• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

MSI Holding Off on GTX 980 Lightning, in Anticipation of Bigger Chip

Joined
Mar 28, 2014
Messages
586 (0.15/day)
Processor AMD FX-8320
Motherboard AsRock 970 PRO3 R2.0
Cooling Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme + 2 LED Green fans
Memory 2 x 4096 MB DDR3-1333 A-Data
Video Card(s) SAPPHIRE 4096M R9 FURY X 4G D5
Storage ST1000VX000 • SV35.6 Series™ 1000 GB 7200 rpm
Display(s) Acer S277HK wmidpp 27" 4K (3840 x 2160) IPS
Case Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Black + Red Lights
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek
Power Supply OCZ ProXStream 1000W
Mouse Genius NetScroll 100X
Keyboard Logitech Wave
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Once upon a time there were better times. :( Wondering when we will enjoy good times again.

...resulting price-cuts for the GTX 780, throwing MSI's inventories in jeopardy...

What about cost cuts inside companies, throwing employees in jeopardy without jobs??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Do they feel for all these people or their destinies don't matter anything?!

?

I know they don't care but....... just asking, perhaps there are some with conscience/consciousness still left in them.
 
Last edited:

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast
Supporter
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Messages
14,010 (2.34/day)
Location
Louisiana
Processor Core i9-9900k
Motherboard ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
Cooling All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax ETS-T50 Black CPU cooler
Memory 32GB (2x16) Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200
Video Card(s) ASUS RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB
Storage 1x 1TB MX500 (OS); 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 2TB MX500; 1x 1TB BX500 SSD; 1x 6TB WD Blue storage (eSATA)
Display(s) Infievo 27" 165Hz @ 2560 x 1440
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Black -windowed
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-1000 Gold
Mouse Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!)
Keyboard Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)
Once upon a time there were better times. :( Wondering when we will enjoy good times again.

...resulting price-cuts for the GTX 780, throwing MSI's inventories in jeopardy...

What about cost cuts inside companies, throwing employees in jeopardy without jobs??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Do they feel for all these people or their destinies don't matter anything?!

?

I know they don't care but....... just asking, perhaps there are some with conscience/consciousness still left in them.

It's not the job of any business to care about their employees more than what it takes to have them help the business make money. All morality aside, small business owners have an obligation to feed and clothe their own families, and larger companies have an obligation to make money for either their owners or shareholders. Whether an employee has a job or not is never on any business' mind if they want to survive in the cuthroat competitive business world. Employees are a resource, that if reasonably paid and taken care of will also work toward that goal for a company. However, if income is not coming in, a business certainly cannot keep people employed just to take care of them...or the business will cease to exist.
 
Joined
Mar 28, 2014
Messages
586 (0.15/day)
Processor AMD FX-8320
Motherboard AsRock 970 PRO3 R2.0
Cooling Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme + 2 LED Green fans
Memory 2 x 4096 MB DDR3-1333 A-Data
Video Card(s) SAPPHIRE 4096M R9 FURY X 4G D5
Storage ST1000VX000 • SV35.6 Series™ 1000 GB 7200 rpm
Display(s) Acer S277HK wmidpp 27" 4K (3840 x 2160) IPS
Case Cooler Master HAF 912 Plus Black + Red Lights
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek
Power Supply OCZ ProXStream 1000W
Mouse Genius NetScroll 100X
Keyboard Logitech Wave
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
However, if income is not coming in, a business certainly cannot keep people employed just to take care of them...or the business will cease to exist.

That's essentially false, there are many examples when an up-and-running rich wealthy company does it only because they wanna even more profit, or just because of their greed.
 

rtwjunkie

PC Gaming Enthusiast
Supporter
Joined
Jul 25, 2008
Messages
14,010 (2.34/day)
Location
Louisiana
Processor Core i9-9900k
Motherboard ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 6
Cooling All air: 2x140mm Fractal exhaust; 3x 140mm Cougar Intake; Enermax ETS-T50 Black CPU cooler
Memory 32GB (2x16) Mushkin Redline DDR-4 3200
Video Card(s) ASUS RTX 4070 Ti Super OC 16GB
Storage 1x 1TB MX500 (OS); 2x 6TB WD Black; 1x 2TB MX500; 1x 1TB BX500 SSD; 1x 6TB WD Blue storage (eSATA)
Display(s) Infievo 27" 165Hz @ 2560 x 1440
Case Fractal Design Define R4 Black -windowed
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster Z
Power Supply Seasonic Focus GX-1000 Gold
Mouse Coolermaster Sentinel III (large palm grip!)
Keyboard Logitech G610 Orion mechanical (Cherry Brown switches)
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (Start10 & Fences 3.0 installed)
That's essentially false, there are many examples when an up-and-running rich wealthy company does it only because they wanna even more profit, or just because of their greed.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. It sounds like you are saying a wealthy company provides free jobs so they can make more profit or greed?

