Intel Aims at 10 nm Processors by 2018

[TheMailMan78]

10nm is the channel length (physical), the thickness of the gate dielectric will be much less than that.Yes, Intel has a tough road ahead.

When the CMOS scaling hits a wall, all the major semiconductor companies should start making processors based on an open (license free) instruction set architecture which is more efficient than x86 and more scalable than ARM. ( my dream )

This could be your dream man.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2008/01/21/algae-computers.html

Can't patient nature.

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

It would be even better if they look at other materials as well.

That's what I was thinking I mean I have a suspision we are @ or near the limit of current materials.

 

[Thatguy]

That has to do with matter density which is somewhat a different debate. As for the electron being made up of "smaller particles" isn't really supported by current theories as the election is a building block of matter unless you feel holons and spinons are smaller (less volume). But that wouldn't explain the original mass of the electron when split. They are just less energized but the mass is consistent which why I believe in the fragmentation of the electron. Not the split.

Your assuming of course that we actually understand what a electronc is !

 

[ensabrenoir]

Its really easy to get caught up in the end result(the toys of our amusement) That one can often trivialize the scientific intellect used to create it. Much brain cells were re-awakened as strangely enough..... i understood(most) what was being talked about, Who knew... i guess i was paying attention in college after all...

 

[Hayder_Master]

When they say this that's mean already have sample of 10nm cpu.

 

[Thatguy]

When they say this that's mean already have sample of 10nm cpu.

I doubt that, they might be close though.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Well, you can't accuse them of not being ambitious. XD

 

[lilhasselhoffer]

That's what I was thinking I mean I have a suspision we are @ or near the limit of current materials.

What?

Intel is not stupid. They do not base their production futures off of hopeful numbers, they base them off of reality.

When light transfer methods (for resist etching) could no longer work they had developed doping. When traditional silicon didn't provide enough resistance they developed high-k gate materials. When 2d transistors posed heat dissipation issues they developed 3d transistors. As high-k materials are becoming insufficient they are researching graphene solutions.

Now spend a little time thinking about the manufacturing environment. Research needs to be completed, prototypes need to be made, production machinery needs to be designed, machinery needs to be fabricated and installed, trial runs need to be made, and the people need to be trained for production. Two years to do all of this means that, right now, Intel is very likely testing the basic prototypes of the 10 nm process. If not, they can't be far off.

Current problems with the 22 nm process are very likely to not make any difference in the future plans. Scaling the process for production is a different challenge than research. Whenever you understand how a machine like Intel works, you understand that one delay doesn't have the same domino effect that it would at other companies.

 

[Thatguy]

What?

Intel is not stupid. They do not base their production futures off of hopeful numbers, they base them off of reality.

When light transfer methods (for resist etching) could no longer work they had developed doping. When traditional silicon didn't provide enough resistance they developed high-k gate materials. When 2d transistors posed heat dissipation issues they developed 3d transistors. As high-k materials are becoming insufficient they are researching graphene solutions.

Now spend a little time thinking about the manufacturing environment. Research needs to be completed, prototypes need to be made, production machinery needs to be designed, machinery needs to be fabricated and installed, trial runs need to be made, and the people need to be trained for production. Two years to do all of this means that, right now, Intel is very likely testing the basic prototypes of the 10 nm process. If not, they can't be far off.

Current problems with the 22 nm process are very likely to not make any difference in the future plans. Scaling the process for production is a different challenge than research. Whenever you understand how a machine like Intel works, you understand that one delay doesn't have the same domino effect that it would at other companies.

yes it does, and I predict more delays. Why any delay cuases a domino effect in any production enviroment is that is typically pulls engineering resources away and also often creates quality and process audit for engineering standards. Every fialure had better have a thruough review and its review applied to all forward tech and manu, if not. Thats fialure with a big fat F

 

[Funtoss]

Hmmm it could be acheiveable lol

 

[bostonbuddy]

I'll wait for the bio computers that store data similar to dna.
My 960 should get me by till then.

 

[extrasalty]

I think intel will elongate the transistors vertically and pack them much like the hard drives perpendicular recording.

 

[Recus]

Not sure is it allowed to create threads in "News" section, will post here. Deal with it.

Intel arms Haswell with DX11.1

http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/14288-intel-ger-stod-for-directx-111-i-haswell

 

[Damn_Smooth]

I'm still waiting for a 10Ghz Netburst. It's 2011 Intel, where is it?

 

[mdm-adph]

This could be your dream man.....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2008/01/21/algae-computers.html

Can't patient nature.

You want to bet? Tell that to all the trolls trying to patent parts of the human genome.