NVIDIA Readying GM200-based GeForce GTX 980 Ti

[dj-electric]

With NVIDIA's own foot-shot restrictions on TITAN X, if 980 TI will use 100% of its internal components, i have 0 doubt it will be far supirior because of the use of custom PCB and coolers

 

[GreiverBlade]

... well ...

wahahaahahahahahahhahahahaha

okay ... now i can go work with a huge smile on my face ... bahaha
hint "lube edition Ti"


second thought ... well nvidia you are finished for me, no more GTX card i'm fed up.
my 290 will surely hold enough long until some 390X will hit the 2nd hand market (well ... i might keep nvidia as a favorit for SOC ... my Tegra K1 is a beauty in my shield tablet but for GPU nah ... nothing more to see )

 

[RCoon]

Videocardz is saying the GM200 will be clocked faster than the Titan X and will be priced at $600.
$600 doesn't seem right to me considering the much slower GTX 980 is $550.

With Kepler, the 780ti replaced the 780 in the product stack's pricing point on release (when 780 released, it was £550, when the 780ti released, it was £550, and the 780 was reduced to compete based on its performance). I believe the same will happen with the 980 and ti variant. 980 will probably see a price reduction to compete with the 390X based on price/performance.

far supirior because of the use of custom PCB and coolers

This is why the ti will be faster than the Titan X. AIB custom cards, better parts and better cooler, reducing or eliminating throttling from heat.

 

[rtwjunkie]

Indeed!

Let's hope we get the power without the extortionate price this time.

My money is on GTX 780 release prices, adjusted for inflation. They are following the kepler release script for the most part. The only think I am seeing different is this time the cut down GM200 isn't starting a new product line number.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Bend over edition

 

[qubit]

Let's hope the 390x is a real performance monster and forces nvidia to reduce its prices.

 

[DinaAngel]

i might sell my titan x later in the year. maybe wait until pascal. i need it for now

 

[newtekie1]

Did anyone not see this coming? I mean, honestly, if you though nVidia wasn't going to release cut down version of GM200 for better values than Titan-X you're an idiot.

 

[DinaAngel]

Did anyone not see this coming?

even if u buy a 980TI then it will be replaced in February next year or so.
buy when u need and replace.
iv bought new almost every year

i got a 690 laying around, and 3 7970s, and got 2 780s.
its getting crowded

 

[64K]

Just basing the GM200/6GB on price/performance compared to the GM204 980 using the Kepler releases for a reference point $600 for GM200/6GB is just too low. When the GK110 780 came out for $650 the GK104 GTX 680 refresh (GTX 770) was $400. If Nvidia sticks with that pricing then the GM200/6GB at $600 would need to push the 980 back to $350. I don't see that happening when people are happily paying $550 for their 980s. That's why I think the GM200/6GB will be $700 and probably dropping the 980 to $500 at the same time.

Let's hope the 390x is a real performance monster and forces nvidia to reduce its prices.

I suspect, once again based solely on rumors, that the R9 390X will be at least as fast as the GM200/6GB and possibly beat it by a little. The pricing will be critical to it's success though imo. If AMD can retail the card for $600 and if the GM200/6GB retails for $700 then the 390X will probably be the winner in price/performance.

 

[Fluffmeister]

Faster cards coming in the future, AMD fans in uproar!

 

[64K]

even if u buy a 980TI then it will be replaced in February next year or so.
buy when u need and replace.
iv bought new almost every year

i got a 690 laying around, and 3 7970s, and got 2 780s.
its getting crowded

Your hoard pile needs to be reduced. Time for a sale.

 

[DinaAngel]

Your hoard pile needs to be reduced. Time for a sale.

lol, yeah ill be giving my 780s to Maban, he might sell them.

they got permanent waterblocks on. soldered pretty much

 

[BarbaricSoul]

even if u buy a 980TI then it will be replaced in February next year or so.
buy when u need and replace.
iv bought new almost every year

i got a 690 laying around, and 3 7970s, and got 2 780s.
its getting crowded

You really ought to sell stuff when you replace it. Costs a lot less that way, and you don't have to worry about storage space.

I bought my 780ti very shortly after it's release. Paid about $740 total for it. I have no regrets with that purchase and the card itself. The GTX 980ti and 390X are the first cards that has me thinking about upgrading my 780ti.

And about replacing it next Feb? Hell, I've had my ti since Dec 2013, and it looks like it will be another 4-5 months before this 980ti/390X will be released. That's getting close to two years of use and still staying in the top three single GPU performance level. The only single GPU card that clearly beats my 780ti is the 980, but only by around 5%. The 290x and the +1 ghz 780ti trades blows back and forth. It will be interesting to see what happens and which comes out on top when the next King of the Hill cards are released.

 

[theGryphon]

I'm pretty sure it will be a GM200 core with one or two of the clusters cut. It makes perfect sense not only to create value out of the chips that don't perform at full specs, but also to avoid cannibalizing Titan X. Something with this Titan X is that it's not the prosumer card the Titan brand used to represent. It's a glorified gaming card. If they let 980Ti be faster than Titan X, they would destroy the Titan brand for good.

 

[64K]

You really ought to sell stuff when you replace it. Costs a lot less that way, and you don't have to worry about storage space.

I bought my 780ti very shortly after it's release. Paid about $740 total for it. I have no regrets with that purchase and the card itself. The GTX 980ti and 390X are the first cards that has me thinking about upgrading my 780ti.

