AMD Readies Two More FX Series Processors

[Norton]

They did this with Phenom 1 which was actually a Broken Part, Bulldozer is not so much broken as it is a server processor packed in a desktop socket. I dont see server market users complain about the parts, I mean to me seems BD is a heavy lifter for multithread but when it comes to everyday desktop use it cant be saturated with enough data to make use of its true performance. I see Piledriver being a major fix to BD arch bringing performance for the desktop user

FX chips multitask well- I'm crunching on my PC at the moment with all 6 cores @85%, have a dozen browser windows open, watching the news on my TV tuner, looking at some phot's/editing a screenshot, etc... I could do more but I don't have enough hands

Oh and the chip is running ATM between 40-46C on air@4Ghz with the fans set to quiet

IMHO FX ain't broke

As far as Piledriver- I do hope it's a grand success like Phenom II over Phenom I so I can pick up a couple of 1090/1100T's for my cruncher's on the cheap 6 months from now

 

[eidairaman1]

Piledriver will be the move I make honestly with a board that dont sacrifice PEG slots for the others, aka separate bandwidth channels. At Most Ill drop 2 video cards in

 

[devguy]

Not sure I really care about these chips. I think these AMD cpus make for a more interesting story. Quad core at 45w, octal core at 65w, on AM3+ sockets 2.7/3.7ghz (normal/turbo). The new Opty 165?

 

[eidairaman1]

Not sure I really care about these chips. I think these AMD cpus make for a more interesting story. Quad core at 45w, octal core at 65w, on AM3+ sockets 2.7/3.7ghz (normal/turbo). The new Opty 165?

maybe except u had to use FSB on the 165 which is a limiting factor since most use the multiplier anymore

 

[devguy]

maybe except u had to use FSB on the 165 which is a limiting factor since most use the multiplier anymore

I doubt these Optys will be multiplier unlocked, so you'll get to clock them using the reference clock just like the old Opteron 165. Besides, BlackEdition/FX/K unlocked multipliers are BORING! I like doing it the old fashioned way.

 

[eidairaman1]

I doubt these Optys will be multiplier unlocked, so you'll get to clock them using the reference clock just like the old Opteron 165. Besides, BlackEdition/FX/K unlocked multipliers are BORING! I like doing it the old fashioned way.

i prefer the combination of the 2. Slightly boosted FSB with a high multiplier.

You only get Opterons in G34/C32 anymore. No Such thing as an AM3+ Opteron

 

[Norton]

Not sure I really care about these chips. I think these AMD cpus make for a more interesting story. Quad core at 45w, octal core at 65w, on AM3+ sockets 2.7/3.7ghz (normal/turbo). The new Opty 165?

We have a news thread here on that one:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2578010&postcount=1

Started to read into it but got tied up in this thread

Looks very interesting- will definitely keep an eye out for some performance data on these.

 

[devguy]

You only get Opterons in G34/C32 anymore. No Such thing as an AM3+ Opteron

Check the links Norton and I posted. They both say these will be AM3+. The question is whether manufacturers like Asus/Gigabyte/etc will support Opterons with a BIOS update or not.

 

[eidairaman1]

We have a news thread here on that one:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2578010&postcount=1

Started to read into it but got tied up in this thread

Looks very interesting- will definitely keep an eye out for some performance data on these.

Oh I missed them myself, but from looks of it the 4200 and 6200 have turbocore too

 

[AvonX]

We have a news thread here on that one:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2578010&postcount=1

Started to read into it but got tied up in this thread

Looks very interesting- will definitely keep an eye out for some performance data on these.

well you can have more detail here: http://www.computerbase.de/news/2012-03/amd-stellt-opteron-3200-offiziell-vor/
Just use chrome to translate.

 

[Norton]

Check the links Norton and I posted. They both say these will be AM3+. The question is whether manufacturers like Asus/Gigabyte/etc will support Opterons with a BIOS update or not.

ASUS can I haz BIOS update? Please?

Really interested to see what an Opteron 3280 can do performance wise at 65w!

***EDIT @eidairaman- the 4200 and 6200 series aren't AM3+, just the 3200 series ***

 

[AvonX]

ASUS can I haz BIOS update? Please?

Really interested to see what an Opteron 3280 can do performance wise at 65w!

