NVIDIA Readying GM200-based GeForce GTX 980 Ti

[DinaAngel]

How are people on a tech forum shocked about this release? It's like this every time... open your eyes.

980 Ti will be faster than the Titan-X, why would they release a card to compete vs AMD that's slower than the already release Titan-X?

Titan-X isn't/wasn't a gaming card no matter the marketing. 980 Ti is the gaming card, will be fastest simple.

noone said they was shocked. and like me, i bought a titan x due to i didnt want to wait. ill just buy a 980TI when it comes too lol. its not a big deal

 

[Caring1]

How are people on a tech forum shocked about this release? It's like this every time... open your eyes.

We're not, thank you.

 

[RyneSmith]

noone said they was shocked. and like me, i bought a titan x due to i didnt want to wait. ill just buy a 980TI when it comes too lol. its not a big deal

One example, sure more are to follow:

"Nvidia is a shit and if I am their customer (fortunately I'm seeing this and will never ever be until I'm alive and sane), I would be highly insulted by their arrogant and stupid behaviour." Sony Xperia

We're not, thank you.

Not saying you are, was just a general statement. This "Nvidia sucks" state of mind for releasing multiple cards/prices/performance/etc is just old to me, but such is life.

 

[heydan83]

How are people on a tech forum shocked about this release? It's like this every time... open your eyes.

980 Ti will be faster than the Titan-X, why would they release a card to compete vs AMD that's slower than the already release Titan-X?

Titan-X isn't/wasn't a gaming card no matter the marketing. 980 Ti is the gaming card, will be fastest simple.

The worse is that, Titan X it is a gaming card, the fact that even now it doesnt have the double-precision feature makes it even more a gaming card, and I think that worse than the shocked you´re talking about, it is people buying the Titan X, knowing that in the past both amd and nvidia in no time released cards faster and cheaper than the Titan, that it´s just a shit of a product that only fan boys buy, and hahaha even worse is the fact that those same fan boys are gonna sell their Titan Xs and buy 980ti, men this people are so brainwashed.

 

[Fluffmeister]

People don't want to wait for the best performance... what is naive is thinking these people don't know that cheaper and faster products will come out some time in the future.

A fella on another forum i frequent just put a new rig together with four Titan X's, he seems happy with it.

 

[btarunr]

VRAM + professional work.

Just a reminder, Titan-X does not have full double-precision floating point.

So the only thing Titan-X will have going for it vs. GTX 990, is 12 GB memory.

 

[heydan83]

People don't want to wait for the best performance... what is naive is thinking these people don't know that cheaper and faster products will come out some time in the future.

A fella on another forum i frequent just put a new rig together with four Titan X's, he seems happy with it.

Obviously there would be always faster and cheaper products, but for what we have seen for these GPU makers it is around a year-year and a half Im not saying to this people to wait for the next gen because it will be always a new next gen, Im talking about wait a few months for the release for the same product but cheaper, men if the rumors are true we are talking here about the 980ti with even better performance than the Titan X and if the same happens like past generations even less price just for wait a few months...

 

[64K]

People don't want to wait for the best performance... what is naive is thinking these people don't know that cheaper and faster products will come out some time in the future.

A fella on another forum i frequent just put a new rig together with four Titan X's, he seems happy with it.

good lord! What kind of monitors setup is he using?

Just a reminder, Titan-X does not have full double-precision floating point.

So the only thing Titan-X will have going for it vs. GTX 990, is 12 GB memory.

hmmmm so you think the GM200/6GB will be called a GTX 990? Well, that makes more sense than 980 Ti since that links it in some people's mind to a fast 980 which it is not.

 

[Captain_Tom]

I'm pretty sure it will be a GM200 core with one or two of the clusters cut. It makes perfect sense not only to create value out of the chips that don't perform at full specs, but also to avoid cannibalizing Titan X. Something with this Titan X is that it's not the prosumer card the Titan brand used to represent. It's a glorified gaming card. If they let 980Ti be faster than Titan X, they would destroy the Titan brand for good.

The Titan Series was always a glorified gaming card. Period.

