue losing AIBP's

 

[cadaveca]

I'll say it again here, as it seems to match the situation.

nVidia IS NOT A HARDWARE COMPANY. They are a software company. AIBP's are hardware vendors, and are NOT nVidia's priority...Case and point...XFX and BFG no longer carrying new nV products.

It's not like BFG or XFX not carrying nV hardware will really affect availability for anyone...


And like XFX, I bet there is more to this story, as XFX promoted GTX480 before launch, and then changed thier stance. Soemthing in aquiring current cards is just not nice for these two companies, obviously.

I doubt BFG is going anywhere, but into higher profitability.

One of the conditions of my working at BFG is that I quit writing reviews for my site. So Tony Day (Tazz) is now the admin and Jeremy Schrag (Wolf) writes the reviews.

You made this pretty plain at the time too, if I recall correctly. Noone is really gonna hold ill will due to any of that. You set the standard in PSU testing, those that are aware aren't gonna forget that.

 

[stinger608]

This is truly sad news! I have had many BFG video cards, and all have been top notch quality!!

 

[eidairaman1]

Never owned a BFG, but can't blame them for Leaving the Market due to abysmal sales from Green.

 

[steelkane]

XFX & BFG leave, Will just see some other new companys come around, But I did like BFG cards

 

[Rakesh95]

I just realised, how many companies are there now that make just nvidia cards... just a thought.

 

[Hayder_Master]

BFG you have right to leave graphics, but there is an option leave NVIDIA carp and go with ATI

 

[Imsochobo]

I'm guessing this is a gentler way of saying "Nothing from nVidia is profitable right now, so we aren't going to sell GPUs until we are given something that is profitable, and we don't want to totally piss off nVidia by cutting ties completely".

And the fact that EVGA threatened with a exit, because nvidia wasnt nice to AIB partners at all, theese complications with EVGA was later resolved.

XFX doesnt drop nvidia all together, atleast not for this round, and i dont see the logic of dropping nvidia from XFX point of view.
Xfx dropped fermi, not nvidia just to correct some poeple thinking that XFX dropped Nvidia, just highend.

Nvidia's big players now are galaxy(not big), EVGA, and zotac. but they are all nvidia exclusive.
alltho galaxy may get crippled on income alot with fermi since they have no other products to fall back on. pitty, i really like Galaxy, innovative and sometimes stupid designs, but something diffrent.
And BFG

 

[Fourstaff]

I've never seen a BFG card for sale in the UK.

My first try in finding a BFG product:
BFG GT220 1GB DDR2 VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Car...

 

[LifeOnMars]

My first ever card was a BFG 6600 and it handled Doom 3 very nice.....More recently I had a BFG GTX 275 OC which was also solid as a rock.......I'm sure they will come back to the market.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

XFX & BFG leave, Will just see some other new companys come around, But I did like BFG cards

XFX hasnt left. they are still doing Nvidia cards but just not the highend ones.

I just realised, how many companies are there now that make just nvidia cards... just a thought.

listed on their site:

Asus
EVGA
Galaxy
MSI
Palit
PNY
Zotac

are 'authorised' board partners.

 

[gumpty]

I've never seen a BFG card for sale in the UK.

My first two GPUs were BFG, a 8800GTS 640 and an 8800GT. They've always been very decent value too - for instance I got the BFG 8800GT OC2 for less than some stock standard 8800GTs.

It's sad to see the Big Friendly Giant leave the GPU market, but I suspect we'll see them again in the future.

 

[Rakesh95]

XFX hasnt left. they are still doing Nvidia cards but just not the highend ones.



listed on their site:

Asus
EVGA
Galaxy
MSI
Palit
PNY
Zotac

are 'authorised' board partners.

Hey i was talking about Just Nvidia not both.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Hey i was talking about Just Nvidia not both.

I dont get what your trying to say. but surely its more profitable to do both ATi cards & Nvidia cards. Galaxy, Palit, PNY & Zotak are pretty much Nvidia exclusive partners. but other companies still do Nvidia cards too so i dont see what the problem is.

