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lol...Piledriver is nice and all but really...clocking it up like this and charging insane prices is not smart. It is not $500+ worth of performance. I got my 8320 at 4.5Ghz and love it but anything over $300 for 5Ghz is stupid due to the IPC disadvantage. You're relying on stupid customers and fanboys to sell a subpar product.

I'd have understood this if it was Steamroller or new tech to try and ride hype but Piledriver, come on.
 
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lol...Piledriver is nice and all but really...clocking it up like this and charging insane prices is not smart. It is not $500+ worth of performance. I got my 8320 at 4.5Ghz and love it but anything over $300 for 5Ghz is stupid due to the IPC disadvantage. You're relying on stupid customers and fanboys to sell a subpar product.

I'd have understood this if it was Steamroller or new tech to try and ride hype but Piledriver, come on.

Id say the price and tdp aim these at the ln2 crowd or at least phase change as most would only pay this much if their Is more to get ie oc potential.
 
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$250 for cherry picked overclocking chip would have been ok, but this is just a joke. Being limited edition run it makes a little more sense, but still.
 
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Insane pricing. Unless there's more to them than just oc'ing previous chips, and I seriously doubt that.
 
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The price is a bit ridiculous considering the fact that they don't hold the crown for fastest CPU's on Earth at the moment...

Never stopped Intel with their Pentium 4 Extreme Edition.

Seems like double standards to me.

PS. is pcsuperstore.com a legitimate store? Looks like a site somebody with limited web development skills built on a weekend. I won't take the price quoted seriously until I see it on Newegg or Tiger Direct or somewhere credible.
 
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Never stopped Intel with their Pentium 4 Extreme Edition
Except that Intel jumped from the burning building that was NetBurst at the earliest opportunity.
PS. is pcsuperstore.com a legitimate store? Looks like a site somebody with limited web development skills built on a weekend. I won't take the price quoted seriously until I see it on Newegg or Tiger Direct or somewhere credible.
A (very) quick Google says that a fair amount of the 850+ customer reviews at resellerratings.com seem positive, as well as an A- rating with the BBB. Legitimate enough ?
 
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Never stopped Intel with their Pentium 4 Extreme Edition.

This chip will be the next P4EE, unless this pricing is just an etailer trying to rip some folks off :slap:
 
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The price is a head scratcher, maybe the retailer (or AMD) is trying to catch the clueless consumers who buy 'the best' based on price.
 
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LAL they removed those preorders. :roll:
 
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Except that Intel jumped from the burning building that was NetBurst at the earliest opportunity.?

Really? The net burst architecture was around from 2000 - 2006 spanning the entire Pentium 4, Celeron based Pentium 4 and Pentium D family. Almost six years is not the earliest opportunity.

One rule for Intel, another for AMD.



A (very) quick Google says that a fair amount of the 850+ customer reviews at resellerratings.com seem positive, as well as an A- rating with the BBB. Legitimate enough ?

I'm from the UK and never heard of PC Super Store.

The website looks like a kid designed it, I wouldn't buy from them.

I guess now their legitimate, is this AMD's RRP or are they cashing in on enthusiasts and low stock to make money?
 
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I think its safe to say it was some fake... :laugh:
 
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That price is speculation and uncomfirmed, no sense in getting all sandy about it.
Even if they did price it that high, there is a very clear reason for pricing it in such a way, we're just not the customers that see the same value in it that others do.
 
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That price is speculation and uncomfirmed, no sense in getting all sandy about it.
Even if they did price it that high, there is a very clear reason for pricing it in such a way, we're just not the customers that see the same value in it that others do.

*Ahem* the price WAS that high. They removed the preorders a a while ago, remember? Shortly after this was posted.
 
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Really? The net burst architecture was around from 2000 - 2006 spanning the entire Pentium 4, Celeron based Pentium 4 and Pentium D family. Almost six years is not the earliest opportunity.

One rule for Intel, another for AMD.
And Bulldozer has been in development for six years. All that goes to prove that the lead-in time for architectures runs to many years. Intel didn't just design, tape out, debug/validate, and release the successor to NetBurst in 2006 - the original concept dates from 1999, and the core design from 2003 iirc.
 
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Except that Intel jumped from the burning building that was NetBurst at the earliest opportunity.


And Bulldozer has been in development for six years. All that goes to prove that the lead-in time for architectures runs to many years. Intel didn't just design, tape out, debug/validate, and release the successor to NetBurst in 2006 - the original concept dates from 1999, and the core design from 2003 iirc.



New technology always requires time to develop.

My argument was that Bulldozer microarchitecture was only released from October 2011, about 1.5 years ago.

Whereas Intel Netburst architecture was actively around for almost 6 years.

So to say Intel moved from Netburst at the earliest opportunity is incorrect and misleading.

You expect AMD to move from the Bulldozer microarchitecture after 1.5 years but its OK for Intel to wait 6 years with Netburst?
 
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You expect AMD to move from the Bulldozer microarchitecture after 1.5 years but its OK for Intel to wait 6 years with Netburst?
By the time AMD's Excavator launches (assuming AMD keep to their launch schedule :ohwell: ) the basic Bulldozer µarch will have been in available in retail for 4 years....and that's assuming that Excavator is replaced immediately by a succeeding µarchitecture. Figure a year for Excavator and a second year for a tweaked revision and you're at six years.

If you are under the impression that the Bulldozer µarch is not long for this world (i.e. all the talk of Steamroller and Excavator is bullshit), then why aren't AMD talking up an x86 alternative. After all, this is a company that spent the four years before BD's launch telling anyone who would listen that BD was going to clean Intel's clock. :roll:
 
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By the time AMD's Excavator launches (assuming AMD keep to their launch schedule :ohwell: ) the basic Bulldozer µarch will have been in available in retail for 4 years....and that's assuming that Excavator is replaced immediately by a succeeding µarchitecture. Figure a year for Excavator and a second year for a tweaked revision and you're at six years.


There is no denying that the Bulldozer Microarchitecture may be around for at least 6 years. No different from the six years we had of Netburst. Neither architecture will be exit at the earliest opportunity as you said.


If you are under the impression that the Bulldozer µarch is not long for this world (i.e. all the talk of Steamroller and Excavator is bullshit), then why aren't AMD talking up an x86 alternative. After all, this is a company that spent the four years before BD's launch telling anyone who would listen that BD was going to clean Intel's clock. :roll:

Who cares, It's called healthy competition. It's like boxing, everyone from Robert Guerrero, Miguel Cotto, United States Victor Ortiz, Shane Mosley and 40 other contenders all said they were going to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. They all lost - But its all about the promotion and hyping the fight up which made them tens of millions.
 
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