AMD Readies Trio of Athlon II X4 Processors in FM2 Package

Dent1 · Jul 27, 2012

baggpipes said:
Why get Athlon II at that price... Bulldozer would be way better... FX 4100 only $100

Nah it won't be better. These new Athlon II's are Trinity based on Piledriver. So it'll be clock for clock faster than Bulldozer. The Trinity APUs are already faster than Bulldozer.

baggpipes · Jul 27, 2012

seronx said:
The L3 has no prefetching. L2 <-> IMC not L3 <--> IMC.

The L3 is only there for dedicated cache(L2 overfills?) and snooping?(I think that is what it is called, aka HT Assist) and any gains by having L3 are overshadowed by using internal PCI-E Links.

So L3 doesnt help gaming?

baggpipes · Jul 27, 2012

seronx said:
Add the fact Trinity adds SLI wooooo! Integrated PCI-E goodness....

The GPU is disabled in these chips...

seronx · Jul 27, 2012

baggpipes said:
So L3 doesnt help gaming?

Not that much...if you were doing gaming and something else maybe it will help but I haven't really tested it out. (I haven't checked other peoples benchmarks and did a comparison of all)

baggpipes said:
The GPU is disabled in these chips...

The SLI is a board feature not a CPU feature... A85H/X boards introduce Nvidia SLI

Dent1 · Jul 27, 2012

baggpipes said:
So L3 doesnt help gaming?

It depends on the architecture of the processors in question. I don't think L3 significantly improves gaming performance.

Look at the AM3+ Athlon II X4 645 without L3 compared to the Phenom II X4 945 with L3 cache. In gaming the separation is between 4-15 FPS depending on the game. That isn't a big improvement.

Also in some games like Dirt 2 L3 cache can decrease performance.

But really who knows? Because the Trinity might be even more or even less sensitive to L3 cache than deneb. Lets wait and see.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Athlon_II_X4_645/10.html

de.das.dude · Jul 27, 2012

techtard said:
Some people don't need absolute maximum performance from their PCs. An Athlon is fine for the majoprity of PC users who surf the web, watch Youtube, do Facebook and check their e-mail.
This isn't crap just because you need the latest and greatest tech.

How does socket FM2 stack up against AM3/3+?

^ this exactly. i have seen people assembling all sort of expensive shit just to surf the et, do facebook, watch HD movies and play famville or MW2 on the net :/

_Zod_ · Jul 29, 2012

So I assume these are Trinity cores (bulldozer 1.5)? They better be priced substantially less than their APU counterparts or clocked significantly higher.

de.das.dude · Jul 29, 2012

baggpipes said:
So L3 doesnt help gaming?

baggpipes said:
The GPU is disabled in these chips...

if you notice the speed of l3 on amds, they are pretty much same as the ddr3 memory speeds. so i dont think it helps much.

Andy77 · Jul 30, 2012

de.das.dude said:
^ this exactly. i have seen people assembling all sort of expensive shit just to surf the et, do facebook, watch HD movies and play famville or MW2 on the net :/

If they has the dough... but overall you might think that these people won't upgrade yearly like we do, they buy and use for 4, 5 years. It's that time-frame which makes some parts obsolete, or slow performing.

_Zod_ said:
So I assume these are Trinity cores (bulldozer 1.5)? They better be priced substantially less than their APU counterparts or clocked significantly higher.

Substantially?... well, Athlon FM1 + a better discreet graphics is a little bit more as its Llano counterpart where I'm from. It just allows you to switch the graphics for something better, a mid-range probably, if what Llano has isn't enough while subtracting the cost of onboard GPU.

Dent1 · Jul 30, 2012

Andy77 said:
If they has the dough... but overall you might think that these people won't upgrade yearly like we do, they buy and use for 4, 5 years. It's that time-frame which makes some parts obsolete, or slow performing.

Our perception of slow is different for the average user. My mother couldn't tell the difference between a single core sempron and a multi core Athlon II X4.

SIGSEGV · Jul 30, 2012

Dent1 said:
Our perception of slow is different for the average user. My mother couldn't tell the difference between a single core sempron and a multi core Athlon II X4.

also my father couldnt tell the difference between an amd phenom x4 955 running default and an intel i7 2600k clocked @4.5Ghz :laugh:

techtard · Jul 30, 2012

For most of my daily tasks, switching from a Phenom II w/ a sata 2 SSD to an i5-2500k @4.8 ghz w/ a sata 3 SSD there is very little perceptible difference.

In fact, I only really see a noticible diffference in CPU bound games.

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