NVIDIA's New AA Algo is TXAA, Adaptive V-Sync and New 3DVision Surround Detailed

bear jesus · Mar 16, 2012

I am glad to see it will support 3 screens from a single chip but i do not know if i like the idea of the center display having a higher frame rate than the side displays when playing something that is pushing the card as the way it is described it makes me think it would be possible to have a situation where the center screen has a smooth frame rate yet the side displays are stuttering.

I really hope that is not possible or at least easily avoidable.

eidairaman1 · Mar 16, 2012

bear jesus said:
I am glad to see it will support 3 screens from a single chip but i do not know if i like the idea of the center display having a higher frame rate than the side displays when playing something that is pushing the card as the way it is described it makes me think it would be possible to have a situation where the center screen has a smooth frame rate yet the side displays are stuttering.

I really hope that is not possible or at least easily avoidable.

considering 30 FPS just to be playable and 60 to be Excellent or better

LAN_deRf_HA · Mar 16, 2012

So will this be forcible on all games? That's the one big advantage with MLAA, being able to go back and use it on old games.

bear jesus · Mar 16, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
considering 30 FPS just to be playable and 60 to be Excellent or better

The issue for me is i want to max out settings in DX11 games at 5040x1050 so i expect below 30fps to be a possibility.

I would assume though that it would not be done to an extent to be noticeable i just worry that if a card is pushed to its limit it may become an issue depending how it works but i have no idea, i hope the reviews will go in to some more detail on it or at least triple screen reviews.

robal · Mar 16, 2012

btarunr said:
Adaptive V-Sync which is sure to win gamers by the millions

Sounds to me like the best thing after sliced bread. I want it !

deleted · Mar 16, 2012

to be honest, i dont see the purpose of these more efficient, lower quality aa algorithms. my 570 can already max any game in 1080p 3d with more than 30fps per eye while forcing 16x msaa and 2x trssaa. gk104 should be more than capable of playing any current game with 2x or maybe even 4x ssaa. theres no reason to settle for anything less than the best.

and yes, i realize that at higher resolutions, it becomes much harder to maintain playable framerates with aa enabled, but at the same time, aa becomes less and less important as resolution increases. by the time we finally get 23 inch 4k screens, aa will be completely superfluous.

i apologize for the lack of punctuation, my shift key is broken.

angelo621 · Mar 16, 2012

i hope theres a benchies in triple monitors..
if the Green win in 5760X1080 res in dx11 max.. i think i will switch back to NV :toast:

Dent1 · Mar 16, 2012

angelo621 said:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-16/179b.jpg http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-03-16/179c.jpg

i hope theres a benchies in triple monitors..
if the Green win in 5760X1080 res in dx11 max.. i think i will switch back to NV

You spoke too soon. I believe btarunr made a mistake.

These is the Real Battlefield 3 benchmark screenshot. Performance is about the same within margin for error.

thematrix606 · Mar 16, 2012

Dent1 said:
You spoke too soon. I believe btarunr made a mistake.

These is the Real Battlefield 3 benchmark screenshot. Performance is about the same within margin for error.

You wish the 7970 did so well, it does not.

the54thvoid · Mar 16, 2012

He's simply reposting the original slide form the Chinese web site.

Crap Daddy · Mar 16, 2012

Dent1 said:
You spoke too soon. I believe btarunr made a mistake.

These is the Real Battlefield 3 benchmark screenshot. Performance is about the same within margin for error.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5830/1702470727834307124.png

It's 8xAA probably forced through CP (don't know) but it's not 4MSAA ingame. There you should see some diffrence.

Dent1 · Mar 16, 2012

thematrix606 said:
You wish the 7970 did so well, it does not.

Doesnt bother me. Happy with my twin 5850s

ATM. I'm not too impressed with the pricing of the 7xxx series, and knowing Nvidia's history the price of the 680 will probably give me a heart attack.

Edit:

thematrix606, I guess I was right btarunr just fixed the Battlefield 3 slide in the official thread.

btarunr said:
Fixed the Battlefield 3 slide.

