Hear Every Detail: Logitech Unveils Theater-Quality Surround Sound Speakers

[Jack Doph]

500 watts RMS? Many won't appreciate that statistic since so many companies advertise peak power which has no bearing on performance.

500 watts RMS is insane for a computer speaker setup. Most home theater setups come nowhere close to 500 watts RMS.

Neat stuff.

Whilst that may be true, getting something to go loud is relatively easy.
However, making it sound good at any given loudness is a different matter altogether..
That's the bit I'm interested in

 

[Mussels]

replacements indeed, these arent an upgrade. they just replaced the prone to failure control pod.


they really needed a version with HDMI inputs.

 

[Cold Storm]

replacements indeed, these arent an upgrade. they just replaced the prone to failure control pod.


they really needed a version with HDMI inputs.

There you go.. that would make life better. I mean, the "trade in" program is the only reason I think about getting these.. I've been half tempted to sell mine to go receiver and speakers..

 

[Mussels]

oh and to the people with their X540's...

i own a set of those as well. they have NOTHING on the z5500's (and therefore, these) in terms of sound quality.

 

[raptori]

why there are no more (out of the box) 7.1 speakers

 

[Cold Storm]

why there are no more (out of the box) 7.1 speakers

That is a good thought..

 

[Wile E]

More overpriced Logitech garbage. I'll buy an Onkyo HTIB for that price, and enjoy something that actually has some fidelity.

 

[Mussels]

That is a good thought..

because the most popular entertainment (DVD and games consoles) mostly only support 5.1


i'm sure 7.1 will kick off more when HDMI setups continue.



Wile E: overpriced? sure. garbage? no. most people like to be able to buy something decent without needing a degree and years of experience in a field to know what to buy. this will satisfy a hell of a lot of people.

 

[Wile E]

because the most popular entertainment (DVD and games consoles) mostly only support 5.1


i'm sure 7.1 will kick off more when HDMI setups continue.



Wile E: overpriced? sure. garbage? no. most people like to be able to buy something decent without needing a degree and years of experience in a field to know what to buy. this will satisfy a hell of a lot of people.

I just told you what to buy. Onkyo home theatre in a box. Any of them. Example: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BEDQR6/?tag=tec06d-20

And these are garbage. They have the fidelity of a 10 year old emerson boom box with a subwoofer added for effect.

 

[Mussels]

I just told you what to buy. Onkyo home theatre in a box. Any of them. Example: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BEDQR6/?tag=tec06d-20

And these are garbage. They have the fidelity of a 10 year old emerson boom box with a subwoofer added for effect.

yeah, find me those for sale in australia, at competing prices. you likely wont be able to.

 

[Wile E]

Don't know where to shop for stuff there, but even if the HTIB is more expensive, so what? Save up your money and get something even better.

Or save your money period, and just buy an elcheapo 5.1 set from that doesn't have the digital inputs and control box, and just use analog outs from a use Audigy or Xonar or something. Equal fidelity for even less cash.

There really is no excuse to buying this stuff. It just encourages them to continually push out sub-standard, premium priced products. Just like Bose.

 

[BumbleBee]

Energy RC-Micro 5.1 are pretty popular.

 

[Jack Doph]

Don't know where to shop for stuff there, but even if the HTIB is more expensive, so what? Save up your money and get something even better.

Or save your money period, and just buy an elcheapo 5.1 set from that doesn't have the digital inputs and control box, and just use analog outs from a use Audigy or Xonar or something. Equal fidelity for even less cash.

There really is no excuse to buying this stuff. It just encourages them to continually push out sub-standard, premium priced products. Just like Bose.

Well.. the thing is that this caters to a specific market.
The vast majority of PC users have no need for, or even an idea about, true audio fidelity as such, nor does it really matter.
When comparing apples to apples, Logitech has done quite a good job for what's on offer.
Of course home Hi-Fi will be better, but at what price point do you wish to compare?
A friend of mine in the USA spend HUGE amounts of money on getting the best he could get at the time, including speakers with a nearly linear response from 20-20000Hz.
Things is.. those speakers alone cost him US$250K each.. (yes.. he's a rich bastard!).
However.. his system clarity was defeated by a $250 Technics amp, mated to a $500 pair of Beyerdynamic headphones.
It's horses for courses really

EDIT: Mussels: JB HiFi sells some of these Onkyo setups. More specialised audio places can probably give you a better range of these products

 

[Wile E]

Well.. the thing is that this caters to a specific market.
The vast majority of PC users have no need for, or even an idea about, true audio fidelity as such, nor does it really matter.
When comparing apples to apples, Logitech has done quite a good job for what's on offer.
Of course home Hi-Fi will be better, but at what price point do you wish to compare?
A friend of mine in the USA spend HUGE amounts of money on getting the best he could get at the time, including speakers with a nearly linear response from 20-20000Hz.
Things is.. those speakers alone cost him US$250K each.. (yes.. he's a rich bastard!).
However.. his system clarity was defeated by a $250 Technics amp, mated to a $500 pair of Beyerdynamic headphones.
It's horses for courses really

EDIT: Mussels: JB HiFi sells some of these Onkyo setups. More specialised audio places can probably give you a better range of these products

Those that don't need fidelity, can just buy the cheaper alternative I mentioned above.

