Intel Announces 2nd Gen. Thunderbolt with Increased Bandwidth

btarunr · Apr 10, 2013

At the ongoing Intel Developer Forum (IDF) 2013 event in Beijing, Intel announced second-generation Thunderbolt specification. Pin and plug-compatible with existing Thunderbolt devices, the second-generation Thunderbolt doubles bandwidth over its predecessor, offering devices an enormous 20 Gb/s of bandwidth, four times that of USB 3.0 SuperSpeed. The bandwidth enables users the ability to transfer uncompressed 4K Ultra-HD video without causing display to lag.

To back the specification, Intel announced the "Falcon Ridge" line of Thunderbolt host controllers, mass production of which will commence by late-2013, going into 2014. In addition, the company launched two "Redwood Ridge" host controllers, DSL4510 and DSL4410. The two add DisplayPort 1.2 capability when connecting to native DP displays, improve power management, and reduce platform BOM cost.

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FordGT90Concept · Apr 10, 2013

All they need to do now is make it cheap and put it on every motherboard sold.

racedaemon · Apr 10, 2013

I remember there was talk about bringing data and power on the same cable. I guess we have no luck with Thunderbolt or USB 3.0 at this moment. It would be really nice to connect a monitor with a single cable.

Also i expect Thunderbolt to come standard with mainstream Haswell motherboards as Intel is waving it all around. Otherwise this looks like an Apple commercial.

TheGuruStud · Apr 10, 2013

racedaemon said:
I remember there was talk about bringing data and power on the same cable. I guess we have no luck with Thunderbolt or USB 3.0 at this moment. It would be really nice to connect a monitor with a single cable.

Also i expect Thunderbolt to come standard with mainstream Haswell motherboards as Intel is waving it all around. Otherwise this looks like an Apple commercial.

It's called Lightning Bolt, but AMD needs to get their ass in gear.

A dock may not sound pleasant, but it's the only way to distribute those kind of power requirements.
I think you will be out of luck powering a monitor with anything of the sort.

EarthDog · Apr 10, 2013

FordGT90Concept said:
All they need to do now is make it cheap and put it on every motherboard sold.

+1. So useless right now.

racedaemon · Apr 10, 2013

TheGuruStud said:
A dock may not sound pleasant, but it's the only way to distribute those kind of power requirements.
I think you will be out of luck powering a monitor with anything of the sort.

I was thinking more about desk clutter on a desktop computer. I understand why a laptop would have problems powering larger peripherals but a desktop should be there already. I remember reading the specs of USB 3.0 at it's inception and it stated something about increased power out of the connector and special cables for that increased power. Something on the line of 17W or 20W, i don't remember exactly.

Steven B · Apr 10, 2013

TB i still way to expensive to put on every board. Just the stuff you need to put it on a board costs a lot. For instance you will need a VR just for the TB controller, then you ned some MUXs for voltage for the cables, as well as more MUX for DP dignals and such. There are a lot of chips, and muxes.

EarthDog · Apr 10, 2013

Boards arent that pricey with it on there (You can get one for $180, maybe less), it's the devices it attach to that are, for the most part, brutally expensive.

Prima.Vera · Apr 10, 2013

To bad is so utterly expensive. USB 3.0 is the best so far.

Frick · Apr 10, 2013

FordGT90Concept said:
All they need to do now is make it cheap and put it on every motherboard sold.

EarthDog said:
+1. So useless right now.

Also make stuff that actually use it.

EarthDog · Apr 10, 2013

Oh its out there... as I said its just too damn expensive.

Frick · Apr 10, 2013

EarthDog said:
Oh its out there... as I said its just too damn expensive.

Well no, not really. Yes stuff exists, but it is bloody rare. Proper docking stations I think I can count on one hand.

EarthDog · Apr 10, 2013

Your mom must have drank some irradiated water as at newegg only I can count 8 external HDD's...

Just having fun Frick... the items are out there, but not a lot of them and they are pricey as hell.

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