Look, the forum and Steam itself have nothing to do with each other. SPUF is a craptastic forum where people say whatever they want with the mods (volunteer "user" mods) do what they want. Workers from VALVe don't read or care about it. It's a forum left for users to create their own feedback. However, sadly, it instead is full of locked threads and banned people due to insults/trolls, "I'm VAC BANned!" threads and whatever you name it.
As such, VALVe didn't "screw up". Steam is driven off different content servers from all across the globe, unlike the forum which is a vBulletin ran off Washington from VALVe HQ (ping it/look at Steam settings).
You don't know what you're talking about.
That's a pretty absurdist statement... also, I assumed it's fkn0wned themselves to take attention (buy their private hacks). It was worded that way, yes, it may be someone else, BUT, Steam is running perfect and please read Gabe's message again. He says "might be/just in case, and we think". He's not sure and is assuming. So it's not to be relied on.
Really?
We learned that intruders obtained access to a Steam database in addition to the forums. This database contained information including user names, hashed and salted passwords, game purchases, email addresses, billing addresses and encrypted credit card information. We do not have evidence that encrypted credit card numbers or personally identifying information were taken by the intruders, or that the protection on credit card numbers or passwords was cracked. We are still investigating.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/
Also, I don't give a rats butt about the steam forums. I have never even read it. And like I said, if all that was hacked was some forum database, I wouldn't care. But based on what I'm reading on their page, it sounds like they were able to also access the database which contains user and CC information (Though encrypted).
It makes no sense for Valve to admit credit card information was exposed when it really wasn't. They ARE responsible for keeping our information secure, and if what they say is true then they failed at that. As unlikely as it is that anyone was able to copy the information, let alone decrypt it, Valve still screwed up if it was exposed (Especially if it was by the people you seem to think did it).
It's a perfectly valid attack to draw attention to one attack meanwhile another, more serious, attack takes place unnoticed due to the distraction.
You do realize that the
THOUGHT of credit card information and identity theft happening because of a company, and a company admitting it, could mean a MASSIVE lost in business for that company due to a lack of trust from consumers. If I don't trust them and don't think they will keep my information safe, I am not going to buy a game from them.
Like I said, not everyone thinks that way. Lots of people go on about cheating, getting VAC banned then buying a new game again. VAC for example uses delayed bans (a few weeks) which makes doing that act possible. As such, it's not unnormal to think of some people to buy their games again. The majority of people are uninformed. They'd think like; this account is banned, gone. Have to open a new one. Whenever they can't login in such case. You're thinking of yourself, not the average majority.
That's different, that's people with too much money throwing it away for the chance to cheat. What I am saying is the average users who would quit because of their information being insecure would outweigh the number of people buying their games off of steam after they lose access to their account, especially if they contact steam to get it back and it fails. I'm not talking about people who got banned, I'm talking about honest people who don't cheat forgetting their information. If Valve doesn't help them get their account back, I doubt enough of them are going to purchase their stuff again to make this a valid scheme from Valve.
I'm not saying people wont buy their stuff again, I'm saying there aren't enough people who will to make Valve admit to their CC information even possibly being exposed when it wasn't. Seriously, I don't know where you come up with half of this. Even if it wasn't, and even if they say it MIGHT have happened instead of "it did" it's still a big deal and not something a company is going to admit to unless it REALLY happened or there is a risk of it having happened. I'm argueing against what looked like you saying Valve is over hyping this to the proportion of CC information being exposed so people buy more stuff from them, that makes no sense at all.
