AMD Readies Radeon R7 Branded Client SSDs

[john_]

If it weren't for Intel there would be no SSD manufacturers, so it seems pretty churlish to point them out as cutting out their partners - one of the main ones they are actually physically partnered with. Intel have been selling volatile memory since 1969 so how can they be accused of taking the market away from other vendors....other vendors I might add that killed the traditional DRAM market based in the U.S. (which killed Mostek who had 85% of the market) with chip dumping by Hitachi, NEC, Fujitsu, and Toshiba (who developed NAND from EEPROM) in 1981-82 thanks to the Japanese government, their funding, and the fact that they wouldn't honour U.S. companies patents.
Feel free to read up on the subject (PDF)

Who is accusing Intel????
Your conclusion about accusing Intel is wrong and all that you wrote unnecessary.

You mean like the current NAND powerhouses of Toshiba and Samsung did to crush the U.S. DRAM industry?

No I meant what I wrote.

I don't think so either, but then, I never said otherwise.

Never said you did.

 

[HumanSmoke]

Who is accusing Intel????

My bad then. From your post it parses as you think Intel is cutting out its partners

And so they continue to alienate industry partners ...

You mean like what Intel did with it's own SSDs?

What were you actually trying to get across?

 

[ZoneDymo]

why do emotions always run so high when it concerns Intel/AMD/Nvidia, I mean shit

 

[HumanSmoke]

why do emotions always run so high when it concerns Intel/AMD/Nvidia, I mean shit

Pretty obvious isn't it? A LOT of people see brands as polar opposites- some kind of Good versus Evil comic book struggle.
The reality is it's all shades in between, but if people admit that then they have no rooting interest, and more importantly have less personal justification for their own purchasing bias.

I mean, if you wanted to get down to brass tacks, AMD wouldn't actually exist without Intel. I don't mean the x86 licence that IBM strong armed Intel into, but the fact that it took Robert Noyce's investment in AMD to legitimize them in eyes of investors after Arthur Rock turned down the opportunity. The other side of the coin is Intel as a company used just about every means at its disposal- fair means and foul- to rid itself of AMD when IBM ceased to be a player in the PC market after MS, Compaq and the rest of the Gang of Nine became the dominant force. Add in Jerry Sanders coup d' état in forcing his original partners out of AMD and granting himself virtually unlimited power once they were gone....and of course Intel's various underhanded acts of litigation warfare and the picture becomes so muddied that its little wonder that people like to keep it simple.

 

[Ja.KooLit]

anybody knows OEM? wonder about price and performance

 

[the54thvoid]

Nothing wrong with what AMD are doing. Diversify your product stack. They did it with RAM last year I think.
The 'wrong' or 'right' will come from the pricing, i.e. are you stupid enough to buy a higher priced Radeon branded product? Or can you swallow your pride enough to buy a cheaper Radeon branded product to work in your neon green Tower case powered by sli 780ti's?

 

[john_]

My bad then. From your post it parses as you think Intel is cutting out its partners

No, no you misunderstood. I was sarcastic in my first post - intel wasn't alienated with anybody all those years that sells SSDs, and I was totally agreeing with your post that you did after that first one I did, so I used it to go a little further. I wasn't quoting you to say that Intel was doing something bad or you where saying something wrong. The opposite.

 

[swaaye]

I'm sure this is just more of the Radeon brand name stamped on some 3rd party product like the Radeon RAM, AMD Gaming Evolved App, and Radeon RAMDisk stuff. This all started with the big management shake up a few years ago. Using licensed ARM technology and macros as some of their future CPUs is kind of similar too for that matter.

 

[Farmer Boe]

I think people have missed the fact that this is only an "R7" branded SSD. Hopefully AMD has an R9 series in PCI-E or M.2 form factor.

 

[Cybrnook2002]

I like this, AMD is getting to the point where you can have an entire PC of AMD parts, CPU, motherboard chipset/controllers, GPU, Memory, SSD.

Would sit nice knowing everything should play well together with a fair price tag and competitive pricing.

 

[dlpatague]

Clearly you guys did not look at the slides as it states at the bottom, "Radeon R7 series SSD brought to you by OCZ Storage Solutions." So AMD are not making their own SSDs. This makes the OEM Toshiba.

 

[AsRock]

Does it really matter lets face it most SSD's are made by other than the company who sells it so WTF. Goes with any thing for example VCR's \TV's the front display was ran by a chip and most of the time you would find Toshiba chips in them too..

Very few company's make some thing these days.

 

[GhostRyder]

why do emotions always run so high when it concerns Intel/AMD/Nvidia, I mean shit

Because if you have not noticed the same few people comment about how bad certain things are and make jokes about said company regardless of the subject. Same 2 people seem to start an argument regarding AMD no matter what the underlying subject is and it grows quite old since every subject has gotten so far from the original topic that mods have had to step in and delete/stop the bickering when it conforms to AMD/Nvidia/Intel.

The R7 series SSD's...Quite interesting especially looking at the base specs in general (Though as already pointed out seems to be OEM Toshiba). It may come down to price because with that choice in controller and the specifications we could see a really competitive set of SSD's (Though my loyalty is still stuck on Samsung). As others have stated, AMD is creating a wide variety of products and quite possibly preparing for some Radeon branded machines...Could be cool I suppose.

