Seagate Take A Leaf Out Of WD's Book, Offer Crummy ONE YEAR Warranties On Some HDD's

mediasorcerer · Dec 18, 2011

Never liked seagate drives, always went with wd, mostly no probs so far.

Not a very confidence inspiring move on sg,s behalf is it.

w3b · Dec 18, 2011

Terrible news, both WD and Seagate have done this

So what manufacturers are left with decent warranty periods while not charging an arm and a leg for them =/

techie81 · Dec 18, 2011

Crappy drives are crappy :/

nt300 · Dec 18, 2011

Here is a question and an answer. Both WD and Seagate have an increase amount of return rate via warranty. Well why is that? So they don't want to cover there own failed drives but instead have the consumer throw away the broken drive so they buy n new one. This my friends is Bullshit.
I just hope companies like Corsair and OCZ start pumping out stronger competition so both WD and Seagate can be tought a lesson on manners.

azizan said:
After huge demand of harddisk (shortage supply). They decided to make the new product line produce from those floods state . They wont care about the QC , coz the demand is too huge to bear. More parts will be ordered from China factory. So instead of giving you all high warranty , they reduce it to 1 year coz they know the new partner batch of parts will be problem soon or later.

my 2 cents

Don't confuse facts with your 2 cents please, because you are right on the money with this one and you say it very well indead.

Wrigleyvillain · Dec 18, 2011

This is like a price war only where the consumer gets the shaft instead. Obviously a much more appealing situation to the manufacturers.

qubit · Dec 18, 2011

Wrigleyvillain said:
This is like a price war only where the consumer gets the shaft instead. Obviously a much more appealing situation to the manufacturers.

That's just weird, but true. :shadedshu

Am* · Dec 19, 2011

So...where's the price drop to reflect this crap?

Still pisses me off that the prices have gone up, 4 DAYS before I was going to order 10 Samsung F4s...

If Seagate/WD are going to look into making this price raise permanent...I'll have to find another hobby, I guess...

djisas · Dec 20, 2011

Speaking of f4's, how good are they, haven't had a chance to try them, because Seagate is unreliable and wd is expensive...

radrok · Dec 20, 2011

If you want reliability you have to pay for enterprise class HDDs, that's it

djisas · Dec 20, 2011

I wouldnt dish 100$ for a drive that does the same a 35$ does just cause it lasts longer...
But i dont want a doa drive or something i know will eventually fail either, like the last one i bought, i knew it would fail and it did so in less than a couple hours (tx seagate and china)...
But it's not like im in the market for a drive either, so im just keeping up with the trend for when the need arises...
I do actually have a wd black and green and i have some trust in them but i still keep backups on a "external" TB f3, and 2 500GB seagates made in thai for less crucial operations and as workhorses...
I wanted to buy f4 bust there wasnt any yet last time...
But now no more samsung drives it seems...

Lazzer408 · Dec 20, 2011

radrok said:
If you want reliability you have to pay for enterprise class HDDs, that's it

+1

newtekie1 · Dec 20, 2011

radrok said:
If you want reliability you have to pay for enterprise class HDDs, that's it

Hardly, the last batch of 5 WD Enterprise drives that I bought had one come DOA, and another die after 4 months in use.

Enterprise drives aren't any different than desktop drives mechanically at this point.

Lazzer408 · Dec 20, 2011

newtekie1 said:
Hardly, the last batch of 5 WD Enterprise drives that I bought had one come DOA, and another die after 4 months in use.

Enterprise drives aren't any different than desktop drives mechanically at this point.

If your popping them all I'd look for other problems. I have 5 years on the 4 REs in my machine now and 10 years on the other 5 REs in my friends maching. If they weren't on a raid I'd check the hours. I'm kinda curious because my machine pretty much runs 24/7.

I guess we can all agree on one thing. They will all eventually fail so keep a backup. I backup my user documents daily and dump an image once a month.

qubit · Dec 20, 2011

Lazzer408 said:
I guess we can all agree on one thing. They will all eventually fail so keep a backup. I backup my user documents daily and dump an image once a month.