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162498

micropage7 · Mar 16, 2012

after AA it looks nvidia got a nice improvement
i wonder every nvidia product will have this ability in the future from low to highend

eidairaman1 · Mar 17, 2012

bear jesus said:
The issue for me is i want to max out settings in DX11 games at 5040x1050 so i expect below 30fps to be a possibility.

I would assume though that it would not be done to an extent to be noticeable i just worry that if a card is pushed to its limit it may become an issue depending how it works but i have no idea, i hope the reviews will go in to some more detail on it or at least triple screen reviews.

I think only way to overcome that is multimonitor on separate boards so they are pulling the load evenly per monitor instead of just 1 card trying to pull the frames

bear jesus · Mar 17, 2012

eidairaman1 said:
I think only way to overcome that is multimonitor on separate boards so they are pulling the load evenly per monitor instead of just 1 card trying to pull the frames

But the only reason Nvidia could now be a viable option for me is the standardized support for more than 2 screens per single GPU card as i only want to use a single GPU for 3 screens to avoid SLI or crossfire issues.

My 6970 deals well with the job but does not have enough power so i would assume an overclocked 7970 would do it better but i am more than open to a 680 if it's suitable for my use.

THE_EGG · Mar 17, 2012

The guy's beard is epic.

RejZoR · Mar 17, 2012

I'm not quite sure i get the point of Adaptive V-Sync. Doesn't V-Sync only affect screen and framerate once framerate exceeds monitor refresh? I mean, below it doesn't even matter since screen tearing doesn't happen anyway. Or am i missing something here? The thing with laggy mouse was usually a problem of buggy V-Sync implementation and not the fault of V-Sync by itself...

semantics · Mar 17, 2012

RejZoR said:
I'm not quite sure i get the point of Adaptive V-Sync. Doesn't V-Sync only affect screen and framerate once framerate exceeds monitor refresh? I mean, below it doesn't even matter since screen tearing doesn't happen anyway. Or am i missing something here? The thing with laggy mouse was usually a problem of buggy V-Sync implementation and not the fault of V-Sync by itself...

v-sync it depends you get locked into less then desirable frame rates if you cant consistently enough hit the desired refresh rate.
with double buffing it's what say you start off at 60fps, then it goes to 30, 20, 15 so on and so on. The big gap between 60 and 30 is the main complaint of that. Although tripplebuffering solves that so you dont lost fps just get capped. Although ionno if that adaptive vsync is something really new or just marketing jive that goes along with the new really dynamic clocks for the card.

RejZoR · Mar 17, 2012

And why would it go down in steps? Wouldn't it be simply easier to use framerate limiter so the framerate would never exceed the refresh rate? So it doesn't really affect lower framerate, it just doesn't allow it to go beyond refresh rate.

eidairaman1 · Mar 17, 2012

bear jesus said:
But the only reason Nvidia could now be a viable option for me is the standardized support for more than 2 screens per single GPU card as i only want to use a single GPU for 3 screens to avoid SLI or crossfire issues.

My 6970 deals well with the job but does not have enough power so i would assume an overclocked 7970 would do it better but i am more than open to a 680 if it's suitable for my use.

i wouldnt hold my breath on this product myself honestly

Harlequin_uk · Mar 17, 2012

so in games with heavy physx load its a monster , and in games without its comparable to teh 7970...?

Prima.Vera · Mar 17, 2012

I don't understand. The nvidia CP shows FXAA option, while those 2 pics talks about TXAA...What's the deal??

Grings · Mar 17, 2012

I'm eager to see this adaptive vsync in action, seems forcing it in driver often does nothing nowadays, and if it does, you usually get input lag (found this with amd AND nvidia)

eidairaman1 · Mar 17, 2012

Grings said:
I'm eager to see this adaptive vsync in action, seems forcing it in driver often does nothing nowadays, and if it does, you usually get input lag (found this with amd AND nvidia)

u know it only locks the cards to max refresh rate supported by resolution. But still drops. It prevents graphical tearing though

erocker · Mar 17, 2012

Dent1 said:
You spoke too soon. I believe btarunr made a mistake.

These is the Real Battlefield 3 benchmark screenshot. Performance is about the same within margin for error.

http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/5830/1702470727834307124.png

One problem with that Battlefield 3 picture. There is no 8x AA option in game. :ohwell:

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