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That depends on how many devs adopt the API. I'm not a fan of proprietary APIs, including physx. This will further fragment the PC gaming.

It won't fragment anything. If your card doesn't support Mantle, it will still run just the same using Direct3D (just a tiny bit slower, clearly). Feature wise i don't think there will be much difference since HW is of the same class. PhysX on the other hand, without the support either doesn't work at all or works piss poorly even on 4+ GHz quad core...

So in the end it's just a matter of developers taking time to use Mantle API in their engine. And frankly i'd prefer Mantle over anything. Extra performance is always nice where i have yet to see anything useful from PhysX other than lame eye candy that still badly degrades performance even on fully supported HW...
 
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Hmm, I like how people anthropomorphize inanimate objects. It won't make a graphics card cry. It will only make idiots cry. And it will only make idiots shout triumphantly as if owning a certain brand is like following a football team.

Anybody using terms like "This is gonna kick Titan's butt" or "Titan fall" or "this will make GK110 cry" have lost the plot. It's a piece of technology, not your brother in a school yard fight.

Folk need to just grow up.

Here's how it is. If the R9 290X truly trounces the performance of a GTX Titan, then that is a very good thing for everyone. As a person who puts money aside for tech products, I'll go and buy the AMD card (once water blocks are out). To me it's a win win situation.

In BF4 at 2560x1440 with Ultra settings I get roughly 60fps, with drops to 50 and peaks at 70. That's how fast Titan is but if 290X gets 15% more (minimum 60fps) I'll get that card as well.

And in 'x' months Nvidia will release another card that will beat the performance of the 290X and the idiots will come clammering back saying '290 Xpired' and other such nonsense.

People - it's a graphics card. If you're getting in any way attached to it, please, go outside and feel the breeze, cuddle your partner or phone your dear old mum. There's more to life than triumphalism/defeatism about tech for goodness sake.

Why are you here then?

Like the fat kit at the party standing by the snacks....


All of us already agree that evolution and revolution of hardware and software in the right ways is great for the consumer (all of us), and Nvidia's Titan costing so much with little to now answer from AMD has been questionable.

We now have that answer, and some leaked benchmarks, titan killer or not if it at least brings the price down to sane levels it gives all of us some choice in the marketplace, plus the standard fanfare.

Mantle or a proprietary API is another branch on this tree, Nvidia has been a royal dick about many things, CYDA, Physx. AMD/ATI have been royal dicks about many things, drivers, software "vaporware".

However, if they can create a API that allows software to bypass the bottlenecks, good for them and shame on Nvidia for not having the sight and mobility to do it.
 
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Why are you here then?

Like the fat kit at the party standing by the snacks....


All of us already agree that evolution and revolution of hardware and software in the right ways is great for the consumer (all of us), and Nvidia's Titan costing so much with little to now answer from AMD has been questionable.

We now have that answer, and some leaked benchmarks, titan killer or not if it at least brings the price down to sane levels it gives all of us some choice in the marketplace, plus the standard fanfare.

Mantle or a proprietary API is another branch on this tree, Nvidia has been a royal dick about many things, CYDA, Physx. AMD/ATI have been royal dicks about many things, drivers, software "vaporware".

However, if they can create a API that allows software to bypass the bottlenecks, good for them and shame on Nvidia for not having the sight and mobility to do it.

Your reply is very well taken except your first two lines which are to be frank, ignorant.

I'm here because I like technology. Yet I don't like the clamouring voices taking things personally - it creates a poor atmosphere where discussing tech becomes a chore.

As for the insult, i suppose it's to be expected from the forum ocassionally when you try to reason with people. I'm sorry I brought out your negativity.
 
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Please remain civil towards one another. It is alright to disagree with what another member posts, but do so without the insults. This is not a suggestion:)

Civility is a masquerade from behind which monsters lie.

Anyhow, you gonna partake in a 290X Mr Hammer? Might be fun to bench now we know they'll have water blocks from the get go.
 

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Hmm, I like how people anthropomorphize inanimate objects. It won't make a graphics card cry. It will only make idiots cry. And it will only make idiots shout triumphantly as if owning a certain brand is like following a football team.

Anybody using terms like "This is gonna kick Titan's butt" or "Titan fall" or "this will make GK110 cry" have lost the plot. It's a piece of technology, not your brother in a school yard fight.

Folk need to just grow up.

Here's how it is. If the R9 290X truly trounces the performance of a GTX Titan, then that is a very good thing for everyone. As a person who puts money aside for tech products, I'll go and buy the AMD card (once water blocks are out). To me it's a win win situation.

