AMD FX Series Processors Up For Pre-Order

[LAN_deRf_HA]

AMD doesn't price for competition these days. They slot their products into price points that match their performance in relation to the competition. Whether that's cpus or gpus. This tells a good bit of what to expect from BD.

 

[Over_Lord]

so when are the reviews out?

 

[techtard]

Maybe they dropped their prices since Ivy Bridge is right around the corner.
Could be because the FX chips aren't s competitive as everyone would like.

Or these chips could be winners and they want to undercut the competition.

I am slowly going mad waiting for these cpus to launch!

 

[ensabrenoir]

Unless amd made a deal with rumplestilkin.... that price is too low

 

[H82LUZ73]

FX-57 and its $1000 price tag?

that was when they were the top dog before the core duo hit the market.

They did this when Phenom 1 hit maybe why the price drop it will not compete with 2500k-2600k Sandy Bridge but we price to sell it for budget performance.

 

[repman244]

that was when they were the top dog

I know that, and that was my point. Everyone thinks that AMD will always price their CPU's low. Well that is simply not true, they price them low because of their performance.

And going by the price that is rumored, IMO the performance will be a little lower than 2600K.

 

[H82LUZ73]

I know that, and that was my point. Everyone thinks that AMD will always price their CPU's low. Well that is simply not true, they price them low because of their performance.

And going by the price that is rumored, IMO the performance will be a little lower than 2600K.

I was agreeing with you Yeah they said back in 06 the Phenom was a solid contender to the core duo what happened,They missed 2 release dates until q4 (Nov 07 ) when they hit the market and fell flat on their faces.

 

[repman244]

I was agreeing with you

Ahh, I apologize for that mate. I misunderstood your reply

What worries me are the never ending delays. Which indicate that there are some issues (and at this point I don't believe there are yield issues at all).
But then again AMD has a nice platform for new CPU's in the future. They desperately needed something new to build on rather than constantly tweaking the K10.

 

[Dent1]

I know that, and that was my point. Everyone thinks that AMD will always price their CPU's low. Well that is simply not true, they price them low because of their performance.

So how do you explain the cheap AMD Sempron beating out the expensive Pentium 4.

AMD could of priced the Sempron expensively. But didn't.

 

[caleb]

When did Sempron compete with P4?!

 

[repman244]

Well 2600K beats everything AMD has, they could price it at $1000 couldn't they? Well they could but it wouldn't sell at all.

I was referring more to the higher end parts (like the 8 core FX which would be priced at ~$1000 if it was the best out there).

 

[Dent1]

When did Sempron compete with P4?!

Marketing wise, the Sempron was a low end processor which was supposed to compete with the Intel Celeron.

However AMD's architecture was so superior that these low end Semprons often destroyed the much higher clocked Pentium 4s.

AMD still priced, these low end Semprons below the Celerons, likewise the AMD Athlon 64s were priced also way below the significantly slower Pentium 4s.

Well 2600K beats everything AMD has, they could price it at $1000 couldn't they? Well they could but it wouldn't sell at all.

I was referring more to the higher end parts (like the 8 core FX which would be priced at ~$1000 if it was the best out there).

That is because the 2600k is high end but they've branded their enthusiast high end part as "Extreme Edition" so customers will find it hard to justify a $1,000 pricetag for a non Extreme Edition product. However the i7 Extreme Edition is also high end and beats everything AMD currently has out and is $1,000.

Intel Core i7-990X Extreme Edition Gulftown 3.46GH...

I do see your point and it does have merit. But I'm just pointing out that AMDs performance has rarely ever reflected it's pricing. AMD have always been cheaper than Intel regardless of the performance gap. So saying Bulldozer is slow because of its low price holds little weight.

 

[Rowsol]

I'm pure gamer so I'm waiting for the quad cores to show up but at $266 an 8 core chip is a great deal.

 

[Jegergrim]

If the BD chips do fail, LGA 2011 will just be a couple of months away. Seems like the premium platform aswell, so could save up for it, but having had waited for BD this long, I expect it to minimum compete with 2500k and 2600k or even surpass them, if they don't, AMD seriously needs to reconsider their position on the market. If they barely compete with a lowered price, Intel will drop prices of SB accordingly, and I don't see a reason not to buy the SB over another failure... since the boards will actually be future proof for a while, whilst the AM3+ will be a one time thing.

 

[Yellow&Nerdy?]

If these prices have any truth in them, it would mean that the FX 8150 does lose to the 2600K. Otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to price it that low. Since the 8120 is priced against the 2500K, it probably can compete with it. Personally I hope they are competitive chips: I will either buy them, or SB, since Intel would most likely drop the prices on it. So it's a win-win for consumers.

