AMD FX 8150 Looks Core i7-980X and Core i7 2600K in the Eye: AMD Benchmarks

[Yellow&Nerdy?]

These slides should probably be taken with a grain of salt, since they are from AMD. But they must have some truth in them, and I have to admit, it doesn't look that bad. Considering it's much cheaper than the 2600K, the performance is actually pretty damn good. As the marketing trick with the huge OC showed, these processors should have pretty good OC potential. I have to say that I do look forward to October 12th and the 3rd party reviews.

 

[seronx]

lol.

I'm going to go and play with my lego bricks now. I know when my knowledge is 0% about something.

It can calculate division by 0....just saying

Also to point out because Cinebench R11.5 is using the Intel compiler

FX-8150 is calculating with only SSE2
While
the i7 2600K and i5 2500K is calculating with AVX

Intel Compiler v12.0, 2010 32bit: Intel AVX, AMD SSE2, 64bit: Intel AVX, AMD SSE2

 

[NdMk2o1o]

So AMD is taking souls for CPUs now?

Not souls, they're going one better and taking soulds, dirty ****ards

I for one wouldn't mind going down the BD route if it can keep up with my 2500k and would swap it out for the same perf on BD, let alone 2600k as I haven't been AMD for 4 years now, not because of choice but because since then Intel has bested AMD, would be a nice change for me to go back to AMD

 

[_Zod_]

All AMD has to do is match the 2500k at a lower price for me to continue using their chips. That kind of performance is more than I require. But sadly AM3+ is a doomed socket so I will wait for the next gen anyway. Besides I just picked up this PII and it should go another year no problem with a GPU upgrade along the way.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Honestly I don't get all this bickering. These are MARKETING SLIDES. You know meant to SELL SOMETHING?! These are not a biased review by a third party like TPU. These slides are by AMD. They are garbage. Why fight?

Second keep things in perspective. Most people do not run multi GPU setups. So what advantage will SB have over BD other then that? If even that?! Will your E-mail open in 3 nano seconds with Sandy rather then 4 nano seconds with BD? BD will give you 150 FPS in Bad Company 2 when Sandy will give you 200 FPS? I mean really? Most console games run at 30 FPS! Is Sandy faster? Who knows. Probably. But how much faster is really needed at this point and is worth the price? I mean in a real world scenario. Is it worth the extra money. I mean you guys are arguing over a Shelby Super Snake with a super charger vs a Shelby Super Snake without a super charger. WTF does it matter?! They are both SUPER SNAKES.

The amount of audio encoders and 3D animators are like .5% of the market. So for you I say buy the fastest. Get the super charger. For everyone else buy the cheapest. The regular old Super Snake with its pissy 500hp.

Its about perspective. Lets not lose it.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Totally agree MM, tell you what would be a surprise if for once the marketing slides where actually being conservative and BD actually nutkicked SB, but alas that is probably not the case, still can't complain if they go toe to toe (give or take) with SB/980x as they are priced just right, you want SB perf pay for it, you want damn near perf, pay $50 less for it

 

[[H]@RD5TUFF]

If they want to boast numbers, show actual screenshots. Just a few slides does not have me beleiving this.

Same and let us not forget both intel and AMD inflate their benchmark numbers.

 

[TRWOV]

But in general applications the FX-8150 can't beat the Core i7 2600k?

That's a shame.

AMD always said that BD was targeted at Core i5-2xxx performance and it seems that they've succeeded.

 

[jpierce55]

If this is true, great news, and I cant see how anybody is disappointed. Expecting more than this was just plain foolish.

 

[Benetanegia]

So AMD is taking souls for CPUs now?

If I was AMD I'd rather keep my soul than trying to sell a product this way. That's what I meant and it's not something I have against AMD, only against the way they have conducted marketing. I don't even know if that kind of marketing is legal, yes legal, here in Spain.

If you don't think "Customers are idiots" then you have no sense of the corporate world or even society as a whole. If customers weren't idiots, Best Buy wouldn't be in business, lawyers wouldn't exist, and we'd actually have competent people in government.

And your point being? I know very well how society is and the problem is that at so many levels, we get shit served instead of a meal, and most people would just rather eat it than bother standing up and getting the cake from the fridge. That doesn't trouble me, stupid people are stupid. What worries me is how people that I'd consider intelligent, as in they belong to TPU, apparently do the exact same thing, because hey "the rest of morons do the same thing anyway, that's how society works". What worries me even more is how I get so much opposition, as if I was doing something wrong by not eating shit. I mean what I'm simply offensive because I don't want to eat shit like the rest of conformists?? Seriously...

 

[TheMailMan78]

If I was AMD I'd rather keep my soul than trying to sell a product this way.



And your point being? I know very well how society is and the problem is that at so many levels, we get shit served instead of a meal, and most people would just rather eat it than bother standing up and getting the cake from the fridge. That doesn't trouble me, stupid people are stupid. What worries me is how people that I'd consider intelligent, as in they belong to TPU, apparently do the exact same thing, because hey "the rest of morons do the same thing anyway, that's how society works". What worries me even more is how I get so much opposition, as if I was doing something wrong by not eating shit. I mean what I'm simply offensive because I don't want to eat shit like the rest of conformists?? Seriously...

