AMD Announces Catalyst 10.10 WHQL Software

[Eddie9909]

GODDAM!!! Finally worked! Seriosly NEVER EVER EVER buying amd again. Had a amd processor that went bad after only three years of use. Now i got this Dell i7 980x and thinking that the graphics card was good enough, i chose amd. BIG MISTAKE!!!! anyways here is the link to anyone who has the "CCC NOT OPENING PROBLEM"

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/mobil...blems-installing-catalyst-control-center.html



Basically the problem is that amd does not know how to redirect DLL's when updating or uninstalling their crappy and buggy software. Its seriosly amazing that what Nvidia and other software/hardware mfgs do automatically in their updates, AMD has you doing it manually........and you dont even now KNOW IT!!!!! Waste of a saturday. THANK YOU AMD for totalling killing my confidence in you. They might be more expensive, but Nvidea totally makes reliability their #1 priority!

 

[DRDNA]

I have never had any issues with them...They just run fine for me!Srry you had a bad experience.

 

[RejZoR]

where is ACE.xml to be found? I edited MLF_NA in the registry and rebooted but can't locate ACE.xml

Depending on your system, it's located in the "Users" folder, your username and then Local folder. You'll find it in ATI folder.

Am I supposed to install the modded drivers on top of the 10.10a hotfix, or is the hotfix not needed?

or do i do a clean install of just the modded drivers?

No, you only have to install the hotfix as it's a stand alone package.

Morphological AA

There isn't an option to engage it on a 4850. I just looked at the settings myself, and it's a no go, but I knew that from reading the release notes. I don't think you're going to see morphological AA for the 4xxx anytime soon, if at all, unless someone ports it themselves.

From what i've managed to find info it can only be done on a DirectX 11 class hardware.
Since HD4000 series are DirectX 10 it's probably not possible. It has someting to do the way how DX 11 hardware calculates stuff.

but someone said the MAA was work on direct compute and the HD 4850 can use direct compute

Read the above quote. There is difference in DirectCompute versions and also this feature is at least for now limited to DX 11 class hardware.

I guess it only works in games without AA built in like Unreal 3 engine and Startcraft 2. I just ran Jerico and it looks MUCH smoother.

Since it's a post processing done in the pretty much final rendering stage it will be applied to EVERYTHING running in 3D space. If you'll check the papers on the net you'll see that Morphologic AA is actually in existance for quite some time for picture filtering and post processing of 3D renderers.

It's applied to anything on screen, even transparent textures like grass, leaves, branches and wire fences, isn't bound to specific game engines for as long as they are DX 9-11. Even in games that support FSAA by default. Morphologic AA is VERY cheap to use so if you're afraid to sacrifice framerate for smoother edges in games that are already demanding by themself (like Crysis), it's ideal.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Any chance someone with a 5xxx or 6xxx card can try MAA on Dead Space and post some pics with comparison if t works? If so my 4890s might be heading to the B/S/T forum.

 

[TheMailMan78]

It's applied to anything on screen, even transparent textures like grass, leaves, branches and wire fences, isn't bound to specific game engines for as long as they are DX 9-11. Even in games that support FSAA by default. Morphologic AA is VERY cheap to use so if you're afraid to sacrifice framerate for smoother edges in games that are already demanding by themself (like Crysis), it's ideal.

Ok fair enough! Now heres my next question. Now that I have it enabled should I allow the application to do the AA or Catalyst? I ask because it has the option to "use application settings". Should that be on or off. Does it even matter?

 

[AphexDreamer]

I ask why its not working ^_^ To lazy to reinstall so someone tell me I just need to reinstall so I can stop complaining .

Unless maybe I'm missing something?

 

[TheMailMan78]

I ask why its not working ^_^ To lazy to reinstall so someone tell me I just need to reinstall so I can stop complaining .

Unless maybe I'm missing something?

Did you do a uber clean install? Like restarting in safemode with driver sweaper and such?

 

[AphexDreamer]

Did you do a uber clean install? Like restarting in safemode with driver sweaper and such?

Nope. Generally speaking I never have to. I edit the config to enable Upgrade and do that. As a result I can see the option to enable MAA but don't notice a change.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Nope. Generally speaking I never have to. I edit the config to enable Upgrade and do that. As a result I can see the option to enable MAA but don't notice a change.

Well trying doing a deep cleaning like I suggested. It worked for me.

 

[dir_d]

Well trying doing a deep cleaning like I suggested. It worked for me.

x2 only way it would work

 

[AphexDreamer]

Well trying doing a deep cleaning like I suggested. It worked for me.

x2 only way it would work

Alright well noted guys, will do.

 

[RejZoR]

Ok fair enough! Now heres my next question. Now that I have it enabled should I allow the application to do the AA or Catalyst? I ask because it has the option to "use application settings". Should that be on or off. Does it even matter?

It doesn't matter. In fact, it's best to have FSAA disabled (Use Application Settings) in CCC and also inside game.
All you need to have checked is "Morphologic Filter" checkbox in CCC. This feature is a stand alone feature but can also work together with existing FSAA. So if you want a cheap and engine independent edge smoothing, use this only. If you want to combine them, you can do that as well. Either you set FSAA inside game or inside CCC. Both features will work combined.
Regular 2x FSAA and MLAA and you can get great results with minimal performance impact.

