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Taiwan Foundries Cut Prices

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Taiwan foundries are going to be cutting prices by 10 to 15% for wafers built on mature node processes. Since these wafers have lower production costs the foundries are passing on the savings. This move is to boost consumer confidence in building their inventory after a year of shaky ground in the U.S. and European markets. This according to DigiTimes.

Also DigiTimes is reporting despite slow demand for mature process manufacturing, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) continues to see orders heat up for advanced 28nm technology, according to sources at non Taiwan-based chip suppliers.

This news could mean that these same vendors that are getting a cut in overhead thanks to the foundries could pass on the savings to the end customer to boost revenue.



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I was just going to say that I hope this means a price drop for 6970's. If they released at $500, it would dominate the high-end segment until Kepler steps in (then who knows).
 

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Would be great if nVidia drops the price of 580 to ~$350 :) ( with this price cut and to counter 7970 sales )
 

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I love it when wafers drop in price.
 
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Would be great if nVidia drops the price of 580 to ~$350 :) ( with this price cut and to counter 7970 sales )

I'd not be surprised if they do exactly that..
 
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:eek: using the same joke twice?? :shadedshu I expected better from you man!! :p

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I am afraid, I think the middle man will profit more from this than the end consumer. I'll "buy" it when I see low prices. :)
 
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This sounds like a good thing for nVidia if all they have are 40nm to compete with AMD @ 28nm.
 
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This will be for 6*** stuff. and older
 
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Just an idea.

Can they produce a Graphic chip using 1 wafer?
And how much money they can make from a wafer with 18 or 30 inches size?
 
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Just an idea.

Can they produce a Graphic chip using 1 wafer?
And how much money they can make from a wafer with 18 or 30 inches size?

You can make a lot from one wafer.

So I think it's like D=450 mm and say S=389 mm² For a AMD 6970

How to figure d=diameter and target IC size [S, mm2]
 
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All this seems like to me is a way for AMD and NVIDIA to continue selling at current price levels and pocket the savings to improve their respective bottom lines. They both could certainly use it.
 
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