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Thermaltake Draws Flack for Ripping Off Other Brands' Products

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well really hot hot topic :pimp:

The only thing i see here is that the consumer win here. Let the big boy fight and take the reste.
I mean look how many new product we gonna have.

lower price, beautiful case in many many color!":rockout:
 
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Thank god TPU giveaway i got real Fractal Design :lovetpu:
 

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I did have a Toughpower modular 750W PSU, whilst in reality only a middle of the road PSU, it took a fair amount of punishment with some SLi and Crossfire setups and lasted me 7 years before a rail went on me so from personal experience I cannot complain but I hate forgery so won't be buying anymore.
 

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I did have a Toughpower modular 750W PSU, whilst in reality only a middle of the road PSU, it took a fair amount of punishment with some SLi and Crossfire setups and lasted me 7 years before a rail went on me so from personal experience I cannot complain but I hate forgery so won't be buying anymore.
most of my hardware is thermatake's

is pretty bad to hear this… I have never experienced problems with such brand… that’s why I love it and still using it,
 
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This reminds of of the time we made sailboats plaques in shop class. I was absent 1 day dude stole my work sanded off my name left me his garbage carvings.Teacher didn't seem to believe me.

oh well
 
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most of my hardware is thermatake's

is pretty bad to hear this… I have never experienced problems with such brand… that’s why I love it and still using it,

Yeah, what little hardware I've had of there's has been ok... but I hate to see them ripping off other brands like this.
 

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Well... if we speak truth, it is not really Fractal Design that invented that "design" we are looking at... They ripped off Antec Performance series, nobody make a big deal back then...

Also, Thermaltake was first (mainstream) case maker that pushed modular design (Core Tower chassis), for example. They are nor better or worse than competition. There are hardly a few innovators in this field (Lian Li, Silverstone and couple of smaller companies), everything else is "borrowed"... :)
 
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Well... if we speak truth, it is not really Fractal Design that invented that "design" we are looking at... They ripped off Antec Performance series, nobody make a big deal back then...

Also, Thermaltake was first (mainstream) case maker that pushed modular design (Core Tower chassis), for example. They are nor better or worse than competition. There are hardly a few innovators in this field (Lian Li, Silverstone and couple of smaller companies), everything else is "borrowed"... :)

Yeah, I'll grant you that, but there's a difference between "borrowed" and a complete copy. This is more like a complete copy.
 
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I’m sure by now, many of you have heard about the controversy around us and Thermaltake. I want to say the amount of support we have received from the industry, professional modders and the community at large has been both incredibly humbling and so very much appreciated! All of you have been great!

When I sat in my office at home 5 years ago and began to sketching out the basic concept behind the M8, I never dreamed we would get to this point. With no marketing budget to work with at all, we reached out to the community to share our vision and found wonderful support for what we were trying to do. We have worked together all this time to produce the best case we can with the resources we have available. It’s been an incredible experience.

This brings us to where we are today. After all the work that went into establishing our brand, it seems unnecessary for a company that is over 100X our size with vast resources felt the need to so closely imitate the appearance of our cases. Love us or not, most people can readily recognize our “look”. I’ve seen people ask “Why does it matter?” “Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, right?”

Well, not really. It dilutes the brand we have worked so hard to build. They would be less and less recognizable as our own. Perhaps more importantly, it creates confusion in the market place. I have heard countless times how we “copied” the 900D. Nothing could be further from the truth, the SMH10 came out long before the 900D, but because Corsair is so dominant in the market place, people get it turned around. BTW, I not saying that Corsair “copied” us, they simply took a general concept and did their own take on it. It is unmistakable as a Corsair product. My concern is that a year from now that same will be said about us and the new “W” series, I know there will eventually be confusion in the marketplace about who did it first.

People have wondered why the cases are more expensive that most. Surely, we must all be driving Ferraris. That would be nice, but no. The materials to go into our cases are several more times more expensive than a typical mass produced product. There are a myriad of small details that most wouldn’t even realize are there, but serve to make the cases more durable and function better than other offerings in the market. We don’t make 10,000 units at a time, so spending 10’s of thousands of dollars (or more) on tooling for each case model would be wildly impractical.

Beyond direct materials and labor, there are many other costs to take into account: Facility and machinery expense, utilities, insurance, taxes, regulatory expenses, customer services, warranty costs, administrative costs, the list goes on… Our goal has always been to produce the best product we were capable of.

I know our products aren’t for everyone and that’s perfectly ok. We don’t aspire to take over the world smile emoticon We are big advocates for choice in the marketplace and don’t want to see anything that would impair that.

Finally, in closing, I want reiterate how much we appreciate all the support we have been given. Honestly, it’s hard not to be emotional about it. It’s been overwhelming in the best possible way. Since there is no way for me to reach out to every individual, please share this post to let the world know how much we appreciate the positive force they have been and continue to inspire us to greater
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Ok, now all of you get back to work and show us your next incredible project! grin emoticon

Peace,

Jim Keating
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CaseLabs"
 

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where is the TT forum rep? what does he have to say on all of this? :p
 

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I just bought a Thermaltake Core V1 Extreme Mini ITX case for my itx build and I'm really impressed with it. I've never been a TT fan, but I have to give them credit for this case. It is very disappointing that they clearly copied those cases, but it's not the first time a company has done this...
 
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You're right!!!!

That Fractal Define R5 does look like a rip off of my Antec P180 case,.....!!!!

Oh wait you weren't talking about that were you,......?

:)
 

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My first PC case was a Tt Tsunami, but I never bought anything else Tt after that. I have always regarded them as a cheap company; this stint confirms that. It pisses me off because I am a huge fan of what Fractal has been doing and own several of their cases.

I hope they get called out and held accountable.
 

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Is the ThermalTake case at least cheaper,...... ;)

For what its worth I see Rosewill ripping off everyone's designs too,....but I think they undercut on price at least,... :)
 
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