GeForce GTX 580 Cooling Solution Detailed to Public

btarunr · Nov 8, 2010

NVIDIA is just a couple of days away from releasing the GeForce GTX 580, the company's trump card which came literally out of nowhere, compared to AMD's Northern Island GPUs, which were talked about for months. At the PDXLAN 16.5 event, NVIDIA showed off some slides that are most relevant to gamers, notably the thermal and acoustic characteristics of the reference design thermal solution. The latest thermal solution does look a lot more compact compared to that of the GTX 480, especially the lack of that hot-plate and heat pipes sticking out is notable.

The new cooling solution relies on vapor-chamber technology to convey heat to the aluminum fins, instead of heat pipes. The fan features a more refined adaptive fan profile. Combined with a more power optimized GPU, the new thermal solution is said to be more efficient and quiet compared to even that of the GeForce GTX 285.

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BorgOvermind · Nov 8, 2010

They found they way to prevent reactor meltdown. Good.
Even so, nV's best seller after 460 will probably the 460 SE (the 6/8 clusters enabled GF104).

Flanker · Nov 8, 2010

still not convinced on those tiny fans, they look like they need to spin 3000 rpm to have any realistic airflow

983264 · Nov 8, 2010

They must say "EVEN BETTER THAN GTX 480" rather than 285... :nutkick:

[H]@RD5TUFF · Nov 8, 2010

I thought the presentation and the demo were amazing stuff, and I can't wait to see the product in actuality rather than on slides and on paper!

Imsochobo · Nov 8, 2010

nvidia should drop anything lower than 440/540,
Fusion, and sandy bridge is comming, and it will hit nvidia hard.
Unless nvidia can keep themself real and really good in the server market, and will provide good technologies.
But they will become smaller in terms of volume, but maybe not profits.

Nvidia's move have been smart, but i dont know if its enough.
fusion is really fast, faster than you might expect, and i've heard sandy is also quite impressing, to be intel we're talking about.

Good gtx580 comes, cause 6970 and 6990 will be quite powerfull, and 580 will bring prices down hopefully.
my 5850 still cost more now than it did release day, and the 2 following months after release.

TheLostSwede · Nov 8, 2010

It's £400!!
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detail.php?products_id=4370723
Still cheaper than a 5970, but... it's also £60+ more than what they sell GTX 480 cards for...

Imsochobo · Nov 8, 2010

TheLostSwede said:
It's £400!!
http://www.yoyotech.co.uk/item-detail.php?products_id=4370723
Still cheaper than a 5970, but... it's also £60+ more than what they sell GTX 480 cards for...

so, ~same or less die size, and still dont know how to price

rather go with a 5870 at 250£
6970 will probably be 300 quid, if not more.

erixx · Nov 8, 2010

I never believed 'vapor-tech'.... The slide shows liquid 'dripping' down to the core, when in a real "case" it would be upside down... Is there really a liquid supposed to be travelling inside the block? Maybe I am just thick this early in the marning!

pantherx12 · Nov 8, 2010

erixx said:
I never believed 'vapor-tech'.... The slide shows liquid 'dripping' down to the core, when in a real "case" it would be upside down... Is there really a liquid supposed to be travelling inside the block? Maybe I am just thick this early in the marning!

Yeah there is a liquid, it evaporates and travels as the speed of sound in a vacuum ( so much faster than conduction :laugh:

) and takes the heat to the other side of the vapour chamber or pipe.

And since lots of fins are there the vapour cools down back into a liquid and wicks back to the start where it happens again.

Necrofire · Nov 8, 2010

It's probably textured on the inside, so that the inside surface acts like a wick, just like in heatpipes.

Flanker · Nov 8, 2010

erixx said:
I never believed 'vapor-tech'.... The slide shows liquid 'dripping' down to the core, when in a real "case" it would be upside down... Is there really a liquid supposed to be travelling inside the block? Maybe I am just thick this early in the marning!

in theory the fluid will travel back near the gpu by capillary action. How well that works in practice is another story...

wahdangun · Nov 8, 2010

hmm isn't vapor chamber was own by ati/shapire ???

btw i hope its not just fully enabled GTX 480,

i can't wait to see the benches but shame nvdia won't provide TPU a card,

Athlon2K15 · Nov 8, 2010

983264 said:
They must say "EVEN BETTER THAN GTX 480" rather than 285...

You must not understand that the GTX285 was nvidia's quietest card as far as fan noise goes, So for them to make it better than a 285 is impressive. :nutkick:

pantherx12 · Nov 8, 2010

wahdangun said:
hmm isn't vapor chamber was own by ati/shapire ???

btw i hope its not just fully enabled GTX 480,

i can't wait to see the benches but shame nvdia won't provide TPU a card,

No those two don't own it.

It's quite an old discovery the ole vapour cooling.

@Necrofire here's the patent to a particular type of flat heatpipe
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6679318.html
get to see a cut away diagram.

983264 · Nov 8, 2010

AthlonX2 said:
You must not understand that the GTX285 was nvidia's quietest card as far as fan noise goes, So for them to make it better than a 285 is impressive.

Oh, Is that so? I'm referring the THERMAL OUTPUT of the upcoming card... If they said it, then, they must make it sure that it is true, or else, another epic fail... or not...

buggalugs · Nov 8, 2010

Heres a nvidia presentation about the "new" cooler and a few other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMHIDpT88&feature=player_embedded

Bjorn_Of_Iceland · Nov 8, 2010

983264 said:
They must say "EVEN BETTER THAN GTX 480" rather than 285...

983264 said:
Oh, Is that so? I'm referring the THERMAL OUTPUT of the upcoming card... If they said it, then, they must make it sure that it is true, or else, another epic fail... or not...

Clearly, you were reffering to the slide.. when it clearly stated 'Accoustics' in the corner. Try and read first before commenting.

btarunr · Nov 8, 2010

983264 said:
They must say "EVEN BETTER THAN GTX 480" rather than 285...

GTX285 cooling solution is already better than GTX480.

Hayder_Master · Nov 8, 2010

at last they think about them suck reference cooling

HalfAHertz · Nov 8, 2010

This is looking very impressive. TheGTX580 may very well be the first Nvidia GPU to hit 1GHz on Air

Animalpak · Nov 8, 2010

vapor chamber technology nice

Lionheart · Nov 8, 2010

buggalugs said:
Heres a nvidia presentation about the "new" cooler and a few other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMHIDpT88&feature=player_embedded

I enjoyed watching that, cheers bro.

BorgOvermind · Nov 8, 2010

Yes, vapor chamber technology is nice if you implement it correctly.
I'd use thermoelectric cooling if I were a GPU/CPU manufacturer.

Jonap_1st · Nov 8, 2010

buggalugs said:
Heres a nvidia presentation about the "new" cooler and a few other things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPMHIDpT88&feature=player_embedded

i saw it yesterday..

its really great on tesselation, but the others. (vapor chamber, "first" blackops trailer), meh..

especially when he tell people to cheer up, i knew something was wrong..

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