I guess i can try Dead Space tommorow (um the tommorow is already now lol) as it's integrated Anti-Alising was also getting on my nerves. Bluring some stuff and leaving other jaggy. Yuck. This one will work on everything for sure without annoying (over)bluring.
Just make sure you disable in-game anti-aliasing and enable MLAA in CCC.

 

[dir_d]

Dont think it works with Dirt2, i could be doing something wrong.

 

[RejZoR]

It has to work with EVERY game that is using Direct3D 9 or higher. Not sure about OpenGL games.
This thing is not game engine dependant like the regular FSAA hacks that ATI and NVIDIA enable in specific games. Yes, this means you can also have anti-aliased edges in Batman Arkham Asylum which supports FSAA only on GeForce cards.
If it doesn't, either you've set something wrong or you aren't using the right drivers (if you don't have "Morphological Filtering" in CCC, you don't have the right drivers). Official WHQL ones don't support this yet...

 

[TheLaughingMan]

GODDAM!!! Finally worked! Seriosly NEVER EVER EVER buying amd again. Had a amd processor that went bad after only three years of use. Now i got this Dell i7 980x and thinking that the graphics card was good enough, i chose amd. BIG MISTAKE!!!! anyways here is the link to anyone who has the "CCC NOT OPENING PROBLEM"

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/mobil...blems-installing-catalyst-control-center.html



Basically the problem is that amd does not know how to redirect DLL's when updating or uninstalling their crappy and buggy software. Its seriosly amazing that what Nvidia and other software/hardware mfgs do automatically in their updates, AMD has you doing it manually........and you dont even now KNOW IT!!!!! Waste of a saturday. THANK YOU AMD for totalling killing my confidence in you. They might be more expensive, but Nvidea totally makes reliability their #1 priority!

I honestly don't believe he had a processor burn out after three years without him either burning it up by OCing it too far, a failed CPU cooler, or a sever power surge.

So far my 10.10 installed through Steam is still stable and working very well. BFBC2 got a small boost in performance on the minimum frame rate, Borderlands is still the same for the most part, and I will also test Dead Space tomorrow as well.

Mu suggestion is to try the Steam installer if you are having trouble with the standard updating system.

 

[Mussels]

Drivers are here...i had to do a clean install of just these drivers for CCC to have the correct options.

Tried modded drivers + registry edit and it still wont show up for me.

 

[dir_d]

It has to work with EVERY game that is using Direct3D 9 or higher. Not sure about OpenGL games.
This thing is not game engine dependant like the regular FSAA hacks that ATI and NVIDIA enable in specific games. Yes, this means you can also have anti-aliased edges in Batman Arkham Asylum which supports FSAA only on GeForce cards.
If it doesn't, either you've set something wrong or you aren't using the right drivers (if you don't have "Morphological Filtering" in CCC, you don't have the right drivers). Official WHQL ones don't support this yet...

Dirt2 dosent look like any of the other games with MLAA enabled, ill do more testing.

 

[Mussels]

can someone post a how to, with intalling the drivers and getting MLAA showing up?

 

[RejZoR]

Mussels, just use modded drivers i've posted on page 3. That works fine. I did a clean install using Driver Sweeper though i don't think it's necessary.

Ok, here is the deal as far as Dead Space goes. The MLAA is light years better. Some jaggies will still apear on certain elements but at least you don't get annoying blur. Plus the stuff that is filtered is still sharp, unlike with default AA feature. I don't have any screenshots to prove it as it's hard to snap it in the very same spot and show something interesting since you're limited with checkpoints. But as i said, it doesn't completely eliminate jaggies. Mostly on places where even in-game AA engine had problems. Mostly those text signs above doors. But everything else is nicely smoothed out, including Isaac himself.

 

[TheMailMan78]

can someone post a how to, with intalling the drivers and getting MLAA showing up?

Uninstall your drivers. Restart in safe mode. Run Driver sweaper, Reboot. Run CCleaner registry cleaner. Install modded drivers, Reboot, Enable in CC.

 

[Mussels]

i didint driver sweeper and you two did, so thats likely it. will do now.

 

[AphexDreamer]

Did a clean install of drivers and MLAA is still not working. It shows up and I have it checked but it isn't doing anything.

 

[Mussels]

Did a clean install of drivers and MLAA is still not working. It shows up and I have it checked but it isn't doing anything.

you need driver sweeper, just fixed it for me.


uninstall current drivers + CCC

run driver sweeper

reboot, install modded drivers.

reboot.

cake with MLAA

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Thanks Rejzor. Looks like I may be getting a 69xx series sometime soon.

 

[AphexDreamer]

you need driver sweeper, just fixed it for me.


uninstall current drivers + CCC

run driver sweeper

reboot, install modded drivers.

reboot.

cake with MLAA

Thanks but I did exactly that. No dice, no cake

EDIT: I found one game it works in and its a Source Mod, I know this cause it make the text/font illegible lol .