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MSI TwinFrozr V Cooling Solution Teased

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MSI teased the first CGI sketches of its next-generation TwinFrozr V cooling solution, designed for high-end GPUs, under its Gaming Series. A prototype of the cooler made its first appearance at Computex 2014, in June. The cooler features a large dual-stack aluminium fin heatsink to which heat drawn from the GPU is fed by five 8 mm thick nickel-plated copper heat pipes. The fin-stack is ventilated by a pair of what's now appearing to be two 100 mm fans. MSI is rumored to be innovating a new impeller design that steps up air-flow to noise ratio.

It's interesting to note that in its CGI render of a card equipped with this cooler, MSI showed a PCB with two NVIDIA SLI bridge fingers, and two 6-pin PCIe power inputs. Could this be the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980, in effect making the card the MSI GTX 980 Gaming OC? Wait until the 19th of September to find out. GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 are NVIDIA's next high-end GPUs, based on the 28 nm "GM204" silicon, derived from the company's new "Maxwell" architecture.



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I like the design of the cooler.

However, GTX9xx is of little to no interest to me at this point.


I'd be happy if it drove down the prices on used 7xx's, though, or even if the (anticipated) rebranding of the 7's into 8xx's come in at a reasonable price... maybe they will even feature this type of cooler, which will be nice.
 
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I like the design of the cooler.

However, GTX9xx is of little to no interest to me at this point.


I'd be happy if it drove down the prices on used 7xx's, though, or even if the (anticipated) rebranding of the 7's into 8xx's come in at a reasonable price... maybe they will even feature this type of cooler, which will be nice.

You waiting next-gen just for lower old-gen prices? Sure you can get GTX 580 for $180 but GTX 760 for $240 is faster and less power hungry. Imo, it's better to get new mid-rage (GTX 960) and play with game settings. Still today games look 1:1 on high vs medium settings.

http://120hz.net/showthread.php?150...0b2c5b47eeccc994&p=21414&viewfull=1#post21414
 
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not great news if the 980 needs such a step up in cooling no?
 
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not great news if the 980 needs such a step up in cooling no?

My Gigabyte 780 has 2 x 8pins, perhaps if the 2 x 6pins are any indication of the maximum possible power draw, it might not be too bad. Either way, this is still 28nm, so who the hell cares, apart from NVidia's investors that is.
 
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haha, but it is 3 heatpipies in similar position, thats all... Did you know that most Far Eastern manufacture plants produce for many brands? All brands can do is TRY to distinguish them selves, like inventing ROG or ARES looks, or the Red Dragon stuff of MSI or the "Ultra Durable" of Gigabyte. Delete the aestetics and you have 90% equal products.
 
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Seems like they are using the same styling across their entire lineup of new motherboards (Z97 and X99 Gaming) as the video cards. It is not longer just color as it is now even the design with the red and black design matches the same style and design on the GPU as the heatsinks on the motherboards.

Very cool (no pun intended)!

As far as the discussion of the performance and the new GTX 980, if it does use 2 6 pin instead that could be very interesting as it states its power draw is very low. However personally I would rather have at least 1 8 pin and the 6 pin for the overclocking prowess and to give it any edge possible even if the difference would be minuscule. However for all we know this was just a quick made CGI rendering and they purposely did that or not even based on the GTX 980, we will just have to wait and see.
 
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not great news if the 980 needs such a step up in cooling no?

What?

 

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not great news if the 980 needs such a step up in cooling no?

How is it much of a step up? Its still the same basic heatsink design we have seen for years. Vendors always do some sort of tweaks to their cooling when new generation of cards is coming.
 
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it is a render of new cooling with more fat heatpipes no?

i just mean if they feel the need for this because of the new cards, compared to how the current cooling handles todays cores, it does not bode well.
 

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it is a render of new cooling with more fat heatpipes no?

i just mean if they feel the need for this because of the new cards, compared to how the current cooling handles todays cores, it does not bode well.

There is always a desire to make hardware run cooler. Why are you knocking it as a negative? There has always been changes too cooling be it reference or non-reference to cool better and be more quiet when it comes to next generation releases. I mean I am sure their current cooler could be slapped on a new card and be perfectly fine, but IMO with a new generation of cards coming its a perfect time to put some R&D into their cooler to make it even better.
 
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There is always a desire to make hardware run cooler. Why are you knocking it as a negative? There has always been changes too cooling be it reference or non-reference to cool better and be more quiet when it comes to next generation releases. I mean I am sure their current cooler could be slapped on a new card and be perfectly fine, but IMO with a new generation of cards coming its a perfect time to put some R&D into their cooler to make it even better.

yes, i am sure they are spending money for the sake of the end users....silly me.
 
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yes, i am sure they are spending money for the sake of the end users....silly me.
You want the customers to buy your product, and the competitors are making essentially the same thing. So what can you do? You can compete on price (basic PowerColor, Sapphire, Club3d products I guess), you can leverage your brand and marketing (e.g. Gigabyte), you can cater to enthusiasts (e.g MSI Lightning, PowerColor PCS+) or you can make your product quieter (MSI Gaming series).

MSI gaming series cards have been selling pretty well because at the end of the day the color of the paint slapped on the shroud or the 3% performance increase matters little in comparison to noise that you hear every time you put some load on the card. Check out Gaming series 280X or GTX770 reviews here on tpu, they are exceptionally quiet cards, and that's what people pay for.
 
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funny you say that about the msi g range. do you have 1?

my 290x gamer is far from quiet and i picked as it is red and matches my ram.

i aint sure what world some people live in, but i wish it was the case where big corps would spend money they didn't need to on improving things like load temps or noise envelopes so the end user was happy.

i so want to live in that world.

i mean going from history what msi do when they want to sell cards is ship them out to reviewers with special sauce bios which has higher clocks and slower fans on cherry picked cores.
 
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So MSI used a cooling solution designed for mainstream cards so they could rush their 290x to the market and you are surprised it cannot keep up? And you picked it so it matches your carpet? That's pretty funny.
 

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funny you say that about the msi g range. do you have 1?

my 290x gamer is far from quiet and i picked as it is red and matches my ram.

i aint sure what world some people live in, but i wish it was the case where big corps would spend money they didn't need to on improving things like load temps or noise envelopes so the end user was happy.

i so want to live in that world.

i mean going from history what msi do when they want to sell cards is ship them out to reviewers with special sauce bios which has higher clocks and slower fans on cherry picked cores.

Everyone does that.........
 
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So MSI used a cooling solution designed for mainstream cards so they could rush their 290x to the market and you are surprised it cannot keep up? And you picked it so it matches your carpet? That's pretty funny.

no, what's funny is a username like yours voicing his own opinion as if it was what someone else said :lol:

i didnt say it couldnt keep up, it keeps up with 780ti's just fine. it just makes more noise whilst it does xD

but it is still not great news if this new card needs even more cooling than this does. more so now the performance figures are leaking out and it is worse than this too.
 
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nice taller cooler not wider
im interested how if they tweak something and make it passive cooler in the future
 
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