In BF4 at 2560x1440 with Ultra settings I get roughly 60fps, with drops to 50 and peaks at 70. That's how fast Titan is but if 290X gets 15% more (minimum 60fps) I'll get that card as well.

And in 'x' months Nvidia will release another card that will beat the performance of the 290X and the idiots will come clammering back saying '290 Xpired' and other such nonsense.

People - it's a graphics card. If you're getting in any way attached to it, please, go outside and feel the breeze, cuddle your partner or phone your dear old mum. There's more to life than triumphalism/defeatism about tech for goodness sake.

Someone got his first bigboypants! :laugh:

EDIT: Sorry. Can't take anything seriously today. You're right it would be good for everyone. It is the way of the land though, to get upset about things.
 
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Someone got his first bigboypants! :laugh:

EDIT: Sorry. Can't take anything seriously today. You're right it would be good for everyone. It is the way of the land though, to get upset about things.

Nah, you're right. I need to accept people's thoughts even if they are illogical to me. Anyhow, I like my bigboypants, took me 39 years to graduate into them. But now i have to go poop in the bigboyroom.
 
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Nah, you're right. I need to accept people's thoughts even if they are illogical to me. Anyhow, I like my bigboypants, took me 39 years to graduate into them. But now i have to go poop in the bigboyroom.

It amuses me more because Titan is actually very old tech, and only now has AMD managed to get toe to toe with it. The more amusing fact is that all these people getting all cross-eyed and sweaty over 290X dont actually know its performance in games, and are merely basing their speculative nature on a couple of charts that show the 290X beat the Titan in one or two instances, but then either lost to or equalled the Titan in other tests. One of said instances was BF4 where AMD's mantle has been forcably injected (via bribes from AMD), so that holds zero value to me. What about every other game in existence that doesnt use mantle? The 290X isnt going to make the Titan look like a little girl. It's going to make an old man still look like a god damn athlete.
Oh, AMD, your cooler sucks. NVidia's blower cooler looks and seems to perform far better (Please see AMD reference review and GTX 780 reference review for figures)

Dont hate me yo. I've used AMD and NVidia cards alike, I just go where the best performance is for my money.
 
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huh ? what?
Oh please dude.. :slap:

What part didn't you understand? :slap:

As RCoon said, it's funny people are getting excited an unreleased card is faster than something that was rocking at ORNL over a year ago.

Just trying to put things into perspective, don't be mad.

If the R9 290X does indeed rock and is reasonably priced I'll be picking one up, the brand sticker on the side doesn't bother as much as others here.
 
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It amuses me more because some people think that there is a valid comperission between the tech even though its released in different timeline. Using your logic its Nvidia who will try to fight 290x by releasing their new card.
So you don't have the problem with Batmen, Metro etc but you have trouble with BF4, how come you're so bs yet say you're not?
Oh and Nvidia drivers suck, remember how their cards fried because of drivers, or was it because cooling solution, who cares its still shit.

Don't hate me yo. I've used AMD and NVidia cards alike, I just go where the best performance is for my money.
 
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It amuses me more because some people think that there is a valid comperission between the tech even though its released in different timeline. Using your logic its Nvidia who will try to fight 290x by releasing their new card.
So you don't have the problem with Batmen, Metro etc but you have trouble with BF4, how come you're so bs yet say you're not?
Oh and Nvidia drivers suck, remember how their cards fried because of drivers, or was it because cooling solution, who cares its still shit.

Don't hate me yo. I've used AMD and NVidia cards alike, I just go where the best performance is for my money.

:confused: As much as I try to understand your arguements, I actually cant.
What you're saying about drivers is marginally hypocritical, and you merely reinforced my statement about Titan being old tech but still capable of going toe to toe with AMD's new stuff. "how come you're so bs yet say you're not?" Do you even know what you're saying?
 
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It amuses me more because Titan is actually very old tech, and only now has AMD managed to get toe to toe with it. The more amusing fact is that all these people getting all cross-eyed and sweaty over 290X dont actually know its performance in games, and are merely basing their speculative nature on a couple of charts that show the 290X beat the Titan in one or two instances, but then either lost to or equalled the Titan in other tests. One of said instances was BF4 where AMD's mantle has been forcably injected (via bribes from AMD), so that holds zero value to me. What about every other game in existence that doesnt use mantle? The 290X isnt going to make the Titan look like a little girl. It's going to make an old man still look like a god damn athlete.
Oh, AMD, your cooler sucks. NVidia's blower cooler looks and seems to perform far better (Please see AMD reference review and GTX 780 reference review for figures)

Dont hate me yo. I've used AMD and NVidia cards alike, I just go where the best performance is for my money.