 

[jagd]

These SSD's are from OCZ with 19nm toshiba Nands ,but i don't know which model , vertex 460 or vector 150 ( both use 19nm toshiba nand iirc ) .
Toshiba bought OCZ SSD division short time ago btw.

anybody knows OEM? wonder about price and performance

 

[Dent1]

I think SSDs are the way forward, the writing has been on the wall for traditional disk HDD because they are slow and noisy. I always felt SSDs were always ignored in mainstream systems because of the price to capacity ratio. I can remember when 80GB SSDs were over £300 and were very unrealiable. We are at a point now where SSDs are becoming very cheap and mainstream. I've been waiting for this period to happen for 10 years. Even in the last couple of years we are seeing bigger SSDs are becoming the norm. I'm seeing 500GB SSD for relatively cheap. The more manufacturers of SSDs the better, it will keep competition high and prices low and we can evolve from this disk drive which has been plaguing system performance for far too long.

 

[Aquinus]

I think SSDs are the way forward, the writing has been on the wall for traditional disk HDD because they are slow and noisy. I always felt SSDs were always ignored in mainstream systems because of the price to capacity ratio. I can remember when 80GB SSDs were over £300 and were very unrealiable. We are at a point now where SSDs are becoming very cheap and mainstream. I've been waiting for this period to happen for 10 years. Even in the last couple of years we are seeing bigger SSDs are becoming the norm. I'm seeing 500GB SSD for relatively cheap. The more manufacturers of SSDs the better, it will keep competition high and prices low and we can evolve from this disk drive which has been plaguing system performance for far too long.

I just bought a Crucial MX100 256GB for 100 USD for a machine I sold to a friend. I remember paying 175 USD for each of my 120GB Force GTs back in 2012 when I put my i7 machine together.

 

[HumanSmoke]

I think SSDs are the way forward, the writing has been on the wall for traditional disk HDD because they are slow and noisy. I always felt SSDs were always ignored in mainstream systems because of the price to capacity ratio. I can remember when 80GB SSDs were over £300 and were very unrealiable. We are at a point now where SSDs are becoming very cheap and mainstream. I've been waiting for this period to happen for 10 years. Even in the last couple of years we are seeing bigger SSDs are becoming the norm. I'm seeing 500GB SSD for relatively cheap. The more manufacturers of SSDs the better, it will keep competition high and prices low and we can evolve from this disk drive which has been plaguing system performance for far too long.

We're still a while away from SSD's truly competing IMO. I'd hate to think what backing up a blu ray (or god forbid 4K content when it arrives) collection would cost with solid state hardware. The other factors are the disparity between cheap MLC units and expensive SLC. Both spinners and SSD's have reliability issues, but if you get hold of a good mechanical drive it can last 20+ years, and some SSD's are yet to prove their superior longevity as Tech Report's ongoing endurance test proves - admittedly this is more a torture test exceeding most users wildest usage scenario's but SSD DOA and failure rates don't sit at 0% either.

 

[Aquinus]

We're still a while away from SSD's truly competing IMO. I'd hate to think what backing up a blu ray (or god forbid 4K content when it arrives) collection would cost with solid state hardware. The other factors are the disparity between cheap MLC units and expensive SLC. Both spinners and SSD's have reliability issues, but if you get hold of a good mechanical drive it can last 20+ years, and some SSD's are yet to prove their superior longevity as Tech Report's ongoing endurance test proves - admittedly this is more a torture test exceeding most users wildest usage scenario's but SSD DOA and failure rates don't sit at 0% either.

That's if performance and capacity are your only measures. Flash BGA chips are extremely thin and sip power where spinning disks are more bulky and use more power. For small devices, HDDs simply aren't an option simply because of the size. The fact that you can integrate DRAM, flash, CPU, and every other component on to a single PCB is a powerful thing where spinning disks don't make that possible. Right now there are markets for both as spinny disks are still optimal for mass storage due to their price and capacity compared to flash based storage. Each has their benefits and their drawbacks both of which depend highly on the intended use of the device.

All in all, flash has its purposes and HDDs have their own. It's really as simple as that unless SSD capacities continue to grow faster than HDDs and continue to drop in price. I could see there eventually coming a point (far down the road,) where SSDs will make HDDs obsolete but we're no where near there yet.

 

[ensabrenoir]

the spec looks good. I hope it doesn't overheat and loud

.....

why do emotions always run so high when it concerns Intel/AMD/Nvidia, I mean

were all just sports fans cheering on our favorite team....just so happens our teams are made of silicon and transistors

 

[fullinfusion]

While I was reading and in the back of my mind was "sounds like ocz" performance and I was pleased to see it is ocz. Sweet! Sign me up for one! I think its going to look sweet poking out of the top of my case

I'm thinking the 120gb one will be around $100 The 240 $149 and the 480 $229

Hurry and bring these sweet looking amd wrapped ocz's out already

 

[Aquinus]

While I was reading and in the back of my mind was "sounds like ocz" performance and I was pleased to see it is ocz. Sweet! Sign me up for one! I think its going to look sweet poking out of the top of my case

I'm thinking the 120gb one will be around $100 The 240 $149 and the 480 $229

Hurry and bring these sweet looking amd wrapped ocz's out already

If I can get a Crucial MX100 256GB for 100 USD, I definitely wouldn't buy any other 120GB for the same price.

 

[fullinfusion]

If I can get a Crucial MX100 256GB for 100 USD, I definitely wouldn't buy any other 120GB for the same price.

Tthese are my expected Canadian prices