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Microsoft Negotiating With EMI for Its DRM-Free Music

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As most of you already know, EMI has liberated it's music from the DRM (Digital Rights Management) monster, and Apple is the first company to support it. Apple will be distributing DRM-free music through iTunes right as soon as they settle their problems with the EU. However, some people don't like being forced into low-quality encoding (128 KB/s AAC) just so they can listen to DRM free music. Microsoft may be the answer to this problem. They are trying to get DRM-free EMI music into their Zune Marketplace, and negotiations are looking hopeful. There is no word as to what encoding this DRM free music will be in.

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Interesting. The sooner we get rid of DRM, the better IMO. I often rebuild my PC's and have to be careful as rebuilding will invalidate my legally purchased music.
 

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Title should say its not it's zek, it's always means it is :p
 

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It's indicates that something belongs to something else. For example....

Zek's banstick means "my banstick".

Zeks banstick means nothing.

I'd assume the same rules apply to it's and its. But, let's not have an argument over proper English :).
 

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There's no argument, the title is wrong, nothing to talk about.

his/her/its
 

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I'd assume the same rules apply to it's and its. But, let's not have an argument over proper English :).

Why not :p - unless you plan to use your banstick on me that is...

The rules are different when it comes to it - it's is only used for it is, the possessive form of it is its.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/its

I know I'm being picky, but I'm bored :laugh: Grammar flaming time!
 

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I looked it up, you're right Jimmy. Its is the possessive form. It's just the way I learned English, I suppose.
 

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I guess we're all bored, even me for coming back to this thread.
 

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Let's not forget that Bill Gates made his Anti-DRM speach months before Steve Jobs did. Steve Jobs just wants to be a pop icon.
 

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I see really nothing wrong with 128, I doubt there would be much difference between 128 and 192 for example, so why all the complaining?
 

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I see really nothing wrong with 128, I doubt there would be much difference between 128 and 192 for example, so why all the complaining?

In recent days, 128 has come a long way making it more difficult to notice a difference between 128 and 192; however, there still is a slight difference.
 

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I can hear a difference between 96 and 128 on most songs - sometimes the sound will get a bit 'fuzzy'. However, 128 has good enough quality for me, and although I can notice the slightest of differences between 196 and 128, it doesn't bother me enough to justify the extra space required.
 

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When I have plenty of hard drive space and not a lot of music, I just put it at 192 KB/s.
 

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192kb/s or nothing.
 

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MSN used to sell their music at high-bitrate VBR, 192-256kbps. I assume Zune marketplace does the same.

Update: Well google says its CBR 192kbps. Pretty good.
 
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