ATI R600 will NOT launch this quarter!

[Namslas90]

I knew this was gonna happen back in january. Just been waiting for the official release.
The real reason is that there are not enough ATI chipset mobo's on the market, that will make the R600 series realy "shine". Mobo's makers didn't move fast enough for ATI/AMD, even though they had the specs they needed, they didn't see the market potential. Now that the reality has sunk in they are all scrambling to get the mobo's out. Look for Crossfire boards with an extra slot for physics cards in the new designs.

 

[Murasame]

This gives us all some extra time to save up even more cash for the R600. I may be able to get a XT now. Plus it looks as though they want cards in all stores, fully working drives for all platforms, and R600 chipset motherboards all ready and in stock for the launch. Which is a really good thing to hear.

 

[i_am_mustang_man]

can i just say that it rocks that w1zz just told us right after getting off the phone with ATI. breaking news for sure.

and on the news:
that sucks. we need competition for pricing, although nvidia is faux competing with themselves by introducing the 320 variant of the gts, but when crysis hits in june, the R600 better be out. If i was at all in a position of power with daamit, i would be on the phone non stop with crysis leaders to get them to bundle crysis with the R600. that'd be ill, and it would make people buy em together (like the 9800xt(?) w/ HL2). With both releases probably in June, it would be the most logical move, and hopefully drive away some of nVidias burst market share that they already have, and help equilibrate the competition. wait, this is my idea. as of here, ABOVE PARAGRAPH is ^(R) (that means trademarked, superscript that R in brackets). but seriously, anything else would be dumb.

damn delays

 

[WarEagleAU]

Good idea Mustang Man.

 

[Seany1212]

I dont see what everyone is complaining about, maybe by then nVidia will have there drivers right, just in time to see the enhanced R600 blow it out of the water, i bet ATI/AMD did this after they heard of the ''secret shaders'' on the G80, means they will be able to pwn nVidia when they bring this to market. Plus drivers should be perfect too

 

[hv43082]

Christ...more wait...and they better have more than 1 yr warranty on this new card. There goes my day...sigh!!! Out of depression I am going to buy some kick ass Patriot Ram to replace the OCZ POS RAM.

 

[C.Ash]

WTF! I built a god damn new computer around the fact that the R600 was coming out next month!!!!!! FU** YOU ATI! GIMME AN 8800 ; ;

I know EXACTLY what u mean.

Fuck ATI, this is too much.

 

[SK-1]

With this added delay,...the only way I can see it as being a positive is IF the price points are VERY VERY good.I also think the availability of DX10 games will increase their sales.
I really wonder if this strategy is good.

 

[magibeg]

This isn't so bad.... i was going to wait for the E6320's and the price drops anyway before i got my new computer and thats not happening until Q2. Also puts it that much closer to amd's new processor release so i may get to see if amd's chip is worthwhile before committing myself to anything.

 

[tkpenalty]

Look at nVidia and the 8800, DX10 is having issues. If AMD wants to take the time to make their product better then let them, unless you guys like buying shit that doesn't work out of the box coughcough8800coughcough.

It's just a video card, the world won't end.

No... Nvidia's 8800 can't even run DX10 properly without choking. The trailer was shot in a low res without AA or AF.

 

[Scavar]

I still havent see any information on teh trailer being low res with no AA or AF, but I havent looked.

On this, I can see it as both good and bad. By the time the R600 is out, nVidia will have their drivers, and most of the rest of their line up out. People are impatient, or have more money then they know what to do with at a certain point in time, myself as an example two months ago.

At the sametime, other then the few games, company of heroes, have DX10 patches, the DX10 games will just start coming out. Not to mention giving them more time to get things rolling on making it right and killing nVidia. Remember though don't get your hopes too high. This might as welll just be because they themselves are having problems. Maybe the R600 doesn't compete at all. Maybe it doesn't work, maybe it draws to much power gets overheated and blows up.


You have to take it in with the good and the bad. Personally, I would rather they release SOMETHING, in Q1.