 

[DrPepper]

My first try in finding a BFG product:
BFG GT220 1GB DDR2 VGA DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Car...

Hmm I don't really look on ebuyer. I was expecting BFG to be selling all the high end cards.

My first two GPUs were BFG, a 8800GTS 640 and an 8800GT. They've always been very decent value too - for instance I got the BFG 8800GT OC2 for less than some stock standard 8800GTs.

It's sad to see the Big Friendly Giant leave the GPU market, but I suspect we'll see them again in the future.

Back after the 7 series BFG was quite prolific as well with the 8 series but they seemed to disappear after that.

 

[H82LUZ73]

I'm guessing they'll be back for the next generation. Never personally owned a BFG card but have known others who have had nothing but great experiences with the company. Experiences that rival those of EVGA. Too bad they did pull a XFX and moved to ATi, their step-up program would be a nice addition to the red team.

I really do wonder how much they're losing if they continued to sell Fermi cards considering the last time I checked their custom PCs cost an astronomical amount of money and I would hardly consider BFG for power supplies.

ATI has had a trade up program for like 10 years now.........

Sad to see BFG jump ship,maybe they might start making ATi cards.......

 

[FreedomEclipse]

ATI has had a trade up program for like 10 years now.......

maybe so but I cant find any info about it other then a few dead links posted in 2005/06 about the trade up program, also - when searching on their own website about it, nothing comes up.

so they probably do do a trade up program but they do not wish to honor it so silently take the information reguarding it off their website.

 

[jonnyGURU]

ATI did have a trade-up program when there were ATI branded cards. But now that all ATI cards come from AIB partners, you're not going to be able to "trade-up".

In other words, you can't hand in an XFX or Diamond ATI card and expect to get something better out of ATI. When ATI got out of the business of making and selling their own boards and focused on just making the chips, that trad-up program was shut down.

 

[newtekie1]

Actually, a little discussed topic is the financial one. For what I know GTX4xx are costlier to produce than HD58xx. I think Nvidia isn't willing to lose profitability so they pass the true cost to their partners who at the same time are beginning to complain in different ways. If Nvidia doesn't realize that sometimes a margin sacrifice is needed, they'll continue losing AIBP's

Consider this:

Gaming GPUs make up more than 2/3rd of Nvidia sales, the high margin Quadro products bring in 2/3rd of Nvidia's profit.

Now consider that companies like BFG and XFX both don't sell the workstation side, and only focus on gaming cards, and you have your answer why they aren't wanting to sell nVidia cards right now.

Now to mention both companies are known for being smart businesses and riding on the coat tails of whoever is best at the momemt. Both rode nVidia's wave of success, before the 6000 series, when nVidia started to take the lead, XFX and BFG were unknowns.

 

[SeanG]

ATI has had a trade up program for like 10 years now.........

Sad to see BFG jump ship,maybe they might start making ATi cards.......

I have never seen or heard of any ATI tradeup program.

 

[H82LUZ73]

Wow I just realized that they no longer do that my bad,Yeah they use to up until it looks like the 2900 series,Shame too it was really good back then you could trade up from a revenge-II to the new card and pay the difference.....Maybe AMD will see this and start it up again.

 

[Zubasa]

Wow I just realized that they no longer do that my bad,Yeah they use to up until it looks like the 2900 series,Shame too it was really good back then you could trade up from a revenge-II to the new card and pay the difference.....Maybe AMD will see this and start it up again.

The HD2k series was the last cards ATi made and the last cards to use the old naming scheme
After that it is all AMD.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

This is interesting. The GF104 cards are around the corner (the replacements for the 200 series) and I assume that the manufacturers have already gotten their hands on some samples and know what NV prices will be. I thought that NV was going to hit a home run with these new chips, but now it looks like maybe not. To me, BFG exiting says that the 4xx series are unprofitable. As a Folder, I find that disconcerting. We, the consumers, need a company like BFG to push the envelope. Although, Asus and MSI seem to be doing quite well in that aspect, and that might doom companies like BFG.