 

[Jack Doph]

Those that don't need fidelity, can just buy the cheaper alternative I mentioned above.

I hear ya mate.
What I simply mean is that these speakers, regardless of what we might think about them, are actually quite good for what they are and offer gamers and movie-watchers alike quite a good audio experience

 

[Wile E]

I hear ya mate.
What I simply mean is that these speakers, regardless of what we might think about them, are actually quite good for what they are and offer gamers and movie-watchers alike quite a good audio experience

That's where I disagree. They are terribly overpriced for what they are, therefore, making them a poor purchase. People can have a great (not just good) experience for the same price, or they can have the same just plain old good experience for much less.

Now, if these were in the $200 or less (preferably $175 or less) category, you wouldn't hear much complaint out of me.

You have to factor in price to determine how good they are.

 

[BumbleBee]

I don't think Logitech speakers are good for anything.

 

[Jack Doph]

That's where I disagree. They are terribly overpriced for what they are, therefore, making them a poor purchase. People can have a great (not just good) experience for the same price, or they can have the same just plain old good experience for much less.

Now, if these were in the $200 or less (preferably $175 or less) category, you wouldn't hear much complaint out of me.

You have to factor in price to determine how good they are.

Well.. if the frequency response of this new set is equal to the Z5500, then they're not all that dissimilar to the Onkyo example you gave, at a very similar price-point.
Yes.. the Onkyo would be better overall, but so it should be, as they cater to the home HiFi market

 

[MikeMurphy]

I don't think Logitech speakers are good for anything.

Then have something in common.

 

[Jack Doph]

I don't think Logitech speakers are good for anything.

Why not?
I'm the first to arc-up about PC sound systems being less than great, but for the market they cater to, they're quite good - they're just not audiophile quality, but then they don't need to be.
Audiophiles would ignore this market segment completely

 

[BumbleBee]

Why not?
I'm the first to arc-up about PC sound systems being less than great, but for the market they cater to, they're quite good - they're just not audiophile quality, but then they don't need to be.
Audiophiles would ignore this market segment completely

I don't like the design, construction or quality of Logitech speakers. I have owned a couple sets in the past (G51, X540, Z5500 and Z680). I think a 2.0 set like the M-Audio Studiophile AV40 is a better choice and more practical for PC.

 

[Jack Doph]

I don't like the design, construction or quality of Logitech speakers. I have owned a couple sets in the past (G51, X540, Z5500 and Z680). I think a 2.0 set like the M-Audio Studiophile AV40 is a better choice and more practical for PC.

Ah, point taken
I must admit that the Z2300 set I had was quite alright for games/movies.
Of course, for music creation it was rubbish, but again, so are all the PC speaker sets out there.
Again.. for an audiophile (or music creators/manipulators), PC speaker-sets just don't cut it, but they're not part of this group to begin with.
For the majority of PC users, this current set of Logitech speakers (or almost any brand really) will suffice just nicely

 

[Mussels]

yeah these arent made for music creation, or even music. they're gamers speakers, and they cater to gaming PC's and current gaming consoles.

just because you can get something that suits your tastes better at the same price, doesnt mean its better for everyone, or that this is junk.

i cant use most high end speakers due to room - i had to use coat hangars and zip ties to wall mount mine, since i have no floor or desk space and i cannot drill holes or attach anything permanently to the walls... so tell me, whats better? logitechs i can use, or bookshelfs i cant?

 

[Jack Doph]

yeah these arent made for music creation, or even music. they're gamers speakers, and they cater to gaming PC's and current gaming consoles.

just because you can get something that suits your tastes better at the same price, doesnt mean its better for everyone, or that this is junk.

i cant use most high end speakers due to room - i had to use coat hangars and zip ties to wall mount mine, since i have no floor or desk space and i cannot drill holes or attach anything permanently to the walls... so tell me, whats better? logitechs i can use, or bookshelfs i cant?

I could be a smart-arse and say "use headphones!", but I won't.


Duly noted and agreed.
Horses for courses

 

[Mussels]

I could be a smart-arse and say "use headphones!", but I won't.


Duly noted and agreed.
Horses for courses

i have the headphones too


it just annoys me to see people bashing something intended for a different market. These are not high end speakers you dedicate an entire room to, these are for gamers packing speakers into their bedroom.