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also ppl forget corsair also rolled out the newer shittier CX brand of PSUs so while im guessing there units are fine in general a few bad units + lower quality mainstream = higher overall failure rate. eitherway dosent matter to me all units fail at some point.

I don't know, the Builder series have not been out that long. I don't think they would affect the numbers that much so soon.
 

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you know what - we have been taking the piss out of Thermaltake and their crappy PSUs for years - but how do they get a lower failure rate then Corsair??? Corsair are supposed to be one of the best of PSUs, its suprising
 

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these results are bullshit... seasonic & CWT provide the psus for the antec brand.. which has had a horrible track record when CWT used to supply the shittest caps in the world to antec.. then they switched to seasonic, and a lot of their newer psu's are still with seasonic, with a mix in of CWT on a few models... corsair is predominately seasonic with some CWT models as well... thermaltake is predominately CWT now a days, and enermax builds most of their own psus..

comparing a bunch of brands (many of which are built by the same 2 manufacturers) and getting drastically different results is a load of bullshit.. all should be near each other, with the exception of enermax.. plus seasonic having the worst failures is very hard to digest, since they are renowned for having the highest quality of components and praised for the brands which use it (pcp&c, corsair, antec,etc. ), AND the fact that most antecs (Which scored so damn good) are built by seasonic themselves.

where is the data? testing methods? who was the oem for the psu's tested?

also, if antec is so damn good, why is their warranty 3 years, vs the up to 10 years offered by solid, built-by-seasonic, brands.
 
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I call shenanigans, also they doesn't include a lot of the other top brands, Silverstone and PC & Power Cooling, just to name 2. Also my personal experience is to the contrary, but *shrug*, just like everything else the french say take it with a large grain of salt.
 

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I'm skeptical of these results. Firstly it's in a language that I don't understand, and anyone who doesn't speak my language is clearly evil. :D

Are the sample sizes large enough to be scientifically valid? Where is the data relating to the time-to-failure (aka DOA vs 2 months and then failure)?

I'd like more info on their methodology.
 
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"The returns rates given concern the products sold between October 1st 2009 and April 1st 2010 for returns made before October 2010, namely after between 6 months and a year of use. The statistics by manufacturer are based on a minimum sample of 500 sales, those by model on a minimum sample of 100 sales. Each time, we’ve compared the rates by manufacturer to those in our previous article on the subject published in April."

So returns, does this mean even an item that is in working condition, and just returned for a different item?

And a 1yr span?! I would prefer a RMA list of items 2+ yrs old before warranty runs out to see the % of failures over the % of items returned over the span of a year.

Interesting none the less.
 
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IMO two years is too long to justify quality, alot of things change by then.. And also I'm assuming the returns rate is for product replacements or RMA after they buy the faulty PSU
 
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Read awhile back that its Seasonic who makes PSUs for Antec but Antec adds to them before shipping. Think Corsair does too but Antec does something different that other makers don't. Forget now what it is.

Heh, glad I only buy Antec now. I've had stuff from FSP in the past and some others, all failed within a year or 2. If I hadn't have been forced to buy an Antec at a Best Buy when I had an emergency situation, I probably would still be buying that junk.
 

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Heh, glad I only buy Antec now. I've had stuff from FSP in the past and some others, all failed within a year or 2. If I hadn't have been forced to buy an Antec at a Best Buy when I had an emergency situation, I probably would still be buying that junk.

How many units are we talking? Either you're extremely unlucky, or you do something wrong (I assume that's not it though). :p
 
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Unless they include DOA, I don't care what 6 months to a year's stats say.

The point everyone should take from this is that all top brands have a failure rate below 4%. That is damned impressive for items with as many components as a PSU or HDD have.
 

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I do not believe them :D

Not unless the number of the sample are the same on each manufacturer, RMA recorded within fixed time (i.e 6 months, 1 year, etc etc).

If they are indeed right, and I don't mean to pick any side, the most selling things (in this case, psu), are highly get more RMA than any other brand.

And people with seasonic, corsair and enermax psus are often OCed their pc, if not extreme. We all know what could it be if you pushed your hardware to the limit
 
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1 Year just isn't enough time for me. That's like Consumer Reports (although I love them) rating a car as "Recommended" based on reliability in it's first model year. Sure that Ford is reliable in it's first model year, but what about year 5?

I will say that I have an Antec TruePower-II going on 6 years of 24/7 that is still running like a champ.
 

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these results are bullshit... seasonic & CWT provide the psus for the antec brand.. which has had a horrible track record when CWT used to supply the shittest caps in the world to antec.. then they switched to seasonic, and a lot of their newer psu's are still with seasonic, with a mix in of CWT on a few models... corsair is predominately seasonic with some CWT models as well... thermaltake is predominately CWT now a days, and enermax builds most of their own psus..

comparing a bunch of brands (many of which are built by the same 2 manufacturers) and getting drastically different results is a load of bullshit.. all should be near each other, with the exception of enermax.. plus seasonic having the worst failures is very hard to digest, since they are renowned for having the highest quality of components and praised for the brands which use it (pcp&c, corsair, antec,etc. ), AND the fact that most antecs (Which scored so damn good) are built by seasonic themselves.

where is the data? testing methods? who was the oem for the psu's tested?

also, if antec is so damn good, why is their warranty 3 years, vs the up to 10 years offered by solid, built-by-seasonic, brands.

Hit the nail on the head with a might big hammer.
 
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but what about year 5?

This is what I was thinking, but the problem is, we'd be looking at PSU's made in 2005. If we want a 2 year timespan to accurately judge these companies, we'd still be looking at PSU's from January 2009, which is still too old to judge IMO.
We need to know what percentage of HX-xxx's (with the 7-year warranty), HX-xxx's (with the 5-year warranty) and CX-400's (the crappy one's) etc. individually. This would be helpful.
 

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Seasonic, the makers of Corsair and Antec is at the bottom of the list?? Does not make sense to me at all. As far as i am concerned, Seasonic changed the game on PSUs when it comes to quality long life components and stable effecient products since 2005 when they started out as the first to have the 80 PLUS certification.
 
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heh, i think its funny this came out just after my Antec power supply fried.
 

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Wow very interesting...
 
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