Yeah, it looks to be about 85% of a 5850, which is pretty sad at this price point. I'm surprised it's not cheaper, knowing they're just clearing out Fermi chips before replacing it with the GF104 336sp GTX460. I guess they need to recoup SOME costs on the disaster. If you've seen those early tests of the 460, and see 460/465 perform the same, I would wonder why anyone would buy this knowing that was coming VERY shortly. Not only for a lower price, but with a much lower TDP.
This is not to mention the...let's call it GTX475...almost certainly replacing the 470 with the same GF104 die using the full 384sp and likely a 750mhz clock at some point.
When you factor in the 490 (dual-gf104) card replacing the 480, it's really all about how quickly nVIDIA can get rid of GF100 Fermi dies to poor unsuspecting individuals before dropping the GF104...which they'll undoubtedly hail as a godsend miracle of Fermi-like performance at a lower-price and power-usage.
Hmm that's not quite right. GF104 should be 256 shaders max and that is GTX 460. You can't add something that's not in the core. Whole point of GF 104 is to make a simpler core that is cheaper to make and easier to cool, so it can be sold as performance segment card.
GF100 isn't going anywhere, what you can get is B revison of the core that is more efficient power wise.
the 490/495 will be GTX 465x2, GTX 460 won't be powerful enough to beat 5890. Way to do it is to use 448 shaders from GTX 470 and rest of GTX 465 and then clock it so that it's the fastest graphics card.
For the GTX 475, how would 384 shaders beat current 448 ?) You simply can't have a GTX 475 as that is current GTX 480, it has one shader cluster more. You only can get a GTX 485 with full 512 and I bet they are already saving those.
The listings also confirm the rumored specifications of 352 shaders cores, 1 GB memory, 256-bit memory interface and clock speeds of 607 MHz core / 1215 MHz shader.
Our review will be ready on time and posted when the NDA is expired.
If only it was 384 cores and TMU + rest in similar way, then it would be a serious contender to 5850 at a cheaper price and we might have finally see 5850 drop it's price first time ever in 8 months!
Now I know why I saw W1zzard lurking on the GTX 465 thread few days back, think his card was on it's way then
But seriously this is very suspicious that two companies can release so many cards that aren't direct competitions. It goes 5970->480->5870->470->5850->465->5830->(460)->5770->(450) from fastest to slowest and from most expensive to cheapest.
Come on EU or someone, fine them both, so I can get a new GPU at a reasonable price. I want price wars!