***EDIT @eidairaman- the 4200 and 6200 series aren't AM3+, just the 3200 series ***

If they release a bios update for my board i would definitely get one the 8 core on 65w tdp looks nice to me.
And these are build for 24/7 use.

 

[eidairaman1]

i know the 4200 and 6200 are not as those are c32 and g34 parts but what i was sayin is they do already have turbo core. 3200 series are verywell like 940/939 days.

and I do suspect a server niche for the 970/990 FX Lineup

and Avon the 940/939 Opterons were 24/7 365/366 use aswell

 

[AvonX]

I have an ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 board so i rushed and downloaded the beta bios cause it might work with that.
Even if they don't release a bios for my board i am almost sure it will work with a bios mod

 

[Norton]

i know the 4200 and 6200 are not as those are c32 and g34 parts but what i was sayin is they do already have turbo core. 3200 series are verywell like 940/939 days.

and I do suspect a server niche for the 970/990 FX Lineup

My error- thought you grouped them all together

I agree they do have that chance- we'll have to wait and see.

AMD can likely sell a lot of these chips for inexpensive servers if the price, performance, and power usage hits the right targets. The rest of us may be able to pick them up and turn them up to 11 ... sorry bout' the Spinal Tap reference I couldn't resist.

 

[AvonX]

i know the 4200 and 6200 are not as those are c32 and g34 parts but what i was sayin is they do already have turbo core. 3200 series are verywell like 940/939 days.

and I do suspect a server niche for the 970/990 FX Lineup

and Avon the 940/939 Opterons were 24/7 365/366 use aswell

So this will not work on my board?

 

[AvonX]

i think is still have a chance.
we will see.

 

[eidairaman1]

So this will not work on my board?

ok Socket C32 is 4100/4200 Series Opteron, Socket G34 is 6100/6200 Series Opteron which are LGA

AM3+ is FX, 3200 Series Opteron. Which is PGA
AM3 is Phenom 2 (Which can be put in a AM3+ Motherboard)

Never Put an AM2/AM2+ CPU in a AM3/AM3+ Motherboard
Never Put an AM3+ CPU in a AM3 Motherboard

Never put a C32 CPU in G34 and Vice Versa

 

[Norton]

So this will not work on my board?

It may or may not- all depends on how or if ASUS supports it on consumer boards. I would keep an eye out for BIOS updates, check support lists, forum posts, and reviews before buying anything

** EDIT- as eidairaman is saying, a 3200 series will fit in an AM3+ socket, AM3 and BIOS support is another matter ***

 

[AvonX]

well note that i have an am3 board.not am3+
it supports all current fx cpus.
now if that opteron is b2 stepping i still have a chance.
Or maybe i am just wrong

 

[Norton]

Probably best to move on over to the Opteron posting- sounds like we're done discussing the new FX revisions

 

[eidairaman1]

well note that i have an am3 board.not am3+
it supports all current fx cpus.
now if that opteron is b2 stepping i still have a chance.
Or maybe i am just wrong

If your motherboard does not have the Black Socket which is AM3+ You will not be able to run a FX or Even Opteron 3200 In it, you will bend the pins on the AM3+ Parts.

Just because the chipset states AM3+ Ready/Capable doesnt mean you have the right Socket, Check the socket color first, if its black you have a AM3+ Motherboard, if its white you have a AM3 Motherboard.

IF you have a 970FX, 990X, 990FX Chipset Your board has a AM3+ Socket on it

If You have a 870, 880, 890FX Chipset- You want to check the socket to see if its black or white, if its black you have AM3+ Motherboard

 

[AvonX]

I think you are wrong.
Check here: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A89GTD_PROUSB3/#CPUS

that is my board

 

[Norton]

If your motherboard does not have the Black Socket which is AM3+ You will not be able to run a FX or Even Opteron 3200 In it, you will bend the pins on the AM3+ Parts.

Just because the chipset states AM3+ Ready/Capable doesnt mean you have the right Socket, Check the socket color first, if its black you have a AM3+ Motherboard, if its white you have a AM3 Motherboard

He's probably OK- a number of AM3 boards support AM3+ chips... it will fit in the socket if the BIOS supports it but there may be other issues or features that aren't supported with AM3

 

[AvonX]

Exactly that is why i said a bios mod
But if one pin is disabled or something like that,no bios mod will help.
I don't know we will see.
But it will still work.
I am no expert.