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Razer Announces its First Mechanical Keyboards: BlackWidow and BlackWidow Ultimate

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that would be very expensive not to mention impractical. I think every component on the Deck Legend and Topre Realforce are rated for 20 years so what is the point in adding rubber domes and plastic rollers to them if they are going to fail long before every other component?

Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Review on Youtube.

DAMMIT! It's clicky.
Now I'm torn. I don't like clicky, but I like tactile. But it's a darn good price. It hits 2/3 criteria for me. Don't know what I should do now.
 

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yeah i dont like clicky either.... :(
 

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yeah i dont like clicky either.... :(

Yeah, but the price is so good. The only other backlit full size mechanical is a Deck, at US $170ish.

I think they really dropped the ball by going clicky. Most gamers that I know don't like clicky.

I'm truly saddened by this. I really had my hopes up :(
 

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that video review tried to make it sound good "oh wow, audio feedback!" ... yeah, try touchtyping at high speed, it'll piss you off fast... let alone housemates, family members, etc.
 

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Did you know, every mechanical keyboard has that 'tack tack' sound as you type? It's just that the buttons are much effortless to press while giving higher tactile feedback compared to ordinary (membrane) keyboards. The fingers are less fatigued after lots of typing or gaming.
 
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if they are Cherry MX Blue switches I am not sure why Razer chose them for a keyboard marketed toward gamers. Cherry MX Blue switches are suited for typing not gaming and the reason is the reset point in Cherry MX Blue switches is higher than the actuation point which means you have to lift your finger up almost all the way otherwise you run into problems double tapping and you have to double tap in games to sprint, strafe, jump, etc. other Cherry MX switches don't have this problem.

Cherry MX switches are quieter than Buckling Springs and Alps. from loudest to quietest Cherry MX Blue, Cherry MX Clear, Cherry MX Brown, Cherry MX Black, Cherry MX Red.

Cherry MX switches mounted to a steel plate are louder than ones mounted directly to the PCB.

you can see and hear for yourself.

http://www.viddler.com/explore/HotHardware/videos/69/
 

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Did you know, every mechanical keyboard has that 'tack tack' sound as you type? It's just that the buttons are much effortless to press while giving higher tactile feedback compared to ordinary (membrane) keyboards. The fingers are less fatigued after lots of typing or gaming.

No, not all of them have the click from the switch. I can deal with the click of the key bottoming out, but I cannot deal with the additional click of the switch.
 
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that video review tried to make it sound good "oh wow, audio feedback!" ... yeah, try touchtyping at high speed, it'll piss you off fast... let alone housemates, family members, etc.

it's a common response people get when trying a mechanical keyboard for the first time. everything sounds and feels so much better. the only people who have a negative experience with mechanical keyboards are the ones hypersensitive to sound. when you start typing on a rubber dome keyboard again it's very fatiguing because people apply more force to a rubber dome than needed.

there is a technique called not bottoming out where you apply just enough force to a Cherry MX switch that it actuates at 2mm but you never press it all the way down. this will decrease a lot of noise and increase typing speed. it takes practice.
 
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Razer Blackwidow Ultimate uses Cherry MX Blue switches. thanks to bull.

 
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Damn, I love clicky, reminds me of my good ol' first PC days.
 
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