Acer Announces XG270HU Monitor with AMD Freesync

[arbiter]

TN still? And it should be at least displayport 1.2a, 1.2.

Yea IPS 144hz only just announced at CES so price will be at a point i doubt freesync will be on them cause AMD is the "bargin brand"

Yawn. Wake me when AMD is brave enough to allow a third party to show FreeSync demo's running GAMES side by side with G-Sync.
I don't buy stuff based solely on marketing speak and specs. I have more sense than that.

I agree, Only thing seen of Freesync is demo setup by AMD. Nothing outside their control so they will set it up to be perfectly optimal to make it look perfect.

well cant speak really about "buying stuff" as with freesync its just (soon) standard in all monitors, you just get it with it because its build in the display port which is one of the ports you can hook your gear up with, along side HDMI, DVI, VGA.
Now Gsync, that adds to the pricetag....quite a bit as well, that needs some convincing.

Freesync isn't the standard, it makes Use of the standard but its AMD proprietary software. Even the standard is Optional part of it.

isn't that adaptive sync optional even to DP1.3 spec? monitor maker can exclude adaptive sync from regular monitor and leverage that 'optional' option to charge extra for monitors that support adaptive sync.

Its 1.2a spec but it Optional part of the spec as way it works required new hardware in the monitor to work properly. At risk of flak, AMD claimed when they announced it, you wouldn't need any new hardware and some current monitors would support it, which not surprisingly was a bit of a lie.

why bring in G-Sync? i'm not talking about GSync vs FreeSync at all. what i mean is there could be two monitors with both having DP1.3. but since Adaptive Sync only optional to the spec monitor maker can make two version of the same monitor. one with adaptive sync and the other without it. then sell the one with adaptive sync at much higher price. yes the cost on monitor maker are small or none at all but it still doesn't stop them from charging premium price for 'gaming' feature like adaptive sync.

Yea they could make 2 monitors 100% identical in hardware and design, just

So with demanding games free sync is good only for flagship cards where frame rate doesn't go under 40 (or 30 for that one model). If I understand correctly, below that screen goes dark?
I think I saw similar behaviour with mobile gsync in that leaked nvidia drivers at pcper:

Reason that happened was it was a Alpha beta driver, if screen doesn't get new data to update after so many xx seconds that is what will happen. Nvidia with g-sync has ram built in to module so it stores video data to keep something refreshing on screen in case fps goes from like 55fps to 10 fps. That is just an example.

I think Freesync is limited to 40hz/fps at lowest, g-sync i know can go down to 30.

One thing for sure, buying nVidia you will be paying out the ass for it too.
Too me either of them are way to early to buy in to, sooner or later their be Freesync\GSync combined unless NV play a hole ooh i mean if some one play a hole..

Least with G-sync, nvidia can ADD features to it at will, the standard route amd went well they are limited to what standard allows. New tech is always expensive at first. Gotta praise Nvidia for pushing this tech in to the market, well over due for something new on monitor side that hasn't had anything big since LCD monitors.

 

[Cybrnook2002]

You guys know about Asus having a 120 hz IPS free-sync monitor coming out, right? (Sorry "Adaptive sync" seeing as its not AMD certified yet)

http://rog.asus.com/393632015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-mg279q-27-inch-wqhd-ips-at-120hz/

 

[arbiter]

You guys know about Asus having a 120 hz IPS free-sync monitor coming out, right? (Sorry "Adaptive sync" seeing as its not AMD certified yet)

http://rog.asus.com/393632015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-mg279q-27-inch-wqhd-ips-at-120hz/

Um no where on that page does it say freesync or adaptive sync. I see G-sync but nothing about other one.

 

[Cybrnook2002]

Um no where on that page does it say freesync or adaptive sync. I see G-sync but nothing about other one.

Sorry, let me google another article that can explain it to you more.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/...2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor

Basically its a 1.2a DP spec monitor, meaning its adaptive sync. However it has not been "blessed" via AMD's certification program to have the freesync sticker put on the box. Either way, this is the monitor I am holding out for. Adaptive sync, IPS, 120+ hz..... That will get my money.

 

[arbiter]

Sorry, let me google another article that can explain it to you more.
http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/...2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor

Basically its a 1.2a DP spec monitor, meaning its adaptive sync. However it has not been "blessed" via AMD's certification program to have the freesync sticker put on the box. Either way, this is the monitor I am holding out for. Adaptive sync, IPS, 120+ hz..... That will get my money.

the 1.2a spec if you were able to read, adaptive sync is an OPTIONAL part of the spec its not required to be 1.2a certified. 1.2a was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#1.2a

 

[Cybrnook2002]

the 1.2a spec if you were able to read, adaptive sync is an OPTIONAL part of the spec its not required to be 1.2a certified. 1.2a was

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort#1.2a

Did you read the article and watch the video? Perhaps the "AMD confirms" portions were missed....?

