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How many units will sell? Hmmmmm

You can almost smell the violation of human rights and the invasion of privacy here...

We all know this the only real way any company can catch so called "pirates" because everything any company has ever tried has been sledgehammered, within days in fact.

Now, I don't believe sending the ‘men in black’ round to people’s front doors is the right way to tackle this, but this company clearly does. What companies should be doing is lowering the price of their games, and stopping pirates at the same time! That way everyone wins, but will that happen… NO!

For anyone who has even an iota of common sense will know that these companies will never lower the price of their games, NEVER! The prices will only go up, as the working class are screwed for even more money.
 

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If you had any sense you would have seen that this game is called "The Witcher 2". The "2" indicates that it is the second game, thus there being a first. If you wanted an indication as to what it might have been like you would have picked up the first one for next to nothing in the bargain bins as it was going for around $5 at the time of number 2's release. That would have given you every indication about the story, the controls, and what the world of the Witcher is about. But instead you decided to fuck the very people that worked hard to provide you with an entertainment source and not pay for it. It does not matter that you "only got to the tutorial" you still should have paid for it. If you are that lazy, or that cheap to pay for the game then you should give up your right to play any game. You are an insolent fool, who quite frankly should revise your attitude. The game was around $30 on release, and if you couldn't afford it then, then you should have waited all of a month before it went down to $20-25.

Downloading a game on the pre tense that "it's my right to try it before I buy it" is never excusable. That's like going into McDonald's and taking a chunk out of a burger and walking out without paying because you didn't like it.

I have spent hundreds if not a $1000 dollar on games this year so your high and mightiness doesn't sway me at all. There is not ONE game on my HDD's that is not paid for. I certainly don't feel any regret or remorse for checking out one game without paying for it. Frankly seeing how CD Projekt is handling this I feel even less inclined to care. I don't make a habit to download games I make a habit of paying for them. So keep your personal attacks to yourself
 
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hi guys i am new here. i registered just to reply to this "factually wrong" post.
first of all let me say that the "technology" that this blog is bashing is not owned by CD projekt but by the legal company that has been hired by them and it is not something that has been sneakily installed on our computers by CD projekt. what they are saying is the legal company has some tech that can track the downloaders of witcher 2 torrents from torrent sites.

if CD projekt had installed something nasty then that would need constant internet connection but witcher 2 is DRM free. they even took the effort to remove DRM from non GOG copies. this post is factually wrong and should be considered as such
 

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You can almost smell the violation of human rights and the invasion of privacy here...

We all know this the only real way any company can catch so called "pirates" because everything any company has ever tried has been sledgehammered, within days in fact.

Now, I don't believe sending the ‘men in black’ round to people’s front doors is the right way to tackle this, but this company clearly does. What companies should be doing is lowering the price of their games, and stopping pirates at the same time! That way everyone wins, but will that happen… NO!

For anyone who has even an iota of common sense will know that these companies will never lower the price of their games, NEVER! The prices will only go up, as the working class are screwed for even more money.
Yeah, got it. +1 :)
 
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I have not read every comment, so it might have been said before:

This article is not in any way a news article!
It's a onesided comment of qubit about what he himself thinks is bad about the way cd project has chosen to deal with piracy.
You can offer your opinion in an additional post or even in an editorial if you like to, but please don't call this a news post because it just isn't.
There is nothing objective about this post and it doesn't deal with facts but with assumptions by the author.
 
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I have spent hundreds if not a $1000 dollar on games this year so your high and mightiness doesn't sway me at all. There is not ONE game on my HDD's that is not paid for. I certainly don't feel any regret or remorse for checking out one game without paying for it. Frankly seeing how CD Projekt is handling this I feel even less inclined to care. I don't make a habit to download games I make a habit of paying for them. So keep your personal attacks to yourself

If you spent that much on games, why did you not buy this one? What's $1035 compared to $1000?

Or are all your other games "try before you buy" too?
 

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I have not read every comment, so it might have been said before:

This article is not in any way a news article!
It's a onesided comment of qubit about what he himself thinks is bad about the way cd project has chosen to deal with piracy.
You can offer your opinion in an additional post or even in an editorial if you like to, but please don't call this a news post because it just isn't.
There is nothing objective about this post and it doesn't deal with facts but with assumptions by the author.

It certainly is a news post and I reported on some dodgy behaviour by this company - have a go at them for pulling this shit on their customers, not me for reporting it and giving some analysis on this situation. :rolleyes:

Anyway, there's a comments section which I subscribe to, so comments like this need to go there, please.
 

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If you spent that much on games, why did you not buy this one? What's $1035 compared to $1000?

Or are all your other games "try before you buy" too?

Nope I can count on one hand the amount of games I "tried" this year(3 to be exact). The Witcher 2 just happened to be one of them and the only one I never bought.
 

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Nope I can count on one hand the amount of games I "tried" this year(3 to be exact). The Witcher 2 just happened to be one of them and the only one I never bought.

I'll bet it would have pissed you off to buy a game you didn't enjoy, too? Yeah, companies should release demos like they used to, to help people decide. Reviews and YouTube only go so far and you have to physically play it to properly tell.

How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me.

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I'm gonna get flamed for this, aren't I? :laugh:
 
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Nope I can count on one hand the amount of games I "tried" this year(3 to be exact). The Witcher 2 just happened to be one of them and the only one I never bought.

Then again, why not pay for it? What's $1000 compared to $1035?

I'll bet it would have pissed you off to buy a game you didn't enjoy, too? Yeah, companies should release demos like they used to, to help people decide. Reviews and YouTube only go so far and you have to physically play it to properly tell.

