Windows 8 Gets "Overwhelmingly Negative" Response from Vendors, Expectations Plummet

btarunr · Oct 15, 2012

An analyst with Topeka Capital, who was touring Asia, meeting sources among supply chains, brings bad news to Microsoft investors. Analyst Brian White notes that the sentiment (among vendors and parts of the supply chain) about Windows 8 remains "overwhelmingly negative." Expectations from Microsoft's new client operating system plummet, as vendors don't see much activity following the October 26 launch.

"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8, and further follow through is likely in November, we were warned of idle facilities in December," notes White. "One of our contacts does not expect Windows 8 to be material until the second-half of 2013," he added. In related news, the industry is also reeling from a disappointing reception from Intel's 2011-12 pet project in the client computing space, Ultrabook. "...the enthusiasm around the Ultrabook ramp has also deteriorated as the cost structure remains too high under Intel's specifications," White notes.

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Phusius · Oct 15, 2012

2500k and Windows 7 and my 7950 until late 2014/early 2015

:toast:

Prima.Vera · Oct 15, 2012

showing off much? -^

Phusius · Oct 15, 2012

Prima.Vera said:
showing off much? -^

Not at all... I worked over time at my job to pay for my rig. It's not that high end... just saying I am happy Windows 7 is still going to be on top. :confused:

Liquid Cool · Oct 15, 2012

"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8"

Meanwhile...back in reality, I hope you guys are taking advantage of the sales in laptops...I've never seen sales this good.

If you're paying more than 325 for a Core i5...you're not looking hard enough.

Best,

LC

P.S. Those who relish in the release of Windows 8...fell for a pretty small piece of cheese. A signal of Communism on a blue plate. Nothing less, nothing more.

Easy Rhino · Oct 15, 2012

Liquid Cool said:
"Although October is expected to be the sweet spot for the notebook ramp for Windows 8"

Meanwhile...back in reality, I hope you guys are taking advantage of the sales in laptops...I've never seen sales this good.

If you're paying more than 325 for a Core i5...you're not looking hard enough.

Best,

LC

P.S. Those who relish in the release of Windows 8...fell for a pretty small piece of cheese. A signal of Communism on a blue plate. Nothing less, nothing more.

derp. windows 8 is faster than windows 7 for all software. get a start menu replacement and you have yourself the best OS microsoft has created.

Jstn7477 · Oct 15, 2012

I don't get why everyone has their panties in a twist over Windows 8, or how an operating system can be "a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production." (to a comment above.)

If the user interface never changed, we'd still be using something like this:

Did I mention that I typed this using my laptop that is running Windows 8? It's not that difficult to use.

BigMack70 · Oct 15, 2012

Windows 8 offers no reason to upgrade for desktop users and offers many reasons to stay away if you're already running Windows 7.

Easy Rhino · Oct 15, 2012

BigMack70 said:
Windows 8 offers no reason to upgrade for desktop users and offers many reasons to stay away if you're already running Windows 7.

you don't think a faster OS is a reason to upgrade?

tacosRcool · Oct 15, 2012

Jstn7477 said:
I don't get why everyone has their panties in a twist over Windows 8, or how an operating system can be "a classless, moneyless, and stateless social order structured upon common ownership of the means of production." (to a comment above.)

If the user interface never changed, we'd still be using something like this:
http://img.techpowerup.org/121015/Windows10.png

Did I mention that I typed this using my laptop that is running Windows 8? It's not that difficult to use.

Some sensible people here! Technology evolves and people don't like change. It pisses me off that everybody hates it for no good reasons. Like I said in another post: I can look at the front cover of a book or read the first chapter of a book and says its crap is not a fair evaluation of the book. Why is everybody doing it to Windows 8? I think its a great system (I'm using the consumer preview right now) though it took me about 20 minutes to get used to the interface. After that it started to come naturally. Great system and I will be upgrading from Home Premium and Ultimate to Windows 8 Pro.

Nordic · Oct 15, 2012

Some odd comments above...

I don't find the negative response surprising. There is a lot of hate from the geeky consumer, hate from the game developers, and so on. Dell is keeping win7 as an option.

It may be faster but only marginally. It does use less resources but only marginally. It does have some nice little background improvements. I could keep going but for me it just is not enough for an upgrade.

@easyrhino - Sure. We can install a new start menu if we so wanted. How many average joes know that.

Easy Rhino · Oct 15, 2012

james888 said:
Some odd comments above...

