Microsoft Announces Surface: New Family of PCs for Windows

[Ravenas]

Do you understand that most field reps want tablets at this point and this windows tablet will work SEAMLESSLY with 99% of companies infrastructure?

The iPad does this and is cheaper and less bulky.

Furthermore, this is more of an extremely overpriced laptop than a tablet.

 

[TheMailMan78]

No it doesnt. I know first hand there are intergration problems. As for "cheaper" show me an iPad with an i5 and 128gb SSD. No? Ok then.

 

[Ravenas]

No it doesnt. I know first hand there are intergration problems. As for "cheaper" show me an iPad with an i5 and 128gb SSD. No? Ok then.

I don't need to because I can find a windows laptop with the same specs at way better price than this metro piece of overpriced hardware...

It's not a tablet, it's an overpriced laptop that Windows fanboys get a hard on about.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

The iPad does this and is cheaper and less bulky.

Furthermore, this is more of an extremely overpriced laptop than a tablet.

Where are you seeing over priced. The prices haven't even been released yet. other then people predicting that the RT will be 400-500 and then Pro 800-1000.

And it is a tablet that can be used to do work on like a laptop.

Ipads and other tablets are nothing but toys. The OS and programs and functionality of those tablets do not work to well when you want to get work done in a seamless fashion. While the Surface will have a PC OS on it that all corporations have on their desktops and such that will work the same way so they can get things done. The Surface is built to allow people to get things done, while other tablets are just toys. I know so many people who have Ipads and such and use them only to play games and mess around on. It might sounds bias but its the truth.

I don't need to because I can find a windows laptop with the same specs at way better price than this metro piece of overpriced hardware...

It's not a tablet, it's an overpriced laptop that Windows fanboys get a hard on about.

Wait but you didn't show us that you could find that so called "better laptop." Because you won't be able to find a 3rd gen i5 proc with a 128gb SSD for under $1000

Also go use a touch screen laptop that can be put into tablet form and tell me that Metro UI is a PoS for it. Because honestly Metro UI yeah it sucks for desktops, but it is a great UI for tablets.

 

[Completely Bonkers]

If the prices are RT 400-500 and Pro 800-1000, then Apple doesnt have anything to worry about. It will not cannibalize the "iOS consumer" market.

However, if prices are RT 250-350 and Pro 450-550 then I'm shorting Apple stock.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

No it doesnt. I know first hand there are intergration problems. As for "cheaper" show me an iPad with an i5 and 128gb SSD. No? Ok then.

MacBook Air is the closest and it is not a tablet.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

MacBook Air is the closest and it is not a tablet.

yeah and its like what $2000, and probably doesn't even have a 3rd gen i5?

 

[TheMailMan78]

MacBook Air is the closest and it is not a tablet.

Exactly. The Air is the only thing even close to this. Microsoft made a tool. Not a toy.

Now I wait to be called a fanboy.

 

[Ravenas]

MacBook Air is the closest and it is not a tablet.

That took all but 2 seconds. These are somewhat high prices too due to the thin product line.

yeah and its like what $2000, and probably doesn't even have a 3rd gen i5?

1099$ for a macbook air with better gpu, better processor, and same ssd.

That's besides the point were talking about windows products.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

yeah and its like what $2000, and probably doesn't even have a 3rd gen i5?

$1000-$1500

I think they have been updated to include Ivy Bridge processors (I think HD 4000 is only in Ivy Bridge):
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html


Surface Pro has to be cheaper but the question is: how much?

 

[TheMailMan78]

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-06-20/197a.jpg

That took all but 2 seconds. These are somewhat high prices too due to the thin product line.



1099$ for a macbook air with better gpu, better processor, and same ssd.

That's besides the point were talking about windows products.

So you expect companies to buy Apples and install windows 8? When they could just buy a Surface in bulk for their reps with full support from Microsoft?

 

[Ravenas]

$1000-$1500

I think they have been updated to include Ivy Bridge processors (I think HD 4000 is only in Ivy Bridge):
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/specs.html


Surface Pro has to be cheaper but the question is: how much?