Nvidia is faced with a big dilemma right now: Let Titan X remain their Top Dog and preserve the Titan Brand, or release the 980 Ti substantially stronger than it was meant to be and have a chance at trading blows with the 390X.

The thing is the 390X is likely to decimate the Titan X by 10-20% anways, so imo the Titan branding will be killed either way. My guess is Nvidia will release two new cards:

-985 as the cut die with 5+1GB of VRAM to compete with the 390, and then the 985 Ti full die to compete with the full 390X.

 

[the54thvoid]

The thing is the 390X is likely to decimate the Titan X by 10-20% anways, so imo the Titan branding will be killed either way.

Umm. Wasn't aware a 10% edge was tantamount to decimation. Titan certainly doesn't decimate its little brother and that's 30%+.

390X needs to be (by your estimate) up to what, 70% faster than 290X to be 20% faster than Titan X. I suppose we'll see in June.

Either way, win win for me and my next gfx purchase.

 

[DinaAngel]

Just a reminder, Titan-X does not have full double-precision floating point.

So the only thing Titan-X will have going for it vs. GTX 990, is 12 GB memory.

until dx 12 comes out with shared memmory across cards

 

[rtwjunkie]

We're not, thank you.

Actually, @RyneSmith is correct. Even on TPU. Check out the GTX 980 hybrid announcement. There are several people on there saying Titan-X is the only full Maxwell, or saying that any talk of a cut down gm200 is fantasy, etc, etc. A bunch of clueless folks posting stuff like that in there. I gave up trying to educate them yesterday, only to be vindicated by the now unofficial "official" rumor later in the day.

 

[15th Warlock]

Both GPUs will have the same GM200 core, and putting it under water will always yield better performance than any 3rd party manufacturer cooler may be strapped to these cards. My card in particular already is 12~15% faster than vanilla Titan-X out of the box, so I can't wait to let it stretch its legs once I can get some water cooling on it

Anyway, I find funny how a lot of fellow forumites start criticizing Titan -X owners, the card is here, now, and the fun of putting together a dream rig with these cards, and sharing the experience with you guys, is part of what compels me to post updates to my current rig build, but as a previous Titan owner, I knew a lot of hatred would be coming my way, been there, done that

The way I see it, both the 980Ti and 390X will once again raise the bar in terms of performance, and if that performance can be available to more ppl (and therefor, game developers find new ways to further push the envelope) the better. I've said it many times before, this is an exciting time to be a PC gamer!

As for all the nasty comments towards Titan-X owners, bring it on some ppl have been blessed to be able to afford the card right now (and trust me, I work really hard to earn my money) and it's always a fun experience to share building machines I only dreamed of back when I was in college. I came to this country with nothing but what little clothes I could fit in my luggage, and after working really hard for many years to get where I'm, splurging on these exotic cards and custom water coolers, is sort of like therapy to relax after a hard day at work.

The comments of people who have encouraged me to post more pics or show the progress when building my rigs, is reward enough for me to continue doing it, those people are the ones I consider my real friends in this community, you know who you guys are

 

[Fluffmeister]

good lord! What kind of monitors setup is he using?

LG 34UM95-P and some SONY 4K TV apparently.

Obviously there would be always faster and cheaper products, but for what we have seen for these GPU makers it is around a year-year and a half Im not saying to this people to wait for the next gen because it will be always a new next gen, Im talking about wait a few months for the release for the same product but cheaper, men if the rumors are true we are talking here about the 980ti with even better performance than the Titan X and if the same happens like past generations even less price just for wait a few months...

Oh I don't disagree, but like I said plenty of people don't want to wait, and history tells us the cards also sell just fine regardless. Besides the Titan X was ready, might as well sell it at a healthy price with the competition still months away.

 

[Animalpak]

You really ought to sell stuff when you replace it. Costs a lot less that way, and you don't have to worry about storage space.

I bought my 780ti very shortly after it's release. Paid about $740 total for it. I have no regrets with that purchase and the card itself. The GTX 980ti and 390X are the first cards that has me thinking about upgrading my 780ti.

