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Intel Gains, Nvidia Flat, and AMD Loses Graphics Market Share in Q1

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Jon Peddie Research (JPR), the industry's research and consulting firm for graphics and multimedia, announced estimated graphics chip shipments and suppliers' market share for 2014 1Q. For the previous three quarters, the PC graphics market has gone up. This was the first quarter to show a decrease in shipments since last. Shipments were down 11.6% quarter-to-quarter, and down 4% compared to the same quarter last year.

Quick highlights:
  • AMD's overall unit shipments decreased 18.2% quarter-to-quarter, Intel's total shipments decreased 7.9% from last quarter, and Nvidia's decreased 10.4%.
  • The attach rate of GPUs to PCs for the quarter was 135% and 33% of PCs had discrete GPUs, which means 67% of the PCs are using the embedded graphics in the CPU.
  • The overall PC market decreased 9% quarter-to-quarter, and decreased 3.5% year-to-year.





Q1 is typically the quarter when retailers try to unload what they bought for the holiday season that they didn't sell, and is traditionally seasonably lower than previous quarters. The drop this quarter compared to last year's and is not alarming.

GPUs are traditionally a leading indicator of the market, since a GPU goes into every system before it is shipped, and most of the PC vendors are guiding down to flat for Q2'14. The Gaming PC segment, where higher-end GPUs are used, was a bright spot in the market in Q1. Both Nvidia and AMD said sales of their higher-end GPUs were strong, lifting the ASPs for the discrete GPU market.

The popularity of tablets and the slow but steady economic improvement are the most often mentioned reasons for the decline in the PC market, particularly at the lower-end. The CAGR for total PC graphics from 2014 to 2017 is basically flat. We expect the total shipments of graphics chips in 2017 to be 400.8 million units. In 2013, 447 million GPUs were shipped and the forecast for 2014 is 399 million.

The ten-year average change for graphics shipments for quarter-to-quarter is a growth of -2.8%, and this quarter was -11.6%.

The quarter in general
  • AMD's shipments of desktop heterogeneous GPU/CPUs, i.e., APUs dropped 21.9% from the previous quarter, and increased 3.7% in notebooks. AMD's discrete desktop shipments decreased 6.6% and notebook discrete shipments declined 21.8%. . The company's overall PC graphics shipments decreased 18.2%. This was due to a drop off in stand-alone integrated graphics chipsets, which was not unexpected given the company's move to embedded CPU graphics in their APUs.
  • Intel's desktop processor embedded graphics (EPGs) shipments decreased from last quarter by 5.1%, and notebooks decreased by 9.7%. The company's overall PC graphics shipments decreased 7.9%.
  • Nvidia's desktop discrete shipments decreased 6.6% from last quarter; and, the company's notebook discrete shipments decreased 14.5%. The company's overall PC graphics shipments decreased 10.4%.
  • Year-to-year this quarter AMD's overall PC shipments decreased 22.1%, Intel decreased 5.6%, Nvidia decreased 12.7%, and others essentially went away.
  • Total discrete GPU (desktop and notebook) shipments from the last quarter decreased 11.5% and decreased 14.3% from last year for the same quarter due to the same problems plaguing the overall PC industry. Overall, the trend for discrete GPUs increased with a CAGR from 2014 to 2017 of 0.1%.
  • Ninety nine percent of Intel's non-server processors have graphics, and over 67% of AMD's non-server processors contain integrated graphics; AMD still ships integrated graphics chipsets (IGPs).

Year-to-year for the quarter, the graphics market decreased. Shipments were down 4 million units from this quarter last year, which suggests the big declines are leveling off.

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Wait a sec... AMD still has more market share than Nvidia? AHAHAHAHA!!!! Excellent... >:]
 
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First AMD releases a congratulatory article saying they've driven GPU pricing down to the MSRP pricing. Next, an article is released saying GPU shipments are down. Anyone else seeing the simple math here?


I like AMD, but asking for praise while experiencing a dip in sales is a bit sad.
 
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First AMD releases a congratulatory article saying they've driven GPU pricing down to the MSRP pricing. Next, an article is released saying GPU shipments are down. Anyone else seeing the simple math here?


I like AMD, but asking for praise while experiencing a dip in sales is a bit sad.

What most folks don't understand is Intel's sales are from chips with integrated graphics, i.e. APUs only where as AMD and Nvidia are AIBs and also via APUs for AMD. People buying many of the Intel APUs are not using the IG, they just want the CPU.
 
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What most folks don't understand is Intel's sales are from chips with integrated graphics, i.e. APUs only where as AMD and Nvidia are AIBs and also via APUs for AMD. People buying many of the Intel APUs are not using the IG, they just want the CPU.

And this would mean that we should dismiss or ignore these statistics because they are not representative of customers' real needs and wants. ;)
 
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What most folks don't understand is Intel's sales are from chips with integrated graphics, i.e. APUs only where as AMD and Nvidia are AIBs and also via APUs for AMD. People buying many of the Intel APUs are not using the IG, they just want the CPU.

The vast majority of processor sales are attributed to OEMS which in tern equate to whole computer sales. While it is true that many people buy computer components and build their own or upgrade components like the processor this is not how the bulk of processors or sold.

So in the larger scheme of whole PC sales (desktop / mobile) much like tablet x86 / x64 PC sales people use whatever the system comes with and many don't consider it an Intel APU sale or even necessarily care all that much about the graphics. Many people are using Intel graphics and may not necessarily even know it any more then they could tell you about the graphics subsystem of their ARM based smart phone or tablet.
 
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What most folks don't understand is Intel's sales are from chips with integrated graphics, i.e. APUs only where as AMD and Nvidia are AIBs and also via APUs for AMD. People buying many of the Intel APUs are not using the IG, they just want the CPU.

Perhaps you should read my reply, and the article that the OP posted.

They've broken down the relationship between APU, IGPU, and discrete graphics cards. None of this is rocket science, given that it is all already listed.

My comment was based on the following link: http://www.techpowerup.com/200865/amd-radeon-r9-series-prices-cool-down.html

AMD has patted themselves on the back for decreasing the sales price of discrete GPUs. They fail to mention the flagging sales figures, the bust of the crypto-currency markets, or even their ability to finally manufacture to demand. My point was that AMD is bragging about their accomplishment, while the industry is experiencing a regular down-turn in sales. Patting ones self on the back during this seems to be a bit arrogant or misguided.
 
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And this would mean that we should dismiss or ignore these statistics because they are not representative of customers' real needs and wants. ;)

I hope you realize that Most laptops are Intel CPUs. Of those, most do not come with discrete graphics. Conclusively, you can say most Intel graphics are utilized to their full extent.

That doesn't mean Intel's graphics is worth anything.
 
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