The Witcher 2 Contains Secret Sauce To 'Catch 100% Of Pirates'

[digibucc]

that's the problem. so many people want to bring it down to piracy=theft, when there is so much more to it than that. if you want to thump your chest, sure that's fine - but if you actually care about the situation you have to recognize that simply saying pirates are thieves is not a solution.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

that is absolutely NOT a fact. what is it you don't get? if they would never have bought the game, the companies would never have made more money should they choose not to pirate. you are absolutely wrong, and completely disregarding that fact. at least recognize this point, please.

What is it you don't get? You're saying that if you paid your $50 that they wouldn't have $50 more. If piracy wasn't an option, you would quit gaming? Have fun with that, but I don't buy it for a second.

 

[Kreij]

YES FOR THE LOVE OF GOD YES
someone finally gets it

Well why didn't you post that sooner? We could have avoided all this repetitive bullshit and bitched about the non-existant refund policy on games.

 

[JustaTinkerer]

Well why didn't you post that sooner? We could have avoided all this repetitive bullshit and bitched about the non-existant refund policy on games.

+1 fantastic

 

[digibucc]

What is it you don't get? You're saying that if you paid your $50 that they wouldn't have $50 more. If piracy wasn't an option, you would quit gaming? Have fun with that, but I don't buy it for a second.

have you bothered to even read the posts you are responding to?

i do not pirate. steamcalculator:

Found 240 Games with a value of
$4136.61 USD

and that's just steam. not counting origin, d2d, impulse, and retail - as well as console games. i am not discussing the ethics of piracy, i am discussing the specifics of it's effects, and you are being disingenuous.

it's very simple, and you are obviously choosing to ignore the point: if someone would never have bought that individual game, pirating it does not equal a lost sale.

 

[pantherx12]

What is it you don't get? You're saying that if you paid your $50 that they wouldn't have $50 more. If piracy wasn't an option, you would quit gaming? Have fun with that, but I don't buy it for a second.

I go months and months without new games, I get them as occasional treats when money is good and I've got the time to play them.

You make it sound like games are an essential part of life.

Most people can go without

 

[Damn_Smooth]

have you bothered to even read the posts you are responding to?

i do not pirate. steamcalculator:

and that's just steam. not counting origin, d2d, impulse, and retail - as well as console games.

it's very simple, and you are obviously choosing to ignore the point:
if someone would never have bought that individual game, pirating it does not equal a lost sale.

If piracy wasn't an option, that person would more than likely have bought the game. That's how we did it in the old days and game sales were great.

 

[JustaTinkerer]

If piracy wasn't an option, that person would more than likely have bought the game. That's how we did it in the old days and game sales were great.

Nope wrong, if piracy wasn't an option I would have gone without.

Food and other such was a little more important, most pirates are skint, hence would not have got the game anyway and spent there time doing, perhaps, some other nefarious acts

 

[entropy13]

If piracy wasn't an option, that person who can afford the game would more than likely have bought the game. That's how we did it in the old days and game sales were great.

Fixed.

 

[digibucc]

If piracy wasn't an option, that person would more than likely have bought the game.

i would really love to know how you came to that conclusion. where is your data? because i for one am MUCH less likely to get something if it's not free. it's not like i had to get it either way, and just chose the free one. i never would have chosen to get it were it not free. hypothetically.
that person more than likely would buy fewer games. regardless, these are our opinions, they are not based on any kind of fact so for you to act as if they are is as i said, disingenuous.

 

[OneMoar]

Well why didn't you post that sooner? We could have avoided all this repetitive bullshit and bitched about the non-existant refund policy on games.

I did check a few posts back ......

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Nope wrong, if piracy wasn't an option I would have gone without.

Food and other such was a little more important, most pirates are skint, hence would not have got the game anyway and spent there time doing, perhaps, some other nefarious acts

Fixed.

There are so many games I want that I am going without that it's not even funny. But to assume that everybody who's pirating a game is doing it because of a lack of funds is preposterous.