However, now that I read your responses to everyone else above, I feel like me continuing to try and help you will be pointless as I am not trying to argue semantics, only share info. Nevertheless, info is there for others.

And yes, I am able to read. Thanks for the concern, it is much appreciated. People like you make this forum no fun anymore....

 

[MxPhenom 216]

absolutely beautiful i think its time for me to get on the 1440p bandwagon

If its a TN panel I sure wouldn't.

 

[GhostRyder]

You guys know about Asus having a 120 hz IPS free-sync monitor coming out, right? (Sorry "Adaptive sync" seeing as its not AMD certified yet)

http://rog.asus.com/393632015/gaming-monitors/ces-2015-mg279q-27-inch-wqhd-ips-at-120hz/

I heard about it though had not seen much of it. Sounds like a real winner to me though I will be waiting to hear more on it in the future.

Still being a childish 50+yr old and reflecting your inner issues at me.

You were expecting more?

 

[Jurassic1024]

well cant speak really about "buying stuff" as with freesync its just (soon) standard in all monitors, you just get it with it because its build in the display port which is one of the ports you can hook your gear up with, along side HDMI, DVI, VGA.

Now Gsync, that adds to the pricetag....quite a bit as well, that needs some convincing.

You're confusing FreeSync with VRR monitors. FreeSync is not taking over, because it requires specific AMD GPU's to work.

 

[AsRock]

So basically G Sync or FreeSync or worth buying in to at this time, both have issue's so just trading one issue for another issue at your cost.

Screw that shit, best part is NV have the nerve to charge you for it.

 

[jigar2speed]

Screw that shit, best part is NV have the nerve to charge you for it.

Huh, What, Seriously ??

 

[AsRock]

Huh, What, Seriously ??

You Pay extra for G Sync, i'll just keep waiting till they both iron out the bugs or they release a none buggy revision.
To me shit like that in that video posted paying $500+ for a monitor for buggy ass shit like that how rare it happens or what ever excuse you can find to find it worth it, well it's not to me.

 

[arbiter]

Did you read the article and watch the video? Perhaps the "AMD confirms" portions were missed....?

However, now that I read your responses to everyone else above, I feel like me continuing to try and help you will be pointless as I am not trying to argue semantics, only share info. Nevertheless, info is there for others.

And yes, I am able to read. Thanks for the concern, it is much appreciated. People like you make this forum no fun anymore....

its funny how you claim to be trying to "help", if you want to help start by speaking the truth of matters and not half truths. Even half truth is stretch.

 

[Xzibit]

its funny how you claim to be trying to "help", if you want to help start by speaking the truth of matters and not half truths. Even half truth is stretch.

I don't know how you were able to miss it since he linked it for you.

Here you go AGAIN!!!.

TheTechReport - Asus MQ279Q display melds IPS panel, variable refresh

While it lacks FreeSync or G-Sync branding, the MG279Q supports the DisplayPort 1.2a specification with Adaptive-Sync. Translation: it does have a variable refresh rate, despite what we initially surmised. We're told the monitor will be able to sync up its refresh rate with FreeSync-capable Radeon graphics cards. As to why it has that capability without the FreeSync label, we don't yet have a clear answer.

PCPerspective - CES 2015: ASUS MG279Q 27-in 2560x1440 IPS 120 Hz Variable Refresh Monitor

First, let's talk about the hardware. The screen is a 27-in 2560x1440 display with IPS panel technology and a maximum refresh rate of 120 Hz. High refresh rate IPS monitors are brand new and we are glad to see that ASUS is bringing one to the market so we can finally combine great color, great viewing angles and great refresh rates. The monitor supports DP 1.2a+ and Adaptive Sync which leads us too...

...the fact that this monitor will work with AMD Radeon graphics cards and operate at a variable refresh rate. After talking with AMD's Robert Hallock at the show, he confirmed that AMD will not have a whitelist/blacklist policy for FreeSync displays and that as long as a monitor adheres to the standards of DP 1.2a+ then they will operate in the variable refresh rate window as defined by the display's EDID.

 

[Recus]

Screw that shit, best part is NV have the nerve to charge you for it.

I heard FreeSync is free...

I also heard G-Sync is ~350$ more expensive...

 

[hardcore_gamer]

Your comprehension must be a bad as your butthurt. I certainly can't see any "downplaying AMD" in my posts here...and I certainly imparted more relevance to the thread than you have.