You understand these are share holder slides not meant for public consumption? AMD isn't marketing anything toward you. Technically your not even supposed to see these. Your rage is displaced.

 

[Frick]

You understand these are share holder slides not meant for public consumption? AMD isn't marketing anything toward you. Technically your not even supposed to see these. Your rage is displaced.

And marketing slides have always looked like this. It's their nature.

 

[Super XP]

This is great news, let the competition begin and the prices drop

 

[cadaveca]

Hopefully it will be done, but if not I will post results.

I ain't posting shit unless AMD gives me the CPU. Why would you do marketing for free?


Of course, if the launch is October 12th, reviewers that will have reviews live for launch day should either have their CPUs, or will get them next week. I do not have one, nor do I expect one, as much as I'd like to do the review.

Oh, and look, I have no products to review currently, and lots of time to get a review done.




You guys wanna see how fail AMD marketing is? Let's see if TPU has a review ready for launch day. If yes, then AMD consumer marketing = OK. If not, then AMD consumer marketing = FAIL.

I guess we'll find out in a few weeks.

This is great news, let the competition begin and the prices drop

I do not expect price drops. INtel will justify higher costs because of equal perforamcne to BD(or close, anyway), plus, SB chips also have a GPU, that BD chips do not. Intel has NO REASON to lower prices. It's up to the consumer to decide what's better for them, and if they don't know, then sales peopel will push whatever has the highest profit margins. Basic stuff here.

 

[alexsubri]

Just in time too, I recieved my ASUS Sabertooth 990FX MB yesterday ... I bought a new CPU Cooler, THERMALTAKE Spin Q to be exact...Do you guys think that it will support the new Bulldozer Chips?

 

[erocker]

I ain't posting shit unless AMD gives me the CPU. Why would you do marketing for free?

I'm a tech enthusiast plus, I do what I want. Any other factors mean nothing to me.

 

[ironwolf]

Might want to read some opinions on HardOCP, they are calling it all faked, given the source site and their past, very possible.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1638571

 

[erocker]

Might want to read some opinions on HardOCP, they are calling it all faked, given the source site and their past, very possible.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1638571

Why should we bother with another forum's bickering? There's plenty of it here already. None of it matters until release.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Might want to read some opinions on HardOCP, they are calling it all faked, given the source site and their past, very possible.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1638571

Yes, the source does suck, but why should a bunch of people that know nothing more than us be a credible source of disproving something?

I'll still be buying it so I really don't give a shit if this is real or fake.

 

[JATownes]

To me all this back and forth about SB vs BD is irrelevant. I am going BD and have already made my mind up, because I find it the most cost effective, and I like to support the underdog. I have been running an AMD 965 X4 on an M4A79 with 4GB of DDR2 1066. This gear is getting VERY OLD, and it will still slice through everything I throw at it without any hiccups.

I say this because for the "average" consumer/gamer, that is not an overclocker/enthusiast, can any of you think of any game that a halfway decent quad with a halfway decent video card cannot push? Most of these people just want to game at a decent frame rate with their single mid-range video card, and not get any of chop.

So besides for us enthusiast (very small % in the grand scheme of things), what is the purpose of the "average" consumer having something that they will only use 25% of the power of anyway.

Buy what you want, and let others buy what they want. Until the game developers start giving us games that will push last generation technology (actually probably 2 generations ago) to it's limit, what is the purpose. We should quit bitching at each other about AMD/Intel and start bitching at game developers to give us something that can actually show all that power we pay so much money for.

/RANT

Thank you for your time.

 

[ironwolf]

Why should we bother with another forum's bickering? There's plenty of it here already. None of it matters until release.

If you guys don't care about the legitimacy of the source site or article and it's checkered history of fake articles/posts, it's all good. Simply trying to point out that there are a lot of people here commenting like all this info is concrete gospel truth. How many times have we all seen sites make up crap that was not even remotely accurate/true/legit?

 

[15th Warlock]

What a let down well, it was to be expected, there was no way AMD could meet the hype that has surrounded BD for so many years after so many delays, comparing to an old i7-980X (last I heard the 990X's been out for a few months) and barely matching or surpassing its performance, when Tom's showed a few weeks ago that the 6 core 2011 SB-E procs trounce the 990X in all multi threaded applications.

Besides, as quoted by the OP, BD performs on par with the 2600K, but beats its price by $70, well, the 2700K will be out in a few weeks and chances are Intel will lower the prices of their existing processors, making this a non issue; seems like this so called "price-performance shock" won't be as dramatic as expected. The FMA4 instruction set advantage is questionable at best, how many everyday applications and games will benefit from this new set of instructions?

It's a shame, I was really rooting for the AMD of the old days, able to match and surpass Intel, and creating a competitive environment that would only benefit us as consumers, but it seems like BD is not gonna be the CPU that will restore AMD to its former glory...

 

[seronx]

 

[Super XP]

This same source broke the news of the Phenom II. they are just as credible as HardCop and X-Bit Labs. Currently nobody knows how Bulldozer is going to perform, AMD still states a 50% performance improvement over Phenom II.

We need Bulldozer for healthy competition, can't wait to see the real thing in action. Once official reviews come out, I believe people will be amazed.........

 

[Mussels]

looks like good news to me