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120619PD210.html

 

[Ravenas]

So you expect companies to buy Apples and install windows 8? When they could just buy a Surface in bulk for their reps with full support from Microsoft?

The laptop I mentioned was an Acer. Please read before your Microsoft fanboy juices spur all over the keyboard.

FordGT was the one talking about the macbook air and I correct him on the price.

 

[TheMailMan78]

The laptop I mentioned was an Acer. Please read before your Windows fanboy juices spur all over the keyboard.

FordGT was the one talking about the macbook air and I correct him on the price.

Yeah I'm a Windows fanboy......Oh here look at this on my desk.

See you don't get it. This is a WORK TABLET. Reps want tablets now. Not laptops.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20120619PD210.html

I don't think that's right. Microsoft wouldn't even consider the Surface RT if they couldn't match or get under iPad's $500 price point. The Surface Pro price sounds about right.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

That first link is the 2002 Microsoft Surface "Unit" (which is a giant box where one side is a touch screen for installation in ATMs and the like)...not 2012/2013 Microsoft Surface. ...they really shouldn't have recycled that name.

 

[TheMailMan78]

You don't get it my friend:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee692038(v=Surface.10).aspx

is bigger in width and height than this:

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-intel-n5040/pd

Yeah a laptop. Great. Ok Ill try again........REPS DO NOT WANT LAPTOPS ANYMORE.

 

[Ravenas]

Yeah a laptop. Great. Ok Ill try again........REPS DO NOT WANT LAPTOPS ANYMORE.

Lol it is absurd to think that a rep would want something bigger than something else if they are focused on portability.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Lol it is absurd to think that a rep would want something bigger than something else if they are focused on portability.

Its not only about portability. Its about presentation. I can tell you have never worked in a cooperate environment.

 

[cadaveca]

You don't get it my friend:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee692038(v=Surface.10).aspx

is bigger in width and height than this:

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-intel-n5040/pd

But it's not a touchscreen?


I just today spoke to a multi-billion company(oil and gas) about remote deployment, and guess what software they want to run, and guess what hardware?

And guess what type of interface they wanted? TOUCHSCREEN.


No laptop has touchscreen. Because then it is a tablet. You keep coming up with failed alternatives to surface, because none of them are TOUCHSCREEN.

Why touchscreen? EASE OF USE.


Companies want to limit the functionality, to limit error, but at the same time, offer a wide variety of functionality that isn't limited by processing power. The Surface was designed with those characteristics in mind.


Yes, many companies, including healthcare, want tablets. TOUCHSCREEN TABLETs. And yes, many of them, right now, are using iPads. The number one complaint? LACK OF HORSEPOWER.


So, find a TOUCHSREEN LAPTOP for less than the Surface, as Mailman said, with similar specs, not alternatives that don't offer the same functionality.

 

[Ravenas]

I don't think that's right. Microsoft wouldn't even consider the Surface RT if they couldn't match or get under iPad's $500 price point. The Surface Pro price sounds about right.

You're right. The Surface has a 10.6'' screen which is bigger than the laptop I mentioned a larger keyboard. The laptop I mentioned was bulky too.

 

[Ravenas]

Its not only about portability. Its about presentation. I can tell you have never worked in a cooperate environment.

Lol please sir you have no idea about me so please don't even start to think you do.

 

[Ravenas]

Why touchscreen? EASE OF USE.

Lol windows 8 is easy to use???

 

[cadaveca]

Lol windows 8 is easy to use???

When customized to the needs of a user, yes, it is.

It is a good alternative to Windows7 for power users? NOPE. I never made that claim, but Windows 8 does have a very specific purpose in the market, and Surface very neatly targets part of the ecosystem that Windows 8 is all about.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Lol please sir you have no idea about me so please don't even start to think you do.

1. Don't double post.

2. The fact you keep bringing up laptops vs tablets shows me you are out of the loop. Most reps in the field are in sales. This is why they are IN THE FIELD. They don't need or want a laptop. They do very light data entry for PO's and such and need to be SEAMLESSLY connected to a corporate infrastructure. They also need to present well. This is something ALL tablets do leaps and bounds better then any laptop. If is was about being "cheap" Levono would have been out of business years ago.