I don't find the negative response surprising. There is a lot of hate from the geeky consumer, hate from the game developers, and so on. Dell is keeping win7 as an option.

It may be faster but only marginally. It does use less resources but only marginally. It does have some nice little background improvements. I could keep going but for me it just is not enough for an upgrade.

@easyrhino - Sure. We can install a new start menu if we so wanted. How many average joes know that.

anyone who can google can know about it and any average joe can google.

Dos101 · Oct 15, 2012

Well that hasn't stopped people from pre-ordering it:

http://www.wpcentral.com/windows-8-preorders-dominate-amazon-impresses-apple-fans

3870x2 · Oct 15, 2012

Two reasons I will not upgrade:

1. I never ran Windows Mobile as a desktop computer, and don't plan to start.
2. Waste of money as a windows 7 user.

I figure that windows 8 support will last longer than windows 7 support, but probably not for a very long time.

Fourstaff · Oct 15, 2012

Easy Rhino said:
any average joe can google.

I have bad news for you ...

Easy Rhino · Oct 15, 2012

fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.

Fourstaff · Oct 15, 2012

Easy Rhino said:
fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.

TPU users, no problem. Average joe, I am not so sure.

Drone · Oct 15, 2012

3870x2 · Oct 15, 2012

Easy Rhino said:
fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.

I currently have a VM at my work of windows 8 running. It didn't take me long to notice that desktop users were not priority when they built this operating system.

It isn't that we couldn't get the start menu, it is that we had to in the first place.

In short, it is the principle of the matter.

PopcornMachine · Oct 15, 2012

There is no need for touch screen on a desktop system.

Maybe it's a great OS for tablets, but nothing more than that. I guess they are scared of Apple's interface and think they can take that market away from them. Good luck.

Microsoft is trying to trick/force/cajole people into thinking they need touch screen desktops when they don't.

Would have thought they learned their lesson with the whole Vista debacle, but I guess not.

Nordic · Oct 15, 2012

Easy Rhino said:
fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.

Some just lack faith in average joe, like myself. Maybe I am just to cynical in that regard.

We are backwards?! In terms of myself, it is not a worthwhile upgrade. I have many arguments as to why it is better than windows 7. I have lurked the win8 club. I have read about what is new. I even played with windows 8 rt a little while. There just is not enough for me to upgrade. No game performance increases. All the pros of windows 8 are just so marginal to me.

3870x2 · Oct 15, 2012

james888 said:
Some just lack faith in average joe, like myself. Maybe I am just to cynical in that regard.

We are backwards?! In terms of myself, it is not a worthwhile upgrade. I have many arguments as to why it is better than windows 7. I have lurked the win8 club. I have read about what is new. I even played with windows 8 rt a little while. There just is not enough for me to upgrade. No game performance increases. All the pros of windows 8 are just so marginal to me.

Thats kinda the way I feel. Can you get the upgrade, but do a full install if you currently have 7 installed? I would guess so, but im not sure.

I will say that as a virtual machine, windows 8 is slow as hell (im not talking about the graphics, those are actually just fine)

I am sure the reason it is fasters is because of the things they cut out for tablet and phone use.

PopcornMachine · Oct 15, 2012

Easy Rhino said:
fine, stick with your older and slower operating system. it took me 5 minutes to find a start menu, install it and have it working. tpuers should be ashamed of themselves for being so backwards.

Not sure why you feel you need to attack people over this. :confused:

And not sure why you are happy to use an OS you had to fix out of the box.

I don't find Win 7 to be slow. Just another argument pulled out of nowhere. I would be ashamed if I said something like that.

MeanBruce · Oct 15, 2012

Prima.Vera said:
showing off much? -^

That’s not showing off. This is showing off:

Maximus V Extreme 3770K 4.8Ghz Dominator GT 2133Mhz, extended heat sink fins

Less than 10db auditory output, 27C CPU idle with H100

...and you should see my girlfriend, oh my.

Nordic · Oct 15, 2012

3870x2 said:
Thats kinda the way I feel. Can you get the upgrade, but do a full install if you currently have 7 installed? I would guess so, but im not sure.

I will say that as a virtual machine, windows 8 is slow as hell (im not talking about the graphics, those are actually just fine)

I am sure the reason it is fasters is because of the things they cut out for tablet and phone use.

Yes you can do a clean install from an upgrade.

@meanbruce - if you are going to show off, why not show above the waist(gpu) also.

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