You can only buy reference TITANs. However Linus from Linus tech tips said that he doesn't know of any reviewers with reference cooled R9 290Xs so the cooling will probably be non issues whereas the TITAN's vanity cooler is the only option. BTW the TITAN has one of the worst VRM designs I have seen on a high end card excluding the GTX680. The TITAN is also so old because the when they designed it was way too expensive to produce even now when the 28nm process is so good that 7970s cost 300$ the TITAN cost 3 times that but is only 25% faster. AMD probably realized that making a monster chip would be stupid because of the failure rates and never bothered designing a core to compete with the TITAN until the TITAN became a rumor.
 

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You can only buy reference TITANs. However Linus from Linus tech tips said that he doesn't know of any reviewers with reference cooled R9 290Xs so the cooling will probably be non issues whereas the TITAN's vanity cooler is the only option. BTW the TITAN has one of the worst VRM designs I have seen on a high end card excluding the GTX680. The TITAN is also so old because the when they designed it was way too expensive to produce even now when the 28nm process is so good that 7970s cost 300$ the TITAN cost 3 times that but is only 25% faster. AMD probably realized that making a monster chip would be stupid because of the failure rates and never bothered designing a core to compete with the TITAN until the TITAN became a rumor.

You know, Nvidia can easily relax their TITAN requirements, allowing AIBs to slap on the fanciest cooler with the best VRM designs they can get. What we don't know is how good the 290x is, and if the rumoured price is any indication of performance it should be about as good or slightly better than 780. I am infinitely more interested in GTX780 vs 290x, since TITAN is a premium product made with absolutely no regard to price/perf.
 
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You can only buy reference TITANs. However Linus from Linus tech tips said that he doesn't know of any reviewers with reference cooled R9 290Xs so the cooling will probably be non issues whereas the TITAN's vanity cooler is the only option. BTW the TITAN has one of the worst VRM designs I have seen on a high end card excluding the GTX680. The TITAN is also so old because the when they designed it was way too expensive to produce even now when the 28nm process is so good that 7970s cost 300$ the TITAN cost 3 times that but is only 25% faster. AMD probably realized that making a monster chip would be stupid because of the failure rates and never bothered designing a core to compete with the TITAN until the TITAN became a rumor.

The Titan can be sold cheaper, the price does not reflect the actual cost to produce, the price is merely there to maintain its high-roller profile. Also the VRM design may "look" bad to you, but if you ask a couple of members who have unlocked their Titan's voltage and are watercooling them, you'll find they clock upwards of 1300Mhz. See >Titan Clubhouse.
 

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BTW the TITAN has one of the worst VRM designs I have seen on a high end card excluding the GTX680.

It's not bad at all. It's just not superb. That being said, the sturdy VRM designs are usually done by AIB's (for Lightning's Classified, custom cards).

What I'd like to see from the 290X is a PCB that has good voltage circuitry that eliminates or vastly reduces the possibility of choke whine. A lot of 7970's had pretty bad coil whine and even W1zz was taken aback by the noise from the 7990.

On paper the 290X looks pretty damn impressive but I just hope they get the 'bodywork' to a suitable level.

On the subject of Titan's cooler - it actually works very well and even at it's loudest, it's not an invasive noise at all. Naysayers are normally not owners in that regard, that can be backed up by almost every single Titan review that referenced the noise output. Still too loud for me though. If I can't hear my Chinchilla fart over my PC's noise output, something needs fixed.
 
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Hmm, I like how people anthropomorphize inanimate objects. It won't make a graphics card cry. It will only make idiots cry. And it will only make idiots shout triumphantly as if owning a certain brand is like following a football team.

Anybody using terms like "This is gonna kick Titan's butt" or "Titan fall" or "this will make GK110 cry" have lost the plot. It's a piece of technology, not your brother in a school yard fight.

Folk need to just grow up.

Here's how it is. If the R9 290X truly trounces the performance of a GTX Titan, then that is a very good thing for everyone. As a person who puts money aside for tech products, I'll go and buy the AMD card (once water blocks are out). To me it's a win win situation.

In BF4 at 2560x1440 with Ultra settings I get roughly 60fps, with drops to 50 and peaks at 70. That's how fast Titan is but if 290X gets 15% more (minimum 60fps) I'll get that card as well.

And in 'x' months Nvidia will release another card that will beat the performance of the 290X and the idiots will come clammering back saying '290 Xpired' and other such nonsense.

People - it's a graphics card. If you're getting in any way attached to it, please, go outside and feel the breeze, cuddle your partner or phone your dear old mum. There's more to life than triumphalism/defeatism about tech for goodness sake.

