Microsoft Announces Windows 10 Operating System

[R-T-B]

Windows 8 has something, though it isn't quite Aero (and it performs better as such).

 

[Ahhzz]

This feature alone will be a price for admission for many users and it runs well in the technical preview right now.

It would be if they allowed you to dedicate cores to a desktop!

 

[remixedcat]

Windows 8 has something, though it isn't quite Aero (and it performs better as such).

DWM so it still uses composititor but not glass.

 

[Octopuss]

Bleh, I really like how Win7 looks. I lived most of my life on classic Windows 2000-like settings, and with 7 I started to enjoy some visual eye candy

 

[Steevo]

Linux is still the Linux kernel. What, were you expecting a rewrite from scratch? Only colossal fucksups (ie, the 9x series) mandate that.

Oh, and the best OS ironically in the 98ish era wasn't 98 or 2000. It was a little known OS known as IBM OS/2 Warp 4. Miles ahead but almost immediately killed upon release, because the company knew they had lost and wouldn't even preload it on their own hardware.

It used roughly the same kernel as windows did (also the reason its never became open source), which was a bloated top heavy unsecured beauty, and why we had such a huge rash of networms and other security exploits, any driver that was kernel level or loaded or hooked protected memory could install itself along side the kernel and intercept data, and it was so easy to do it if I haven't mentioned that before. All you had to do is create and load a driver in .sys format that loaded in whatever was left of the lowmem, usually at least half to a third was left, create a pool of reserved memory and run whatever badness you desired, from keylogging, to remote connections, a new boot sector, that may or may not format your drive.

I only got to use it for awhile on green screen emulators before we moved away to Win 98 and 2000.

 

[R-T-B]

It used roughly the same kernel as windows did (also the reason its never became open source), which was a bloated top heavy unsecured beauty, and why we had such a huge rash of networms and other security exploits, any driver that was kernel level or loaded or hooked protected memory could install itself along side the kernel and intercept data, and it was so easy to do it if I haven't mentioned that before. All you had to do is create and load a driver in .sys format that loaded in whatever was left of the lowmem, usually at least half to a third was left, create a pool of reserved memory and run whatever badness you desired, from keylogging, to remote connections, a new boot sector, that may or may not format your drive.

I only got to use it for awhile on green screen emulators before we moved away to Win 98 and 2000.

Are you refering to OS/2? Because everything con-wise you mentioned was present in Windows 9x as well re the security model.

As for being bloated and top-heavy and "roughly same kernel as Windows," that's all 100% false. The kernel was independently developed at IBM, and I ran Warp 4 on a 486 and it was actually SNAPPY. Granted, I had 32MBs of ram in that 486 which was largely unheard of back then, but point stands.

 

[AsRock]

I said before, metro/modern sucks from a productivity standpoint - give ME the option of old interface. I will stay consistent and agree with you, keep metro/modern and give YOU the choice.

Yup, as i said in another w10 thread that MS should of added XP \ 7\ 8 looks options to please more people young or old who don't want or have time keep learning were shit has been moved too.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

As long as they don't dump metro for an antiqued interface Ill be happy. I want the option to keep metro. Curious to see what security improvements they bring in Win10.

That's what I want. I have come to love metro/modern UI. Find it hard to go back.

 

[Solaris17]

Why do we have to use this thread because it was made news when the other one was 7 pages long with useful information?

 

[Scrizz]

Why do we have to use this thread because it was made news when the other one was 7 pages long with useful information?

^THIS!

 

[remixedcat]

Why do we have this thread because it was made news when the other one was 7 pages long with useful information?

Yeah this thread is the general one and the other was our experinces

 

[Mussels]

We can merge threads, but it takes someone who's a mod/admin of both threads.

for something like windows 10 which will have many news articles in its time, one thread made more sense to me (but i wasnt involved in its closure, or whatever happened to it)

 

[xenocide]

The News section also gets much more traffic.

 

[remixedcat]

thing is a buncha tech help for windows 10 might not flow well if people are just talking about the other crap with it. There should be a "general" and a "support/experience" thread like before. Both threads flowed differently.

 

[micropage7]

its interesting
http://lifehacker.com/the-coolest-windows-10-features-microsoft-didnt-announc-1642802880

 

[Aquinus]

its interesting
http://lifehacker.com/the-coolest-windows-10-features-microsoft-didnt-announc-1642802880

I like how they put the "Previous versions" tab in there as a "new feature" when this has been part of Windows since Windows 7. The difference is that you need to configure system restore to make versions of your docs. Just saying.

 

[remixedcat]

Speccy don't work on windows 10

 

[RealNeil]

Neither does CPU-Z

 

[95Viper]

An interesting article over at MaximumPC --> Microsoft Explains Key Logging Activities in Windows 10 Technical Preview

'You agreed to it, sucka!'

Complaints are starting to roll in that the Windows 10 Technical Preview is overstepping its bounds with the amount of information it collects, and some have even categorized the OS as a keylogger of sorts.

Turns out it's true -- the Windows 10 Technical Preview does record keystrokes in certain situations, and it also mines quite a bit of personal data. However, Microsoft contends that these methods are all laid out in the Terms of Use -- the fine print filled with legalese that we all make sure to read, right? -- and by downloading and installing the software, you agreed to the data collection.

"When you acquire, install and use the Program, Microsoft collects information about you, your devices, applications and networks, and your use of those devices, applications and networks," Microsoft states.
Microsoft goes on to give examples of the data it collects, which includes your name, email address, preferences and interests, browsing, search and file history, phone call and SMS data, device configuration and sensor data, and application usage. However, it's this entry that has people comparing the Technical Preview to a keylogger: "When you open a file, we may collect information about the file, the application used to open the file and how long it takes and use it for purposes such as improving performance; or enter text, we may collect typed characters and use them for purposes such as improving auto-complete and spell check features," Microsoft explains.

 

[Aquinus]

An interesting article over at MaximumPC --> Microsoft Explains Key Logging Activities in Windows 10 Technical Preview

They want to know how a bug occurred and the best way to know that is recording everything. That doesn't mean I agree with it though, I just understand the cases where such data collection could be useful for developers but it's clearly a power that could be abused easily.

 

[remixedcat]

This is why I'm testing it in a VM on a seperate VLAN and on my laptop it's on a different VLAN as well. Also using fresh accounts to manage logins and also gonna change the Guest VLAN SSID password after I'm done with testing.

 

[Nordic]

I have win10 on a crunching rig.. If microsoft wanted to steal my WCG login and crunch for me on some of their servers I wouldn't mind. Otherwise they won't get anything useful.

 

[...PACMAN...]

Anyone know a similar program to CPUz that will work on the technical preview? Can't get CPUz to work.

 

[remixedcat]

same here can't seem to get one that works.

Also on the following site: http://alternativeto.net/software/speccy/

DO NOT GET THIS APP:

Webroot detected that devs site as malware

 

[Octopuss]

An interesting article over at MaximumPC --> Microsoft Explains Key Logging Activities in Windows 10 Technical Preview

I fail to see a single reason why should they collect my name and contents of SMS messages I send/receive. This is fucking ridiculous.