A business operates to make money, period. Business do not survive as a business if they are not trying to make money. It's not greed. It's survival.

If you've ever owned a business, or ever will, you will see that the bottom line is you need income to provide for your own family...because you are the one who took the risk to open a business. As your business grows, you will hire employess to help you meet that end. Major corporations are the same way. They cannot employ more people for long than it takes to meet their goals. If you ever work as a manager in a major corporation, you will see this as well.
 
Joined
Feb 27, 2014
Messages
108 (0.03/day)
Location
Louisiana
System Name Frankenrig
Processor i7-3770@3.70Ghz
Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme6
Cooling Xigmatex Dark Knight II cpu cooler, 5x140mm Fractal Design fans
Memory 4x4Gb Mushkin DDR3-1600
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 970 100ME
Storage 1x120GB M500 SSD; 1x1TB WD Black; WD RE4 500GB; 1x150GB Velociraptor; 1x500GB Blue; 1x1TB WD Green (
Display(s) HP 25xi IPS 25"
Case White Fractal Desigh Define R4
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1 PCI
Power Supply Seasonic X-850
Software W8.1 64bit
Major corporations are the same way. They cannot employ more people for long than it takes to meet their goals.
Companies are in business to make money while meeting the needs of their customers, not to employ people. Employees are hired to meet the needs of a company's goal and in turn, they are paid. For instance, companies may hire temporary or seasonal workers to clear up a backlog of orders. The reason for temps is that the company meets the needs of customers as well as maximize profit without the cost of overhead (i.e. health benefits, 401k, vacation, etc.). This does not make them greedy, just good business minded. They have an obligation to shareholders to maximize profit and to customers by providing quality product or service.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
1,027 (0.22/day)
Location
New Jersey, USA
System Name Current Rig
Processor AMD 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI x670e Tomahawk wifi
Cooling Artic Freezer II 360
Memory G.Skill 32gb ddr5 6000mhz
Video Card(s) AMD 7900XTX 24 GB
Storage Samsung SSD 980 PRO 2TB
Display(s) Alienware 3420DW 120 Freesync
Case LianLi Lancool III white non-rgb
Audio Device(s) Onboard ALC
Power Supply Corsair Shift 1000W
Mouse G502 Hero
Keyboard Ducky Shine 5
Software Win 11 64bit
Benchmark Scores The second best!
Once upon a time there were better times. :( Wondering when we will enjoy good times again.

...resulting price-cuts for the GTX 780, throwing MSI's inventories in jeopardy...

What about cost cuts inside companies, throwing employees in jeopardy without jobs??????????????????????????????????????????????????? Do they feel for all these people or their destinies don't matter anything?!

?

I know they don't care but....... just asking, perhaps there are some with conscience/consciousness still left in them.

Companies only care about "profit margins" and this means squeezing personnel, vendors, governmental tax authorities. Very sad.
 

fullinfusion

Vanguard Beta Tester
Joined
Jan 11, 2008
Messages
9,909 (1.60/day)
This, these!! will be in my case when they come out shy a kidney of coarse!

intel 6 core rig here we come!
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2010
Messages
22 (0.00/day)
this just confirm a 980 Ti is sure to be released ...

Big LOL to all of you raging to buy a 980 today... :laugh:

Yep. Time and time again, people never learn the cycle for the money grabs. Just like how I and a bunch of other Titan owners got burned after Nvidia launched the 780 Ti. Flagship card gets obsoleted in mere months, what a joke. Not making that mistake again.
 