How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me.

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I'm gonna get flamed for this, aren't I? :laugh:

:shadedshu

So someone who spends more money than the normal person on games is allowed to break the law for their own gain?


Right....
 
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I'll bet it would have pissed you off to buy a game you didn't enjoy, too? Yeah, companies should release demos like they used to, to help people decide. Reviews and YouTube only go so far and you have to physically play it to properly tell.

How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me.

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I'm gonna get flamed for this, aren't I? :laugh:

You're not entitled to trying anything before you buy it.

You got a problem with the current model? Vote with your feet (go and pester your local political representatives), your voice (vote for those who support copyright law change) and your wallet (do not buy a game if the company does not provide an adequate demo).

Downloading an illegal copy is copyright infringement as our laws (in most places, at least, it seems) are currently written. So it does not matter whether he has purchased 1,000 USD worth of games, or has not spent a single dime: He is a "pirate".

End of story.
 

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@Yukikaze

Indeed, there's a lot of games I don't buy because I'm not sure of them and I never download a dodgy copy of anything. I also bought Crysis 2 on Steam a while back, which came with undisclosed DRM and I forced Valve to refund me on that POS. Note that the POS refers to the DRM, not the game, which I really liked, so it proves that I stuck to my principles here.

Note that you can't get Crysis 2 on Steam any more, because of politics between Valve and EA.
 

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I'll bet it would have pissed you off to buy a game you didn't enjoy, too? Yeah, companies should release demos like they used to, to help people decide. Reviews and YouTube only go so far and you have to physically play it to properly tell.

How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me.

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I'm gonna get flamed for this, aren't I? :laugh:

OH I have bought more than a few stinkers this year. So yeah I get a little buy happy sometimes.

I am a bit of a "Steam Junkie"

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197976809289
 
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@Yukikaze

Indeed, there's a lot of games I don't buy because I'm not sure of them and I never download a dodgy copy of anything. I also bought Crysis 2 on Steam a while back, which came with undisclosed DRM and I forced Valve to refund me on that POS. Note that the POS refers to the DRM, not the game, which I really liked, so it proves that I stuck to my principles here.

Note that you can't get Crysis 2 on Steam any more, because of politics between Valve and EA.

That's great. We all have our principles and I definitely respect the people who hold to theirs.

However, my post was directed at the statement:
"How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me."

You have not addressed the criticism I've directed at that statement. Cheers!
 

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OMG we understand each other! I've got so many games I'll probably never get round to playing, lol. :eek:

Took me a while to stop gobbling up Steam sales as well. I own a ton of games I'll never even install, much less play :toast:
 
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I reported on some dodgy behaviour by this company -
That would have been the news post.
pulling this shit on their customers
That's the personal opinion part which belongs in an extra post.
have a go at them
Maybe I will some day. But only when I get proof of missbehaviour and not based on your personal assumptions.
Anyway, there's a comments section which I subscribe to, so comments like this need to go there, please.
If you point me the way to "there", I might do that ;).
 

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That's great. We all have our principles and I definitely respect the people who hold to theirs.

However, my post was directed at the statement:
"How anyone can suggest that someone who's spent $1000 on games such as yourself is a "pirate" is beyond me."

You have not addressed the criticism I've directed at that statement. Cheers!

The point is that INSTG8R has spent so much money on games that you can hardly accuse him of being a "pirate" because he downloaded a few games that he wasn't too sure about. Why should he have to spend all that money on them, just to realize that he doesn't like them? It boils down to my previous argument that the games companies should release a demo for every game to allow someone to make an informed decision, not hope to hook them with an untried product, which they may well not like. That's just f* greedy.

In my case with Crysis 2, if I'd been able to try a demo first, I would have noticed that it had that Solidshield or whateveritwas DRM and decided not to buy. As it was, it about a month of hassle and waiting to get my refund. That's not the way to treat your customers.

So yeah, if the games companies can play dirty tricks like this, then so can their potential customers. ;)
 
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The point is that INSTG8R has spent so much money on games that you can hardly accuse him of being a "pirate" because he downloaded a few games that he wasn't too sure about. Why should he have to spend all that money on them, just to realize that he doesn't like them?

Assuming someone downloads a few games that he is not sure about, he is a "pirate". There is no more to that part, simply because it is a statement of a fact, rather than opinion. The person doing that commits copyright infringement as per the definition of the law.

He doesn't have to spend all that money on them, he is free to exercise his choice and not buy a game if he is not sure about it. Computer games are not the only sphere of life where we have to make the choice between buying something or avoiding it because we are not sure about whether it is worth the price of admission. I see no reason why it should be any different.

Don't get me wrong: I agree with the need for demos and I agree with the fact that games are overpriced (I rarely if ever buy a game at launch: I buy them when they are on sale a year down the line. Other games I simply ignore). However, this does not place a so-called "pirate" on the high moral ground if he uses these (or similar) reasons to justify dodging the purchase in the first place. It does quite the opposite.
 
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System Name My pc
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No a bunch of other company's would be after me if i copied his computer as they would be under threat of going bankrupt.. Remember people do that too so does it make it right ?.

You realise if everything could be copied their would be no need for a monetary system right?
 
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LOL. This an act (or purely press release) of desperation. They don't know to manage a business and are resorting to threats. I know a giant entity that does the same thing and never has anyone else's interests in mind (govt).

Let them try this. It will be hilarious. Not only can they not afford the legal fees to sue everyone, they will be getting sued for it in the process.

Also, you can't get a name from someone's IP whose mac isn't registered to them :D
Best of luck to these bozos.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
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betya the code still will be hacked
 
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