 

[pantherx12]

There are so many games I want that I am going without that it's not even funny. But to assume that everybody who's pirating a game is doing it because of a lack of funds is preposterous.

Some people simply find it hard to justify spending what money they do have on games.

So they either go without or pirate.

 

[Damn_Smooth]

i would really love to know how you came to that conclusion. where is your data? because i for one am MUCH less likely to get something if it's not free. it's not like i had to get it either way, and just chose the free one. i never would have chosen to get it were it not free. hypothetically.that person more than likely would buy fewer games. regardless, these are our opinions, they are not based on any kind of fact so for you to act as if they are is as i said, disingenuous.

I'm basing my "opinion" off of history, when PC gaming was actually supported. Where are yours coming from?

 

[Easy Rhino]

lol stupid pirates!!! burn ya thieving mateys!!!!1

 

[JustaTinkerer]

There are so many games I want that I am going without that it's not even funny. But to assume that everybody who's pirating a game is doing it because of a lack of funds is preposterous.

Show me where I said everybody?

I dont have MW3, skyrim, rage (for pc) 3 years ago I would have had them pirated as I could not buy them, now I can afford 2 games a month I will buy.

Pirates dont harm the sales, pirates mostly would just never buy.

This is going in circles.....im dizzy

 

[Damn_Smooth]

Show me where I said everybody?

I dont have MW3, skyrim, rage (for pc) 3 years ago I would have had them pirated as I could not buy them, now I can afford 2 games a month I will buy.

Pirates dont harm the sales, pirates mostly would just never buy.

Then why were sales so much better before piracy became a trend?

You're getting dizzy? I have a shitload of people on my ass.

 

[Kreij]

I did check a few posts back ......

I believe you. My internet connection is crap and it's really tough to keep up with the posts in a hot thread.

I think that taking (or copying) something not intended to be yours is wrong, but that is an ethical discussion.

I truly believe that if people had the ability to get a reasonable refund on a game they did not like, they would be more likely to purchase it first as opposed to pirating it.
This of course, opens a whole 'nother can of worms about people buying then copying and then returning, but we really need to start somewhere to make the whole mess of purchasing computer/console games a little more palatable to all parties involved.

 

[pantherx12]

I'm basing my "opinion" off of history, when PC gaming was actually supported. Where are yours coming from?

You realise the time your referring to piracy was pretty popular right?

Floppy discs and then cds would simply be copied and given to friends.


Hell people pirated Atari ST games and that's not even a proper pc!


"Then why were sales so much better before piracy became a trend?

Because of consoles : /

 

[JustaTinkerer]

Then why were sales so much better before piracy became a trend?

yeah sales where so much better back in the day, lol

http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2...3-reaches-1-billion-in-sales-in-just-16-days/


Jeez I recorded ZX spectrum games on tape.....pirates are worse now?

 

[entropy13]

But to assume that everybody who's pirating a game is doing it because of a lack of funds is preposterous.

Over here at least, it's not preposterous. Retail is a monopoly (so people like me who saves up some money still gets shafted because of the utter lack of sale prices), and to use Steam you have to pretend you're American (typically what is done) and have a US$ account (which would make it even less likely for most of the population over here to get to Steam).

 

[Damn_Smooth]

You realise the time your referring to piracy was pretty popular right?

Floppy discs and then cds would simply be copied and given to friends.


Hell people pirated Atari ST games and that's not even a proper pc!

It existed, but it was nowhere near as popular as it is today.

 

[Maelstrom]

It existed, but it was nowhere near as popular as it is today.

Also much easier with the internet now (don't have to actually know the people to get the stuff).

 

[Easy Rhino]

if you don't pay for the game you play then you are a pirate. go die in a fire.

 

[pantherx12]

It existed, but it was nowhere near as popular as it is today.

PCs were less popular then as well


Something like ten pcs are sold per second at the moment, how many were sold a second back then?



Proportionately levels have stayed around the same, if not less people pirate proportionately now then they did then. Even though it's easier to do now : ]