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FX Turbo Core Technology Bumps Frequency by 1.00 GHz

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Probably b/c the p3 was that much better in the end. A p3 o/c'd to p4 speeds (first gen) usually beat it, well in my past gaming experience anyway.

Netburst was kinda fail
 
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So is Netburst.

Well I tend to think of netburst as a IPC and clock speed architecture, they were going for high clocks looking for IPC on the limited process capability of the day. As process tech improved they found the long pipeline design to be less eficient and was giving negative returns on IPC for MHZ increases, So with better process tech and the lessons learned they went back to the p3 design and modernized it for core. Which was a really good idea. P3 was a pretty solid design.


AMD however has completely tossed the entire design out the window. Actually given equal process I expect AMD and BD to beat intel in a number of ways but not in pure IPC per clock.

Heres what I expect

Slightly lower IPC per mhz, but a higher clock to correct for that, being able to share resources lets them stick more in a core, also their design better distributes thermals over the chip and its more segrgated in a few ways, so they can really clock up the chip and shut down uneeded core to improve IPC in workloads where high IPC matter and core count is less relevant.

They actually have done a good job, now the issue will become execution, did they get the execution right, if they did they should have a incrediable value with good thermal and power management with competitive IPC " not in a clock for clock ratio though" but in a core for core ratio.

If they did everything right.

this design really hits at where the workloads are, more INT then FPU and then a powerful FPU to cover those workloads as well. Its a fucking brilliant design. Question is do they have the quality of cache, int,fpu,decode,prefetch etc to be comparable to intel. Given the R&D time involved, I don't think they left many stones uncovered. This chip is aiming for a braod range of efficiency compromises and if done properly, should be a great product.
 
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I find this 1GHZ boost very promising for overclock potential. Remember that AMD has to limit clocks in order to keep these chips within TDP specs. Then, of course there will have to be a certain amount of OC headroom left as a buffer zone, beyond the turbo clock.

Let's just say that I don't plan on staying withing TDP margins when I get my hands on one of these.
 
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I have a few questions:

1 - If the CPU OCs itself within the TDP, how does one manually OC: raise the TDP in BIOS or something?

2 - Can the reverse of 1 happen too (reduce the TDP, instead of increasing it)?

3 - If one OCs the CPU, can the turbo still work (yes but with smaller boost / not @ all)?


That all, for now.


1. You would over clock as we do now, by changing multipliers or FSB speeds. With that the turbo boost speed would go up also so you may have to shut it off or lower it excessively.

2. Yeah CPUs already do this, when I'm not doing anything my cpu runs at 800mhz ( not sure if that's what you meant)

3. See 1.
 
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1. You would over clock as we do now, by changing multipliers or FSB speeds. With that the turbo boost speed would go up also so you may have to shut it off or lower it excessively.

2. Yeah CPUs already do this, when I'm not doing anything my cpu runs at 800mhz ( not sure if that's what you meant)

3. See 1.

Say your speed is 3 GHz and the turbo reaches 4 GHz and that has a max TDP of X. Now: if you overclock to ... say ... 3.6 GHz, will the turbo stop @ 4 GHz due to TDP / no longer have a turbo / turbo will go to 4.6 GHz, thus ignoring TDP? This is what i meant with question 1, and the first 2 of the three options is what i mean with question 3.

I have my E8400 running @ 9*225=2.025 GHz: with speedstep, it reaches 6*225=1.35 GHz. I was wondering if the reverse of my first question was possible where, by reducing the X TDP in BIOS, thus giving me a lower speed while still giving the 1 GHz turbo increase. Underclock it to ... say ... 2.2 GHz: will you have a turbo reaching 3.2 GHz / not have a turbo / turbo reach 4 GHz due to TDP still being X (not changeable in BIOS)? This is my point in question 2.
 
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