So apparently the delay-news were mumble-yumble or what?

 

[xd_1771]

Phenom II = 258 mm2 (http://www.anandtech.com/show/2702/2)
BD = 315 mm2

The BD size comes from S/A who don't normally BS with AMD material. Still may be incorrect but cannot find any conflicting info on web. So it's not smaller.

Don't think there's much sense in comparing a quad core and octo core die
I was comparing the BD to the Phenom II x6... it IS smaller than that.

I don't think it's right at all to assume that just because AMD's pricing is lower that means AMD have lost the battle. Tons of other possibilities.

 

[johnnyfiive]

Preorder is nice, but when will it arrive if one were to preorder a BD CPU? Next quarter? This quarter? Next month? What is the actual RELEASE date? Does anyone really know?

 

[Jegergrim]

If these prices have any truth in them, it would mean that the FX 8150 does lose to the 2600K. Otherwise there wouldn't be a reason to price it that low. Since the 8120 is priced against the 2500K, it probably can compete with it. Personally I hope they are competitive chips: I will either buy them, or SB, since Intel would most likely drop the prices on it. So it's a win-win for consumers.

So apparently the delay-news were mumble-yumble or what?

I don't agree, simply because theres far more factors to consider, than just price/perf. ratio, AMD has generally been cheaper, they are behind Intel and need to catch up (possibly convert LGA 1155 users), whilst being aware of the fact that SB-E is less than 3 months away, not to mention Ivy Bridge. And since this is their newly designed chip, they need it to sell prior to any obstacles, so I believe the performance is minimum up there with SB if not superior, if not I doubt they'll sell even with a lowered price, SB would just drop accordingly (for gamers/benchers), not video encoders..

 

[TheLaughingMan]

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And they have the i7-950 1366 at $322.49 so you may want to consider taking their prices with a grain of salt.

 

[Steevo]

I am ready for a upgrade, board, CPU, memory, drives. Keeping GPU, cooling loop, PSU case.....after all it was a Mkmods build, and still is awesome.

 

[Casecutter]

This is an interesting development, but I'd ask how strong is Bottom Line Telecommunications in with AMD? I mean is BLT actually is sanctioned by AMD, to post pricing prior to release? Normally pre-order implies product is 15-20 day from being a deliverable?

I've seen Etailer's like this collect orders and process them, only to turn around and Email that the order is cancelled and that’s that. I don’t see why anyone would pre-order at this point. To me it more disinformation from whom or what for who knows, but legit that kind of tell me it less end of the month, I can’t see AMD permitting a distributor to list price and let that stew for a month that just bad stunt. I say BLT is a nothing-nobody, they got wind of some pricing (could be fake or divisionary) and took it upon themselves drive a little increase in traffic... could hurt. This honestly means nothing other than btarunr hoping for a little extra traffic here a tPU. :shadedshu

 

[PopcornMachine]

Assuming performance based on pricing is an over simplification. (nicest way I can put it)

What ever price they actually go on sale for, it means that is the price AMD thinks will make them the most profit.

Performance remains to be seen.

 

[erek]

i pre-ordered

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

If those are real prices, they seem kinda low, like disappointing performance low, I say this is just an attention grab.

This is an interesting development, but I'd ask how strong is Bottom Line Telecommunications in with AMD? I mean is BLT actually is sanctioned by AMD, to post pricing prior to release? Normally pre-order implies product is 15-20 day from being a deliverable?

I've seen Etailer's like this collect orders and process them, only to turn around and Email that the order is cancelled and that’s that. I don’t see why anyone would pre-order at this point. To me it more disinformation from whom or what for who knows, but legit that kind of tell me it less end of the month, I can’t see AMD permitting a distributor to list price and let that stew for a month that just bad stunt. I say BLT is a nothing-nobody, they got wind of some pricing (could be fake or divisionary) and took it upon themselves drive a little increase in traffic... could hurt. This honestly means nothing other than btarunr hoping for a little extra traffic here a tPU. :shadedshu

Then don't come here if you don't like the news posted, instead of getting your panty's in a twist about things you see as casting AMD in a negative light.

 

[NAVI_Z]

as much as i been anticipating BD's arrival, i'll be waiting for some real world numbers and tests

before i take the plunge. I've waited THIS LONG so a couple weeks wont hurt.It seems that

new cpu's and mobo's are comming out more and more frequently now. Like every six

months.It be a shame to pony up some dough for a new cpu and mobo just so that a new set

hits next week n shit. i see it all the time. i hope all the rumors are not true.

Here's to AMD kikin some Intel ass!