AMD "Kabini" Low Power APU Lineup Detailed Some More

[btarunr]

AMD's upcoming low-power APU lineup, based on a common silicon code-named "Kabini," will launch with no less than five models. These could include chips built in both the socketed AM1 FCPGA and BGA packages, to cater to different target form-factors. The series starts off at the bottom with the dual-core E1-2100 and E1-2150. The two feature CPU clock speeds of 1.00 and 1.05 GHz, respectively, 1 MB of L2 cache, and Radeon HD 8210 graphics. The HD 8210 features 128 stream processors based on the Graphics CoreNext architecture. The CPU cores, on the other hand, are based on the "Jaguar" micro-architecture.

Moving on, there's the E2-3800. It tucks in a quad-core CPU clocked at 1.30 GHz, 2 MB of L2 cache, and Radeon HD 8280 graphics. The features the same stream processor count of 128 as the HD 8210, but higher clock speeds. Going beyond the E-Series, we enter AMD's more popularized A-Series, with the A4-5000, A4-5050, and the A6-5200. The three are built in the AM1 package, and are not compatible with platforms that drive the bigger A-Series "Kaveri" chips. The A4-5000 and A4-5500 feature CPU clock speeds of 1.50 GHz and 1.55 GHz, respectively, and Radeon HD 8330 graphics, featuring 128 stream processors, but 500 MHz GPU clock - the highest in its class. The list also points to an A6-5200. We're not sure which silicon it's based on, but it's outfitted with a quad-core CPU clocked at 2.00 GHz, and Radeon HD 8400 graphics.



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[Vario]

Thats going to be so incredibly slow.

 

[Nordic]

Faster than atom.

 

[xvi]

My computer at work is an AMD E1-1200 (1.4GHz dual core). It doesn't take long to realize that you could have all the cores in the world, but you'll still have poor single-threaded performance.

 

[Sihastru]

Faster than atom.

Atom is no longer on the desktop. The only Atoms these days are those in tablets and phones. With sub 2-3W TDP.

There are a few interesting Atoms on the server side, those go up to 8 cores and 20W TDP, they support ECC memory and stuff. Are you talking about those?

 

[ZetZet]

These are and always be very bad performers.

 

[WaroDaBeast]

Faster than atom.

Way faster. I've got a laptop that sports an E1 2100, and I can tell you it's got nothing to do with atoms.

Now, I haven't used the latest atoms, but I used to use my sister's netbook (CPU == N270). That thing was dog slow. Don't even think about browsing wikipedia with it, unless you love jerky web pages. I don't experience such slowdowns with my new laptop or my Ye Olde Lappetoppe (CPU == Pentium M 755).

Of course, if you multitask a lot, a CPU with more oomph (read: the quad core A4's) will be better.

(All tests carried out under Manjaro XFCE edition.)

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To those calling these CPU's slow: have you ever used them?

 

[ZetZet]

Way faster. I've got a laptop that sports an E1 2100, and I can tell you it's got nothing to do with atoms.

Now, I haven't used the latest atoms, but I used to use my sister's netbook (CPU == N270). That thing was dog slow. Don't even think about browsing wikipedia with it, unless you love jerky web pages. I don't experience such slowdowns with my new laptop or my Ye Olde Lappetoppe (CPU == Pentium M 755).

Of course, if you multitask a lot, a CPU with more oomph (read: the quad core A4's) will be better.

(All tests carried out under Manjaro XFCE edition.)

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To those calling these CPU's slow: have you ever used them?

Oh that E1 1200 is about as powerful as Atom Z3740.

 

[Rastor]

The E1-2100, A4-5000 and A6-5200 were all released May 2013, those are not new SKUs.

 

[Constantine Yevseyev]

Way faster. I've got a laptop that sports an E1 2100, and I can tell you it's got nothing to do with atoms.

Now, I haven't used the latest atoms, but I used to use my sister's netbook (CPU == N270). That thing was dog slow. Don't even think about browsing wikipedia with it, unless you love jerky web pages. I don't experience such slowdowns with my new laptop or my Ye Olde Lappetoppe (CPU == Pentium M 755).

Of course, if you multitask a lot, a CPU with more oomph (read: the quad core A4's) will be better.

(All tests carried out under Manjaro XFCE edition.)

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To those calling these CPU's slow: have you ever used them?

You've just compared a CPU from early 2008 and a shiny new APU from mid 2013. Nice.

 

[15th Warlock]

Kinda related to these news, anyone knows if anyone's working on a design based on that sweet Temash gaming tablet AMD showed at CES this year?

I would buy one of those in a heartbeat.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Way faster. I've got a laptop that sports an E1 2100, and I can tell you it's got nothing to do with atoms.

Now, I haven't used the latest atoms, but I used to use my sister's netbook (CPU == N270). That thing was dog slow. Don't even think about browsing wikipedia with it, unless you love jerky web pages. I don't experience such slowdowns with my new laptop or my Ye Olde Lappetoppe (CPU == Pentium M 755).