I tell you what, you need to back to more than cover just hardware failure - user error or other reasons are even more likely to hit. However, I see that you have your backup routine pretty much sorted. :cool:

My own regime, is to run raid 1 on separate data only drives, with a nightly backup over the network. I don't bother imaging my Windows drive, instead accepting the pain of losing it... (and I have, several times) :laugh:

Athlonite · Dec 20, 2011

radrok said:
If you want reliability you have to pay for enterprise class HDDs, that's it

Other than a different sticker on the HDD do you really believe there is some magical difference in HDD's that roll off the same assembly line :roll:

.....

Athlonite · Dec 20, 2011

Lazzer408 said:
If your popping them all I'd look for other problems. I have 5 years on the 4 REs in my machine now and 10 years on the other 5 REs in my friends maching. If they weren't on a raid I'd check the hours. I'm kinda curious because my machine pretty much runs 24/7.

I guess we can all agree on one thing. They will all eventually fail so keep a backup. I backup my user documents daily and dump an image once a month.

I've got 5yrs on two 80GB WD ( WD800JD) desktop drives in raid0 which runs 24/7 sofar without error so what's your point :rolleyes:

Lazzer408 · Dec 20, 2011

Athlonite said:
I've got 5yrs on two 80GB WD ( WD800JD) desktop drives in raid0 which runs 24/7 sofar without error so what's your point

That my experience is the enterprise drives haven't let me down yet.

I haven't researched it in awhile but does WD still offer 5yrs on the enterprise models? If anything maybe having the extra 4 years of coverage is worth the added expense. They are different though. Larger cache, burn-in testing at factory, different controller. They are faster then the consumer equivalent in my own tests. 80-90Mb/s vs. 120Mb/s of the RE (750gb tested). That was years ago though. Times have changed.

EDIT - RE4-GP at Newegg still states a 5yr limited warranty.

Western Digital RE4-GP WD2002FYPS 2TB 64MB Cache S...

newtekie1 · Dec 21, 2011

Lazzer408 said:
If your popping them all I'd look for other problems. I have 5 years on the 4 REs in my machine now and 10 years on the other 5 REs in my friends maching. If they weren't on a raid I'd check the hours. I'm kinda curious because my machine pretty much runs 24/7.

I guess we can all agree on one thing. They will all eventually fail so keep a backup. I backup my user documents daily and dump an image once a month.

The one being DOA wasn't possible anything on my end.

The second one died in the machine with the other 4 drive in it and the other 4 drives are still running fine to this day. The drive just dropped out of the array, and on a restart sputtered for a second then wouldn't spin up at all anymore.

I've had desktop drives running for years on end along side enterprise drives, mechanically they are the same. They are just marking them Enterprise drives, adding a year or two to the warranty, and up the price to make you pay for that extra warranty.

Lazzer408 · Dec 21, 2011

Your belittling the enterprise drives. They are not the same. They have more cache(2x), faster processing(2x), and faster data transfer to the platter (30-40Mb/s more). It's not just a year or two on the warranty either. It's 4 more years. 4 times longer then a consumer drive but not 4x the price.

Almost forgot. Faster error recovery. Enterprise = The only option for RAID. Consumer drives can and will drop out of the array during an error event.

Bluefox1115 · Dec 21, 2011

I've bought over $3000 in Seagate hard drives in the past 5 years. Sad to say, with this change in effect, I will no longer be purchasing Seagate hard drives for any builds or repairs I do.

Melvis · Dec 21, 2011

Smilez said:
seagates quality over the past 2 years has dropped significantly. I'm seeing way more fails of late. I have 5 seagates fail for every 1 WD. and love when I get the warranty replacement back and it's a "Certified Repaired" POS and not a brand new drive.

The industry needs to find a way to do TRIM on SSD within a RAID before I use them in anything other than notebooks. don't put anything on SSD that you want long term.

I suggest everyone watch this video about SSD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhihfJHIu0I&context=C3702828ADOEgsToPDskIyVhQrzE4Vb-uC0J-b0XRQ

I cant agree with you enough there, ive also found this to be very true.

Just glad they didn't drop the warranty on WD blacks few

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