+1
I couldn't have said it better.
 
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The Titan can be sold cheaper, the price does not reflect the actual cost to produce, the price is merely there to maintain its high-roller profile. Also the VRM design may "look" bad to you, but if you ask a couple of members who have unlocked their Titan's voltage and are watercooling them, you'll find they clock upwards of 1300Mhz. See >Titan Clubhouse.

Still, i think titan is much more expensive to make than a 290x.
Btw, amd bringing a new card to compete with such an "old" card as titan, that's always the same story, be nvidia or be amd the one trying to catch up.
 

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It's not bad at all. It's just not superb. That being said, the sturdy VRM designs are usually done by AIB's (for Lightning's Classified, custom cards).

What I'd like to see from the 290X is a PCB that has good voltage circuitry that eliminates or vastly reduces the possibility of choke whine. A lot of 7970's had pretty bad coil whine and even W1zz was taken aback by the noise from the 7990.

On paper the 290X looks pretty damn impressive but I just hope they get the 'bodywork' to a suitable level.

On the subject of Titan's cooler - it actually works very well and even at it's loudest, it's not an invasive noise at all. Naysayers are normally not owners in that regard, that can be backed up by almost every single Titan review that referenced the noise output. Still too loud for me though. If I can't hear my Chinchilla fart over my PC's noise output, something needs fixed.

Well there was 1 exception to that which is the VRM's on thee 6970 which are the coolest of any i have come across

Still, i think titan is much more expensive to make than a 290x.
Btw, amd bringing a new card to compete with such an "old" card as titan, that's always the same story, be nvidia or be amd the one trying to catch up.

But why spend so much money on some thing that don't sell as many of. AMD did right and not make a massive GPU to compete with Titan for more than 1 reason.

And i would not call $1k card any kind of great sure the Titans older now but they still after those crazy price's.

Even if the 290x was a few FPS less it's still ( as we know of ) some were like $300 cheaper. AMD ned to do what they always been good at performance v's price as it's a win win in many more cases.
 
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People should stop comparing Titan with 290x. If AMD can produce a card that's significantly faster than Titan, call it Zeus and slap a price of at least $1000 on it and be able to get away with it, then yes. 290x is just the top card of the R9 series and it competes on performance and price with the top card of the GTX 7** series which is the 780. After all that I gathered it appears that it will indeed be competitive which is the reason AMD is in the business after all. 15 is the day we'll find out how competitive, at least these are the rumors.
 

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Hmm, I like how people anthropomorphize inanimate objects. It won't make a graphics card cry. It will only make idiots cry. And it will only make idiots shout triumphantly as if owning a certain brand is like following a football team.

Anybody using terms like "This is gonna kick Titan's butt" or "Titan fall" or "this will make GK110 cry" have lost the plot. It's a piece of technology, not your brother in a school yard fight.

Folk need to just grow up.

Here's how it is. If the R9 290X truly trounces the performance of a GTX Titan, then that is a very good thing for everyone. As a person who puts money aside for tech products, I'll go and buy the AMD card (once water blocks are out). To me it's a win win situation.

In BF4 at 2560x1440 with Ultra settings I get roughly 60fps, with drops to 50 and peaks at 70. That's how fast Titan is but if 290X gets 15% more (minimum 60fps) I'll get that card as well.

And in 'x' months Nvidia will release another card that will beat the performance of the 290X and the idiots will come clammering back saying '290 Xpired' and other such nonsense.

People - it's a graphics card. If you're getting in any way attached to it, please, go outside and feel the breeze, cuddle your partner or phone your dear old mum. There's more to life than triumphalism/defeatism about tech for goodness sake.

I'll add mine then: I read this yesterday, this is a disgustingly useless post that states the obvious and then tops it with repugnance. Why post just to criticize common ACCEPTED human behavior? Huh?

On topic: I think AMD has a secret design just-in-case, which is expensive, low yield, huge die, drop-in replacement and not marketable unless brand pride is on the line. They should have learned their lesson this last round. AMD got burned!
 

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I'll add mine then: I read this yesterday, this is a disgustingly useless post that states the obvious and then tops it with repugnance.

lol.
 
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Day one Titan owner here. I am very curious to see legit 290X benches and less speculative posts, haha. Good times for the high-end enthusiasts in the market next week, hopefully. :cool: I wonder how long the Titan 6GB and 290X 4GB will last performance-wise (ie, how long before they are considered just "mid range".)
 

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Those specs are impressive, hope they have sorted out the crossfire issue. Eagerly waiting for this card.
 
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