Multiplier-Unlocked Pentium G3258, Core i7-4790K and Core i5-4690K Listed

[sweet]

Increase in the price of a little a better thermal paste is not justified .Certainly will be better to cool the processor without top cover first tests showed no noteworthy improvement and unlock a multiplier is no longer cost . Since it is K model is not that worth mentioning. 3D tranzistors but did not show progress .
lack of competition allows behave more like a pig with puppies .
Without the protective cover will definitely be colder .I think I'll wait for Broadwell.

With better pin material and some work transfered to z97, those new Haswell will definitely clock better than your nake chip. However, I second that intel should have done it in the first release of Haswell

 

[Hood]

I think it will debut as stated on June 2, because a 3 month delay would put it too close to Broadwell and Haswell-E, and nobody would buy it. Maybe Intel generated the delay rumor to keep interest high - when they come in June the relief at not having to wait will hopefully (for Intel) cause massive orders, sell-outs, back orders, and price gouging, all of which generate more free publicity. Not that Intel needs any...

 

[Cruise51]

Yay! Imma get a pentium and OC the shi7 out of that like the old days

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Men. Costs more to do what sandy bridge already did several years ago. I have a 3570k and see no reason the DC i5 should be $30 more than the ivy k series i5. And I'll guess that there won't be much of a performance difference, given that the 6 year old i7 920 can still play anything out today just fine...

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

With better pin material and some work transfered to z97, those new Haswell will definitely clock better than your nake chip. However, I second that intel should have done it in the first release of Haswell

What do you mean with that? Same socket, same CPU core, same VRM topology. Nothing is transferred back to chipset or motherboard.

 

[Fourstaff]

$80 for a potentially 4.5Ghz chip? Casual computers has never been so cheap so fast.

 

[GhostRyder]

I am interested in the whole overclocking of these chips. If at least the top 2 hit 5ghz that will be more than impressive, but imagine if the Pentium can (Without extreme binning of course). That will be beyond cool (Or hot in this case )

 

[cadaveca]

The Pentium is exciting because there is no AVX, meaning the heat issues that were reported when Haswell launched...are gone. If this allows the chips to scale higher...that would be nice. However...

I can't get too excited. I don't want to be disappointed.

 

[GhostRyder]

The Pentium is exciting because there is no AVX, meaning the heat issues that were reported when Haswell launched...are gone. If this allows the chips to scale higher...that would be nice. However...

I can't get too excited. I don't want to be disappointed.

So then, lets crank that multiplier up!

 

[Aquinus]

The Pentium is exciting because there is no AVX, meaning the heat issues that were reported when Haswell launched...are gone. If this allows the chips to scale higher...that would be nice. However...

I can't get too excited. I don't want to be disappointed.

Nothing has been more disappointing than the lack of overclockable low-end components from Intel though. I miss overclocking Celerons, damn it!

Side note: Does this mean you need a nice motherboard to overclock your cheap CPU?
That's a rhetorical question.

 

[cadaveca]

That's a rhetorical question.

The scary part is that many don't understand how that all works. So while it might be rhetorical for you...

 

[midnightoil]

I think it will debut as stated on June 2, because a 3 month delay would put it too close to Broadwell and Haswell-E, and nobody would buy it. Maybe Intel generated the delay rumor to keep interest high - when they come in June the relief at not having to wait will hopefully (for Intel) cause massive orders, sell-outs, back orders, and price gouging, all of which generate more free publicity. Not that Intel needs any...

Desktop enthusiast Broadwell is still 12 months away (May or June 2015). Even if DC availability is September, that's still 8 or 9 months until Broadwell, and that's assuming it won't be pushed back further. DC is the back up plan to sell high premium chips below HEDT, since 14nm has been heavily delayed.

 

[Nordic]

That pentium with a cheap z97 might be fun.

 

[Aquinus]

That pentium with a cheap z97 might be fun.

It would be nice if you didn't need a motherboard that was going to cost more than the CPU though. That's what I was trying to get at.

 

[Nordic]

It would be nice if you didn't need a motherboard that was going to cost more than the CPU though. That's what I was trying to get at.

I agree. I have not looked at z97 motherboards, so I was assuming one could get one for about the same price. Looking on newegg just now, asrock has the cheapest option at $100. I would like to see a lower priced board in the $60-$80 range personally. A good sale though could put a motherboard at that price. With time prices will fall too, and possibly cheaper options as more models are made.

 

[MikeMurphy]

This will be a perfect chip for most applications. I just hope they aren't released in limited quantities.

Finally a use for those stock heatsinks bundled with most quadcores.

 

[TheHunter]

Intel said Devil's Canyon will be Z97-exclusive. Haven't seen any Z87 board with those two chips in CPU support list. They support i7-4790 non-K.

Intel said or those China leaks aka Vr-zone Expreview and alike?

