Cayman Confirmed To Be Using VLIW4 SP Arrangement, Redesigned ROPs

[TheMailMan78]

:shadedshu I expect a formal resignation from TPU now.

When do we see the actual cards again?

Benches are nice but um don't we game and fold more then bench?

 

[Fourstaff]

Benches are nice but um don't we game and fold more then bench?

Sure you do, but to say "its just a bench" is a bit like saying "why do we upgrade" in TPU, I thought you understand that.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Sure you do, but to say "its just a bench" is a bit like saying "why do we upgrade" in TPU, I thought you understand that.

I do man. Just a little melancholy today. Sorry.

 

[DRDNA]

I care about the benchies! I care mostly about the benchies and then about some games but mostly about the benchies!

 

[f22a4bandit]

Good thing I have a part time job. I can actually save up money for one of these 69xx bad boys! I'm excited to see the performance of these cards, and of course W1zz's reviews!

 

[TAViX]

They also say that they double the tessellation performance. I really want to see that!

Some additional pics:

And new type of AA. This is interesting:

 

[OneCool]

Should be fun to see W1z review


There better be a review with crossfire too

 

[HalfAHertz]

It would be cool if AMD could use the TDP limiter in a way similar to the one on Bulldozer.

It's basically like an advanced turbo core technology and the principle is pretty straight forward: If you can change frequency fast enough and if your workload is varied, there are certain moments where you can raise frequency for "free" while at the same time still be under the TDP limit.
The only problem here would of course be uneven performance spikes you would get, so that's probably a bad idea for games, where you want steady fps, but a great idea for HPC programs where you aim for maximum efficiency...

 

[bear jesus]

I hope the 69XX suck so that I feel less worse for buying a 6870 instead of waiting

Just sell it

I intend to sell my 6870's and buy a 6970 so i can get back to using a single card/chip, even before knowing the performance of it the 6970 is the only real option for me as i want a single card/chip to run 3 monitors and the fact that a 6870 is almost enough it just needs to be slightly faster with more memory for my needs..

 

[f22a4bandit]

I wonder if the 69xx series will improve upon F@H for all of those members that are concerned with that. I know that AMD (formally ATI) cards lack the power in that application, and it'd be nice to those that do prefer AMD over Nvidia to have a card that can perform on par in F@H. A level playing field gives power to the consumer.

 

[bear jesus]

I wonder if the 69xx series will improve upon F@H for all of those members that are concerned with that. I know that AMD (formally ATI) cards lack the power in that application, and it'd be nice to those that do prefer AMD over Nvidia to have a card that can perform on par in F@H. A level playing field gives power to the consumer.

I have almost given up on the idea of ATI/AMD cards being useful for folding until a client comes out that can put any of the cards form the past several generations to use.

I want an nvidia gpu for my htpc just so i can do a useful amount of folding.

 

[alexsubri]

So wait, if it's under NDA until 22nd Nov (Here in Jersey its 8:27 PM EST) , but when will we see the benchies? After NDA or they still haven't sent the cards out yet to the reviewers (TPU, HardOCP, etc)

 

[DriedFrogPills]

I wonder if the 69xx series will improve upon F@H for all of those members that are concerned with that. I know that AMD (formally ATI) cards lack the power in that application, and it'd be nice to those that do prefer AMD over Nvidia to have a card that can perform on par in F@H. A level playing field gives power to the consumer.

this will only happen when Stanford finally get around to writing an OpenCL client, GPU3 currently is CUDA based GPU2 only uses about 320 SP's on ATI cards

 

[wolf]

I don't even know WTF is going on here but I lol'd

he used one of the coolest words I have ever heard (equipotent) so he must be mine forever.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

NDA was extended to Dec 13th i thought? or somewhere around that time

 

[alexsubri]

NDA was extended to Dec 13th i thought? or somewhere around that time

They better not delay it again! I can't wait to see these beast's

 

[n-ster]

Just sell it

I intend to sell my 6870's and buy a 6970 so i can get back to using a single card/chip, even before knowing the performance of it the 6970 is the only real option for me as i want a single card/chip to run 3 monitors and the fact that a 6870 is almost enough it just needs to be slightly faster with more memory for my needs..

I'm receiving my card Friday

hopefully 6870s in CFX do respectably vs the price they cost

 

[f22a4bandit]

I have almost given up on the idea of ATI/AMD cards being useful for folding until a client comes out that can put any of the cards form the past several generations to use.

I want an nvidia gpu for my htpc just so i can do a useful amount of folding.

this will only happen when Stanford finally get around to writing an OpenCL client, GPU3 currently is CUDA based GPU2 only uses about 320 SP's on ATI cards

Oh okay, didn't know the technical aspects of the client, thanks for the heads up!

 

[bear jesus]

I'm receiving my card Friday

hopefully 6870s in CFX do respectably vs the price they cost

Oh i didn't realize for a while i only had one card in use and to be honest i have been surprised at how well a single card runs the games i play at 5040x1050 and for most of the games crossfire is overkill.

Also after a quick google there is some sites showing 6870 crossfire vs 580 reviews and the 6870 crossfire beats the 580 in multiple games, not in every game but enough to say that 6870 crossfire is around the performance of a 580 and going by prices form scan (I'm on the uk) it's cheaper £365 for 6870 crossfire and £400 for a 580 so I'm pretty sure you will be happy with your purchase.

 

[wahdangun]

so this power containment thing is if we let said use amd overdrive to change the tdp for 170watt then the card will adjust the card core clock and sp to meet the tdp?

 

[Hayder_Master]

i hope it's have better performance with high AA too, the 5xxx series fail with 32AA and sometimes even with 16AA
if they success with this old weak points it will be great, but it's still one more thing they should think about it which is physics

 

[bear jesus]

i hope it's have better performance with high AA too, the 5xxx series fail with 32AA and sometimes even with 16AA
if they success with this old weak points it will be great, but it's still one more thing they should think about it which is physics

Would not most of the cards run out of memory when using things like x32AA? Also would it not make more sense to be using opencl based physics thus it's not really down to AMD as they already support it and so do nvidia.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Its just a bench man. In game is all that counts.

You can always play heaven and imagine there are some enemies.. like what i do sometimes

 

[Over_Lord]

Weeeee Redesigned ROPs. Can't wait to see benches.

no wonder they are sticking for old 5GT memory if the previous news is correct

 

[Steevo]

i hope it's have better performance with high AA too, the 5xxx series fail with 32AA and sometimes even with 16AA
if they success with this old weak points it will be great, but it's still one more thing they should think about it which is physics

It has been shown that Physics runs fine on a CPU, even Physx will run just as fast on a CPU as it does on a GPU when they user current coding. With the current move to multi-core processors running a dedicated thread for physics is a simple fix, or just adhering to the DX11 standard would be great.

As resolution increases the need for AA decreases, and the form in which AA is performed needs to evolve, no more overdrawing, cause at anything above 1680 it becomes too burdensome to perform with any sort of performance.