 

[Athy]

I knew this was gonna happen back in january. Just been waiting for the official release.
The real reason is that there are not enough ATI chipset mobo's on the market, that will make the R600 series realy "shine". Mobo's makers didn't move fast enough for ATI/AMD, even though they had the specs they needed, they didn't see the market potential. Now that the reality has sunk in they are all scrambling to get the mobo's out. Look for Crossfire boards with an extra slot for physics cards in the new designs.

Hi i'm new here at TPU, but I was wondering, those mobo's based on the new R600 chipset (who aren't on the market yet I guess...?) are they really needed to get the R600 Videocard running in full glory? Or is a "normal" mobo with some PCI-e x16 slots and the X975/Ich7r chipset going to be enough to get the full potential out of the R600?

 

[Zubasa]

Hi i'm new here at TPU, but I was wondering, those mobo's based on the new R600 chipset (who aren't on the market yet I guess...?) are they really needed to get the R600 Videocard running in full glory? Or is a "normal" mobo with some PCI-e x16 slots and the X975/Ich7r chipset going to be enough to get the full potential out of the R600?

The new mobo they want is one that can bring out the full potential of R600 crossfire.

 

[Greek]

actually as much as i want the card to come out asap, i think its allrite for that card cuming out then, reason 1, give ppl more time to save up, and 2 should be the worlds best card, well only because they are putting some much work into this so hopefully something good should come out of this.

 

[AshenSugar]

yall, this is a good thing, unlike nvidia ati/amd are not rushing a card to market just to boost sales, they are making sure that the cards that come out will be more mature and less buggy, this is a good thing, its like back in the day when nvidia acctualy spent the time to make sure the tnt didnt suck, or the gf1 didnt suck.

nvidia rushed out the FX line and look where that lead?

nvidia rushed out the 8800/g80 and look what we have, over 6months and still no truely good drivers, to me this is sad when they put out beta hardware and beta drivers that are ment for a beta os(vista even now is really beta quility) and people lap it up because its "dx10 rated" i would hate to think what those people will do if it turns out that like the fx line the g80 cant do dx10 properly/well.


ati/amd have gotten alot of complaints about that new cooler everybodys seen pix of, this may very well be part of the reasiont he cards been delayed, to give them time to come up with something diffrent that dosnt looks so massive/oversized.

we wont see new versions of the chips by then it takes many months to draw those pretty pix on those shiny wafers, as such anything we see in q2 will be stuff thats already being made now, just diffrent packeging/cooling possably.

i will take a MATURE and READY product with DECENT/GOOD/GREAT drivers later over a beta product with beta drivers any day.

 

[pumbertot]

lol @ the fanboys, its obvious who you are. personally ive gone ATI to Nvidia to ATI to Nvidia, I always go with the best card available at the time. The only way cards will consistantly improve is by this tug-of-war that goes on between the 2 companies. If R600 is the best card on its release, I will buy it for sure. But fanboys STFU G80 is a great card, if you cant admit that then you truelly are sad. Who cares about Vista FFS. Its faster than my X1950XT crossfire was.

my 10c worth:

The Negative view of R600

1. We dont yet know how good, or bad, R600 is so nobody knows if its going to blow the G80 away yet. Also the 75W higher power consumption doesnt make good reading. The drivers might blow on launch.

2. We also dont know what Nvidia has up its sleave, G90 could well be on the market at that time but if not certainly a good chance of G80 GX2 card which I think would blow R600 away.


The positive view of R600

1. G80 runs like crap as it cant support Vista well, afterall Vista is the latest OS so Nvidia suck. Therefore by waiting ATI are much better because at least there product will be fully compatible.

2. Although nobody likes to wait, it could be a good thing as R600 will blow G80 away, Nvidia wont have another offering to compete with it and the prices will be much more competitive.

Take your pic, personally im waiting untill the release to make comment on which is better. And tbh it should be MUCH better if its released to the market 8 months after G80.

 

[y eye]

..stroked v. to pass the hand gently along the surface of..

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stroke n. an act or spell of stroking
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You have been stroked Mr. W1z.
It seems like more of the same smoke and mirrors..."R600 Fiasco".
.y

 

[Namslas90]

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stroke n. an act or spell of stroking
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You have been stroked Mr. W1z.
It seems like more of the same smoke and mirrors..."R600 Fiasco".
.y

Yeah, like we believe you y eye!!