And about replacing it next Feb? Hell, I've had my ti since Dec 2013, and it looks like it will be another 4-5 months before this 980ti/390X will be released. That's getting close to two years of use and still staying in the top three single GPU performance level. The only single GPU card that clearly beats my 780ti is the 980, but only by around 5%. The 290x and the +1 ghz 780ti trades blows back and forth. It will be interesting to see what happens and which comes out on top when the next King of the Hill cards are released.

That's true. That 780 Ti especially with the ACX cooler was a heck of performer and still is. If TSMC had gotten their act together with the 20nm process for Maxwell that would have allowed greater room for performance increase for Maxwells due to even greater efficiency provided by the 20nm process.

It will be a sad state of affairs if TSMC isn't ready for 16nm by the end of this year and the first Pascals have to come out on 28nm early next year.

 

[Sony Xperia S]

It will be a sad state of affairs if TSMC isn't ready for 16nm by the end of this year and the first Pascals have to come out on 28nm early next year.

AMD and nvidia can switch to GF and Samsung for future graphics cards production.

It is already reported that.

 

[Nate00]

Looks like Nvidia is Sh$ting bricks knowing that the new R390 is going to kill it's sales on there top end this time.
It will be interesting to see how fast the R390 will be especially the 4GB Version compared to NV Titan x 12GB.

TITAN X was a desperate attempt at trying to save some face. I mean come on , $1000 + for a card that was never really designed for gaming ? 12GB of memory ? LMAO .

 

[dados8756]

I wonder what will happen to Titan X user right now if they read this -_-" throwing their card??? selling their card???crying??? or hunt down Jen-Hsun Huang and fapped his P*nis in public ??? the choice is yours...

 

[Caring1]

I wonder what will happen to Titan X user right now if they read this -_-" throwing their card??? selling their card???crying??? or hunt down Jen-Hsun Huang and fapped his P*nis in public ??? the choice is yours...

Yeah, let's start a witch hunt before we have all the facts

 

[rtwjunkie]

I wonder what will happen to Titan X user right now if they read this -_-" throwing their card??? selling their card???crying??? or hunt down Jen-Hsun Huang and fapped his P*nis in public ??? the choice is yours...

Why would they? Anyone who watched all this happen with Kepler would know the Titan-X wasn't going to be the end of the line.

 

[the54thvoid]

I can't mention how I know...but this card will not be faster than the Titan X. The GTX 980 ti will have less Ram and cost less (about $700) then the GTX titan X. Call me a lier if you want.... just remember you heard it here first.
So for those who bought the new titan feel good about your purchase. However this card will not be released until AMD gets closer to releasing their R9 390X card.

I believe what you've been privvy to but:

Warning ---logic train of thought ahead---

1 - Titan X has about 10-20% OC head at stock volts, therefore GM200 can def go faster
2 - Titan X is 30-40% faster than GTX980
3 - R9 390X is as yet 'unknown' for performance - rumours suggest good potential.
4 - Nvidia wont play 2nd fiddle to AMD

So, if Nvidia says "No, 980ti wont be as fast as Titan" and 390X releases and IS faster than Titan, Nvidia just lost. Given point (1) above, Nvidia can easily beat Titan with a 6Gb vendor OC'ed GM200 with different card thresholds. Nvidia might well be saying - 980Ti is going to be slower but that makes no sense if 390X is a real threat to their position.

So...

a) Either Nvidia knows that Titan X is faster already than 390X or,
b) They're lying to their partners about how fast 980ti is going to be (to stop Titan X sales dropping), or
c) They know 390X is so good, they can't compete (really?).

I can't see a scenario where Nvidia will release a card in Summer than can't compete with 390X (but if they can't, I'm getting me a 390X). So if what you're saying is true, 390X sux ass or kicks ass (Titan X is already better or Nv have no answer).

There is no logic in NV releasing a card that is between 980 and Titan X performance, not with a 390X in the wings.

 

[heydan83]

Men I predicted this in so many forums and everyone laugh of me, I feel bad for all the 980s and Titan Xs buyers, Im including 980s owner because I think this new 980ti would be the same price as a 980 to compete to 390x and the same if not better performance than the Titan X, but with less vram so the Titan X can be kind of "useful" with 12 GB, because I doubt amd will release the 390x for more than 600 dlls.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I know something which nvidia won't like a lot: it turns out that under DX12 the R9 290X is faster than GTX 980 by the significant 33%.

Published by AMD Gaming in FB:

Good news: the results of the PC Perspective 3DMark API Overhead Feature Test are out. Best News: The AMD Radeon™ R9 290X graphics card delivers up to 33% higher performance than others. Game on.

http://community.amd.com/community/...t?hootPostID=047918477ec53f38115dc3ee9bee9ff0

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/3DMark-API-Overhead-Feature-Test-Early-DX12-Performance

that API overhead test is not to be used to compare hardware, it says that in the description of the test. Its solely to compare APIs.

 

[RyneSmith]

How are people on a tech forum shocked about this release? It's like this every time... open your eyes.

980 Ti will be faster than the Titan-X, why would they release a card to compete vs AMD that's slower than the already release Titan-X?

Titan-X isn't/wasn't a gaming card no matter the marketing. 980 Ti is the gaming card, will be fastest simple.