Ps some mobo manufacturers didnt specifically mention 4790K, because there was no real info about 4790K yet (early February 2014) or they would probably face charges from Intel.



What intel said was this, nvm this Haswell refresh.
Broadwell is going to enable 2 different kinds of devices, one you can plug the chips directly into existing systems (Z87) and second we will have brand new systems (z97) with a broad new range of fanless designs..

This info was released behind closed doors back in September 2013, no sign of Z97 yet, then 3-4 months later (~ December 2013) VR-zone or was it Expreview shows up with news saying Z87 is dead no Broadwell support and what not..

At ~ 22-23second mark

Directly from Intel CEO mouth, or are you calling him a liar now?


I don't trust anything vr-zone or expreview at this point anymore. All they did was make some extra traffic @ their sites..

Just wait, you will see all it takes is IMEI firmware bios update.

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

Only official word is Broadwell needs Z97. I see, nor have heard, any reason why Devil's Canyon wouldn't be supported by Z87. Heck, Devil's Canyon is still same Haswell Refresh part.

You just can't put it in official support list when it is not even out yet, can you? Besides, those CPU support lists are always updated with some delay.

 

[TheHunter]

Only official word is Broadwell needs Z97.

Yeah, but Z87 is still supported with updated Intel Management Engine firmware, see video above. Ok he didnt say specifically how, but current Z87 got IME firmware update to be compatible for 4th gen refresh, I assume Broadwell should get the same update or maybe current IMEI update will be good enough.
*That video was shot back in September 2013 no sign of new systems yet, ie Z97.


Of course they're not gonna say that out loud, they need to sell some Z97 first.

 

[cadaveca]

Yeah, but Z87 is still supported with updated Intel Management Engine firmware, see video above. Ok he didnt say specifically how, but current Z87 got IME firmware update to be compatible for 4th gen refresh, I assume Broadwell should get the same update or maybe current IMEI update will be good enough.
*That video was shot back in September 2013 no sign of new systems yet, ie Z97.


Of course they're not gonna say that out loud, they need to sell some Z97 first.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intels-9-series-will-support-broadwell/53203.html

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

Yeah, but Z87 is still supported with updated Intel Management Engine firmware, see video above. Ok he didnt say specifically how, but current Z87 got IME firmware update to be compatible for 4th gen refresh, I assume Broadwell should get the same update or maybe current IMEI update will be good enough.
*That video was shot back in September 2013 no sign of new systems yet, ie Z97.


Of course they're not gonna say that out loud, they need to sell some Z97 first.

I don't speculate. I only say what manufacturer's tell me.

Directly from MSI:

 

[TheHunter]

^
Yes maybe with MSI, but that still doesnt confirm it wont work with other manufacturers.. Unless that Intel CEO trolled, but why would he?

http://vr-zone.com/articles/intels-9-series-will-support-broadwell/53203.html

Like I said, I dont trust VR-zone at this point.

So you say that INTEL ceo was bs when he said you can plug the chip into existing systems? by existing systems Im 100% sure he meant Z87 mobos since there was no Z97 yet in early September..
Why would he say that then?

 

[GC_PaNzerFIN]

^
Yes maybe with MSI, but that still doesnt confirm it wont work with other manufacturers.. Unless that Intel CEO trolled, but why would he?

So you say that INTEL ceo was bs when he said you can plug the chip into existing systems? by existing systems Im 100% sure he meant Z87 mobos since there was no Z97 yet in early September..
Why would he say that then?

It is not bs. Yes, you will be able to plug broadwell in to existing systems. When you can actually buy them...

I really can't, and won't, start trying to interpret the exact meaning of those words. They are so broad, pun intended, that they can mean anything. I can only say what Intel & motherboard manufacturers give as technical documents. No bullshit there. 100% facts. And they don't look too promising for general compatibility with Broadwell & Z87.

 

[TheHunter]

It is not bs. Yes, you will be able to plug broadwell in to existing systems. When you can actually buy them...

I really can't, and won't, start trying to interpret the exact meaning of those words. They are so broad, pun intended, that they can mean anything. I can only say what Intel & motherboard manufacturers give as technical documents. No bullshit there. 100% facts. And they don't look too promising for general compatibility with Broadwell & Z87.

Well they planed to release it 2014, so back in September 2013 it was logical he meant Z87 as existing systems and then new systems as Z97.

Z100 is for skylake & DDR4.


Yeah I guess we will just have to wait and see when Broadwell gets released..

 

[btarunr]

At ~ 22-23second mark

Directly from Intel CEO mouth, or are you calling him a liar now?

I didn't hear the CEO say "Devil's Canyon." Core i7-4790 (non-K) is "Haswell Refresh," and very much supported on 8-series chipset motherboards. That wasn't my contention. It was "Devil's Canyon," which isn't the same product (enhanced die, different package, different on-package electricals, different TIM, etc.)