Of course, if you multitask a lot, a CPU with more oomph (read: the quad core A4's) will be better.

(All tests carried out under Manjaro XFCE edition.)

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To those calling these CPU's slow: have you ever used them?

the n270 is ancient. the MODERN atoms (the z3770, for instance) is quite snappy. if i had to bet, id say the overall performance of the a6-5200 and the z3770 will be neck and neck. and the reviews of the asus t100 (z3740) seem to put a very favorable light in the new atom.

 

[Ravenas]

You've just compared a CPU from early 2008 and a shiny new APU from mid 2013. Nice.

Bay Trail atom processors are not from 2008. Bay Trail is a very recent 2013 system on a chip with very poor graphic performance and good TDP and also mild single core performance.

Mullins will dominate Bay Trail, but Cherry Trail is on its heels.

 

[Nordic]

This is the only review of kabini I know of. The best intel chip they test it with is the N2760
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6974/amd-kabini-review

 

[xorbe]

So many traumatized by the old netbook Atoms, lol.

 

[WaroDaBeast]

You've just compared a CPU from early 2008 and a shiny new APU from mid 2013. Nice.

I gotta confess that it does sound unfair. What I meant to put into perspective was: "This is a slow CPU, but not so slow it'll interfere with your workflow."

How about a comparison with AMD Neo MV40 then? I've used a machine sporting that CPU several times, and Windows 7 was stutter-free. Could even play a few games (GPU being Radeon X1270).

Now, granted, that laptop may not have as much battery life as Atom-based machines released at the time (I didn't run any test in that regard).

So many traumatized by the old netbook Atoms, lol.

I think we can thank all our friends who only look at the price before buying a computer. "But, it was only EUR 200," they always argue.

Bay Trail atom processors are not from 2008. Bay Trail is a very recent 2013 system on a chip with very poor graphic performance and good TDP and also mild single core performance.

Reread my previous post. You'll notice I was talking about N270, since that is mainly what I've used so far when it comes to Atoms.

the n270 is ancient. the MODERN atoms (the z3770, for instance) is quite snappy. if i had to bet, id say the overall performance of the a6-5200 and the z3770 will be neck and neck. and the reviews of the asus t100 (z3740) seem to put a very favorable light in the new atom.

Well, that's good news then. (Read it in Pr. Farnsworth's voice.)

 

[Constantine Yevseyev]

Bay Trail atom processors are not from 2008. Bay Trail is a very recent 2013 system on a chip with very poor graphic performance and good TDP and also mild single core performance.

Mullins will dominate Bay Trail, but Cherry Trail is on its heels.

You were talking about N270. It's Diamondville from 2008.

 

[Popocatepetl]

Atom is no longer on the desktop. The only Atoms these days are those in tablets and phones. With sub 2-3W TDP.

Precisely, nobody wants to buy that Atom crap for desktop applications anymore. This is why Baytrail-D is going to fail so hard, correct?

 

[Thefumigator]

Kabini is here to win, no intel processor offers its performance and GPU performance at that price point and TDP

A6-5200 is 25Watts, quad core at 2.0Ghz and Radeon HD8400.
it was released in May 2013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135363

I own a C60, I run it as micro server for almost everything, security camera, downloads, MS SQL and IIS
its 9watts, dual core 1.33GHz, Radeon HD6290
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135321

The GPUs compared:
GPU Type: Radeon HD 8400
Shader cores: 128
Base frequency (MHz): 600

GPU Type: Radeon HD 6290
Shader cores: 80
Base frequency (MHz): 276
Maximum frequency (MHz): 400

 

[NeoXF]

Those people with the "it's slow" posts... seriously have no clue what they are talking about.
1. It isn't, it does just about anything you could expect for it's market segment and then some more (gaming).
2. Do you people even know what low-power/SoC means? Or do you just twitch on sight when you see a chip and automaticaly compare it to a i7 and call it shit?

What happened to the Athlon branded desktop, socketable Kabinis? I was interested in the the 5350 model (2,05GHz/600MHz+ iGPU, 25W. DDR3/DDR3L 1600).

 

[WaroDaBeast]

What happened to the Athlon branded desktop, socketable Kabinis? I was interested in the the 5350 model (2,05GHz/600MHz+ iGPU, 25W. DDR3/DDR3L 1600).

Can't believed I missed the memo... Hell, there was even an article about it here on TPU! Well, I would sure love building rigs with those bad boys.

 

[xorbe]

What happened to the Athlon branded desktop, socketable Kabinis? I was interested in the the 5350 model (2,05GHz/600MHz+ iGPU, 25W. DDR3/DDR3L 1600).

This claims March 2014:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Jaguar/AMD-Athlon 5350 - AD5350JAH44HM.html

 

[TRWOV]

The only beef I have against the Atoms isn't with the CPUs but Intel. Cedar Trail 32bit support only WTF????

 

[camoxiong]

perfect for htpc