Mindweaver

Moderato®™
Staff member
Joined
Apr 16, 2009
Messages
8,295 (1.45/day)
Location
Charleston, SC
System Name Tower of Power / Delliverance
Processor i7 14700K / i9-14900K
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 / Z690
Cooling CM MasterLiquid ML360 Mirror ARGB Close-Loop AIO / Air
Memory CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3600 / DDR5 2x 16gb
Video Card(s) ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 4070 Ti / GeForce RTX 4080
Storage 4x Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2, 2x Crucial 1TB SSD / NVM3 PC801 SK hynix 1TB
Display(s) Samsung 32" Odyssy G5 Gaming 144hz 1440p, 2x LG HDR 32" 60hz 4k / 2x LG HDR 32" 60hz 4k
Case Phantek "400A" / Dell XPS 8960
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC4080 / Sound Blaster X1
Power Supply Corsair RM Series RM750 / 750w
Mouse Razer Deathadder V3 Hyperspeed Wireless / Glorious Gaming Model O 2 Wireless
Keyboard Glorious GMMK with box-white switches / Keychron K6 pro with blue swithes
VR HMD Quest 3 (512gb) + Rift S + HTC Vive + DK1
Software Windows 11 Pro x64 / Windows 11 Pro x64
Benchmark Scores Yes
I'm hoping they make another P.E. (Power Edition) version for the 9XX series. My GTX680 P.E. has everything the lighting does, but dual bios and lower clocks. It clocks well past the lighting model, plus it can be flashed to the lighting model with out any problems and it's a lot cheaper compared. Physically it looks the same. Even if they don't I'll probably hold out for a lighting model.

I don't think it's a bad thing for MSi to wait for the Ti models to come out, because it probably really hurt the GTX780 lighting sales not being a Ti.
 

freaksavior

To infinity ... and beyond!
Joined
Dec 11, 2006
Messages
8,095 (1.23/day)
System Name ZeroUptime | M.A.S.S / MM1
Processor Xeon 2659 v3 / Xeon 2683 v4 / ARM A14
Motherboard Asus X99-E-10G WS / ASRock x99 usb 3.1 / Apple
Cooling NZXT Kraken / Noctua NH-L12 / Apple
Memory 16Gb DDR4 / 32Gb DDR4 / 16GB HBLM
Video Card(s) Powercooler ATI vega 64 / GT 7300 / ARM
Storage Samsung 970 512 Evo NVMe / A lot. / 256 + 512 External TB3
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 / Headless / Acer X34 Non predator
Case NZXT H630 |Rosewill 8bay 4u server chasiss / MMM1
Audio Device(s) Onboard / Onboard / Onboard
Power Supply Corais HX850 | Corsair TX750 / Internal 250w
Mouse g502 proteus core / Headless / g502 proteus core
Keyboard Corsair K95 Cherry Blue / Headless / K65 Cherry Red
Software Windows 10 / ESXI / Big Sur 11.2.2
Sounds a lot like the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
 
Joined
May 15, 2008
Messages
2,863 (0.47/day)
Location
Brasil
System Name Sovereign // HTPC
Processor i7 3770k 4.2 // i7 3770k 4.2
Motherboard Maximus V Gene // Sabertooth Z77
Cooling Noctua D14 // Intel HSF
Memory 16GB Samsung // 16GB VengeanceLP
Video Card(s) Deciding // 660 DC2
Storage OS (X25-M), Data (Seagate 1TB) // Samsung 840 120GB & bunch of drives
Display(s) Samsung T240HD // LG TV
Case TJ08e // Grandia GD08
Audio Device(s) DT880 Pro 250 ohm // TV speakers
Power Supply Seasonic Plat 1000 // Seasonic Gold 760
Software Windows 8 Pro x64 // Windows 7 Pro x64
nice cause 980Ti is true
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,759 (1.40/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals
I would never have spend more, in first place, and second place, you didn't know that there will always be a newer, better part in the future, always always always? Such a noob!


Boris beats me but still an opportunity to post a pic of my wall museum. I also had the Geforce 256 and GF 2 Ti but must have given them to someone. Ti was always Titanium for me, must come from somewhere : )

View attachment 59331
I only got attracted by that 3Dfx VooDoo card. That card my friend, was for PC gaming, what wheel was for the human when first discovered.
 
Joined
Jul 16, 2014
Messages
26 (0.01/day)
Location
Sydney, Australia
System Name Da Swift
Processor Intel i7 4770K
Motherboard ASUS Maximus VI Formula
Cooling Corsair H80i
Memory Kingston 16GB 1600Mhz
Video Card(s) 2x MSI R9 290X Gaming 4G OC (Crossfire)
Storage Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB (OS) Rapid, Samsung 840 EVO 256GB
Display(s) ASUS Swift PG278Q
Case Antec 900 II V3
Audio Device(s) Astro A50 Headset, Logitech Speakers
Power Supply Seasonic 1000w 80 Plus Platnum
Software Windows 8.1 64bit (Classic Shell - Windows 7 Theme)
Benchmark Scores 3DMark Fire Strike - 16353 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2911875
These cards are so big, they should release the Lightning series with EK water blocks. That PCB is the sexy part ;)
Most of the lightning owners end up doing that any way.
 
Top