There's always hope, right?

Actually he has a point. I'm a nvidia fan and never buy an AMD card. I like the experience they provide. But it gets annoying when certain people comes to every thread and defend nvidia even if they make anti-customer moves, and bashes the competition for everything they do. I don't even understand why you guys take this like a religion.

 

[HumanSmoke]

The G-Sync analogue for that Acer Predator XG277HU FreeSync monitor looks to be the XB270HU which is pretty pricey (but at least is an IPS panel) compared to the FreeSync version if those prices are accurate. Both are 2560x1440, 144Hz panels with similar specs, although I can't fathom why the G-Sync version has a fully adjustable stand, and the FreeSync has a crappy fixed stand with what looks like basic tilt.

Actually he has a point. I'm a nvidia fan and never buy an AMD card*. I like the experience they provide. But it gets annoying when certain people comes to every thread and defend nvidia even if they make anti-customer moves

I think you'll find that I separate personal opinion from an objective understanding of how business works. I'm on record as saying that the companies practices are distasteful to me as a customer, but from a business standpoint enable the company to stay solvent. There isn't as much overlap as some seem to think.

and bashes the competition for everything they do.

Really? I take AMD hardware on individual merit. If you can find examples where I haven't I'd love to be reminded.
I usually reserve AMD bashing to two criteria:
1. AMD's board and their lack of strategic goal setting. The BoD has a proven track record of incompetence and a lack of clearly defined (and actually completed) strategic goals. Too often content to play "follow the leader" rather than define and shape a market. (Cue calls of "they don't have the resources"....Of course they don't. Bad business decisions stripped them of cash, assets, and the ability to compete in many markets).
2. Hardcore AMD fanboys - whom I generally find to be sanctimonious and mostly divorced from reality. The stuck record mantra of next year WILL be the year the company crushes Intel and Nvidia has become a homage to self-parody almost as great as Liverpool supporters announcing their annual pre-season prediction of a Premier League title. Not to say that the hardcore Nvidia variety aren't also deluded, but I don't see many blind to the company ethos that the Sunnyvale militia seem to manage.

* I have, and have no problem shelling out for Radeon cards if they best meet my requirements. Having said that, I haven't owned an AMD card since the Evergreen series ( HD 5850's and briefly a HD 5970 which was also an AMD processor system back when I ran two main systems).

 

[arbiter]

Screw that shit, best part is NV have the nerve to charge you for it.

Hypothetically, Do you think AMD would give it out for free if they had a choice? Switch Nvidia and AMD positions in terms of market share and profits, Do you think AMD would give stuff out for free to help the nvidia?

I heard FreeSync is free...

I also heard G-Sync is ~350$ more expensive...

Yea where is that one monitor that supposed to support free-sync with a bios update? yea g-sync does have extra cost on monitor that is high now, but with more out there it gets cheaper.
There was a monitor AMD said that could do it but its no where to be found.

^ June of 2014. (edit: he talks about it at right about 1 hour mark. pressing play starts it at 59m 35sec.)

 

[xfia]

it might not be like they put it off to be but what even really is..
seems to be freesync monitors are coming out cheaper than gsync started as but now that they are both out the prices will come down.
the competition is good and its great to see monitors badged for gaming with great specs that are meant to get rid of the hassle of vsync.

 

[HumanSmoke]

it might not be like they put it off to be but what even really is..
seems to be freesync monitors are coming out cheaper than gsync started as but now that they are both out the prices will come down.
the competition is good and its great to see monitors badged for gaming with great specs that are meant to get rid of the hassle of vsync.

Nice to see the range of models expanding. I think I'd be tempted if I could get a high refresh IPS panel without an AG coating.

 

[xfia]

cant believe this has more views than pcper vids..

 

[john_]

I see people posting monitors supporting FreeSync and saying "look it has a price tag on it" and I wonder. Are they trolling are are they complete brainless? FreeSync doesn't mean FreeMonitor.

 

[renz496]

I see people posting monitors supporting FreeSync and saying "look it has a price tag on it" and I wonder. Are they trolling are are they complete brainless? FreeSync doesn't mean FreeMonitor.

then AMD probably should not use the word 'free' to begin with.

 

[AsRock]

OMG, either one you have to buy a new monitor just that you don't have to pay the extra $50+ for G Sync which is buggy by the looks of it how ever much it shines when working right.

Like paying nVidia tax.

 

[ZoneDymo]

then AMD probably should not use the word 'free' to begin with.

how so? the Sync is free, the monitor is not.
Can I not sell a car and throw in some free winter tires in the deal without people then assuming the entire car is free as well?