And about replacing it next Feb? Hell, I've had my ti since Dec 2013, and it looks like it will be another 4-5 months before this 980ti/390X will be released. That's getting close to two years of use and still staying in the top three single GPU performance level. The only single GPU card that clearly beats my 780ti is the 980, but only by around 5%. The 290x and the +1 ghz 780ti trades blows back and forth. It will be interesting to see what happens and which comes out on top when the next King of the Hill cards are released.

Its logic you get the best of your GPU only when you buy it at day one like you did ...

There are new graphics cards every year that is the problem.

The faster you enjoy the latest tech the better is.

The bad thing you buy at the premium price like the Titan X.

But who cares? The Titan X are sold like hotcakes today.

The success of Nvidia able to sell products at $ 1,000 and make believe that it is totally normal and routine to people.

 

[N3M3515]

Acording to http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geforce-gtx-980-ti-has-3072-cuda-cores-and-6gb-of-gddr5.html
The 980Ti should be on average 10% faster than titan x.
So it would be trading blows with the 390x if not surpasing it by a few % maybe.

 

[Captain_Tom]

Umm. Wasn't aware a 10% edge was tantamount to decimation. Titan certainly doesn't decimate its little brother and that's 30%+.

390X needs to be (by your estimate) up to what, 70% faster than 290X to be 20% faster than Titan X. I suppose we'll see in June.

Either way, win win for me and my next gfx purchase.

Early benchmarks are showing a 70% gain, and lol while I don't think the Titan X is strong enough it does crush the 980 by 30-40% which is A LOT.

 

[64K]

Acording to http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/geforce-gtx-980-ti-has-3072-cuda-cores-and-6gb-of-gddr5.html
The 980Ti should be on average 10% faster than titan x.
So it would be trading blows with the 390x if not surpasing it by a few % maybe.

Thanks for the link. Looks good to me. ~12% faster core clocks than Titan X right out of the box and with a decent non-reference cooler probably better overclocking potential versus Titan X overclocking without overheating and throttling like the Titan X.

 

[vega22]

Stockholm syndrome, more than just depression for the swedes.

great to see what a high end card from nvidia looks like.

the 780ti seems so long ago...

 

[L337One91]

I can't mention how I know...but this card will not be faster than the Titan X. The GTX 980 ti will have less Ram and cost less (about $700) then the GTX titan X. Call me a lier if you want.... just remember you heard it here first.
So for those who bought the new titan feel good about your purchase. However this card will not be released until AMD gets closer to releasing their R9 390X card.

Titan X Owner detected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

 

[Slizzo]

With Kepler, the 780ti replaced the 780 in the product stack's pricing point on release (when 780 released, it was £550, when the 780ti released, it was £550, and the 780 was reduced to compete based on its performance). I believe the same will happen with the 980 and ti variant. 980 will probably see a price reduction to compete with the 390X based on price/performance.



This is why the ti will be faster than the Titan X. AIB custom cards, better parts and better cooler, reducing or eliminating throttling from heat.

GTX780 released at $650. I bought one on release day. When the 780Ti launched it was $700, and the 780 got bumped down to $550.

 

[RCoon]

GTX780 released at $650. I bought one on release day. When the 780Ti launched it was $700, and the 780 got bumped down to $550.

I guess different countries' retailers got different deals

 

[jabbadap]

Wonder if this could have 6GB/8Gbps memories...

 

[the54thvoid]

I find funny how a lot of fellow forumites start criticizing Titan -X owners, the card is here, now, and the fun of putting together a dream rig with these cards, and sharing the experience with you guys, is part of what compels me to post updates to my current rig build, but as a previous Titan owner, I knew a lot of hatred would be coming my way, been there, done that

Well, it's because they're assholes dummy!

 

[BorisDG]

Anyway, I find funny how a lot of fellow forumites start criticizing Titan -X owners

Because Titan card are sign of stupidity - pay 1k$ and some months later for almost half of the price, we have faster card. I already feel bad about you. Before we had at least double precision .. now only more gigs but for what?