AMD "Fiji" Block Diagram Revealed, Runs Cool and Quiet

[okidna]

W1zzard has probably had the card for the last few weeks. Watching and laughing as we all speculate.

I don't have a 390 non-X yet from anyone. MSI sent a 380 and 370 too, but these are lower priority.

In the queue: EVGA 980 Ti SC+, PowerColor 390X PCS+, Zotac 980 Ti AMP!, and Fury X when I get one

Jun 20, 2015 at 12:41 AM

 

[xenocide]

Although to be honest, I doubt he would be able to say if he had one because of NDA's.

 

[Relayer]

So, let's see. The biggest complaints so far are...

It's water cooled
No HDMI 2.0
4GB HBM1

Is that it? I know I could throw in driver support, but as hard as it is to justify the other "issues" considering it hasn't even been released yet, it's really hard to complain about drivers. I can't even keep a straight face with the others.

 

[btarunr]

So, let's see. The biggest complaints so far are...

It's water cooled
No HDMI 2.0
4GB HBM1

No Hello Kitty Edition.

 

[Xzibit]

240mm AIO CLC for 95w CPUs are a must but if someone tries to sell me a 120mm AIO CLC with a 200w GPU I will be FURY X and complain every chance I get.

/Sarcasm

 

[Caring1]

No Hello Kitty Edition.

Wanna buy a sticker?

 

[GreiverBlade]

Don't give these performance/watt charts when a couple of Gameworks/Nvidia-poisoned games can swing things to their side by a great deal. Here's a chart of load power consumption. Keep in mind that on average your graphics card is under full load less than 20% of the day.
If you look at the chart, you'll see that TitanX consumes about the same as the 290X while being ~40ish% faster.

I personally wouldn't care about 40% more power under load for the same performance if the product is considerably cheaper. Again, an extra $10 - $15 for power bills in a one year period isn't much to talk about.

at last someone who realize a AMD card will not make a huge difference on a yearly electricity bill ... altho nividia did reduce the power needed for maxwell and it's what you're point ... but ahaha you also point that AMD did reduce the power needed and not from a generation to another but on the same chip generation, aka Hawaii/Grenada the reduction is 28w while the 780Ti/980Ti reduction is 12w ok the performance jump is totally not the same tho

but it's not the 3xx line that we want here (after all i have a 390 since 1 yrs and a half now ... woops 290 sorry) but Fiji, so what will the the ratio watt to performance (well more interested in performance summary than in consumption )

 

[mroofie]

That's just a render. Production cards have it the right way.

Hahahahah that CX PSU

 

[xenocide]

at last someone who realize a AMD card will not make a huge difference on a yearly electricity bill

Those numbers are calculated, not measured. W1zz actually measures the draw in real time and has an intense methodology that's more than plugging your computer into a cheap meter and guessing. Someone earlier pointed out why that chart is next to useless.

 

[Aquinus]

Those numbers are calculated, not measured. W1zz actually measures the draw in real time and has an intense methodology that's more than plugging your computer into a cheap meter and guessing. Someone earlier pointed out why that chart is next to useless.

I did in this post.

 

[wiak]

More AMD PR spin. If Fury didn't need water cooling, it wouldn't have it. Water cooling makes the product more expensive and margins lower.

But as always, game benchmarks and independent reviews will tell the truth. I wonder if they fixed the idle and BluRay playback power leakage...

You forgot that this is the top card meant for "geeks like us" until Fury X2 arrives in the fall. The other people will chose the Fury or the Nano

 

[Frick]

Then you have @W1zzard who has gone through painsteaking work

I'm just amazed what he used to do, can't imagine the stuff he goes through now.

 

[GreiverBlade]

Those numbers are calculated, not measured. W1zz actually measures the draw in real time and has an intense methodology that's more than plugging your computer into a cheap meter and guessing. Someone earlier pointed out why that chart is next to useless.

yeah alright, indeed the number in typical load are lower than that chart which is even better ahaha

in fact i didn't really care about the chart posted (i usually read my reviews on TPU only ... )

 

[thesmokingman]

Man, that is the best implementation of AIO cooling I have ever seen, it's literally a fullcover setup. It takes balls to do that.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Man, that is the best implementation of AIO cooling I have ever seen, it's literally a fullcover setup. It takes balls to do that.

Just because the shrowd is full cover doesn't mean the AIO pump and block part is full cover.

 

[qubit]

I like the fact that the GPU is a full power of 2 design and isn't the lopsided affair that we usually see on high end graphics cards ie 384-bit bus, 6GB RAM etc. This maxes out its performance.

 

[thesmokingman]

Just because the shrowd is full cover doesn't mean the AIO pump and block part is full cover.

??

 

[GreiverBlade]

??

interesting block configuration

 

[thesmokingman]

It is very cool. For a single gpu setup, there is literally no need to ever upgrade it from stock. 99% of AIO aftermarket units/setups I've seen have always ignored the vrm cooling, but this nails it from an OEM perspective eliminating the disadvantages of an AIO. I only wish the tubes were terminated in a way that you could put fittings on w/o having to resort to cutting the tubes but that is asking a lot.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

It is very cool. For a single gpu setup, there is literally no need to ever upgrade it from stock. 99% of AIO aftermarket units/setups I've seen have always ignored the vrm cooling, but this nails it from an OEM perspective eliminating the disadvantages of an AIO. I only wish the tubes were terminated in a way that you could put fittings on w/o having to resort to cutting the tubes but that is asking a lot.

So your saying if you got this card, and already have a water cooling loop and maybe you wanted to add GPU to it or you are replacing a GPU that was already there, you would leave the AIO? Rather than get a normal waterblock and integrate it into your water cooling system?

 

[Vlada011]

Yes card is beautiful but they should used normal tubes without sleeve as CORSAIR use on their coolers or some nice tubes as Hybrid.
This sleeve over look very cheap. But card look great. And you see that card was very cheap to build. It's not possible cheap price and fine product.
I think more people will decide for version with air cooling cheaper for 100$ and install water block. But I think other solution will show up.

What will AMD to do with 4GB. I will rather on TITAN X Superclocked.
If EVGA GTX980Ti Superclocked 100MHz higher clock than reference is faster than TITAN X, than TITAN X Superclocked 130MHz faster than other TITAN X is probably even better.
And off course no fps drops in games as Witcher 3, Batman and others with PhysX support.
AMD will stay silent when people start to complain on fps drops because low memory can't process all details and cause much lower fps on some moments.
Fiji is card only for someone who want to play on 1920x1080 and have plan to change graphic immediately when Fiji with 8GB show up, same as R9-290X...
Even for 1440p that's not nice option.

 

[mirakul]

Yes card is beautiful but they should used normal tubes without sleeve as CORSAIR use on their coolers or some nice tubes as Hybrid.
This sleeve over look very cheap. But card look great. And you see that card was very cheap to build. It's not possible cheap price and fine product.
I think more people will decide for version with air cooling cheaper for 100$ and install water block. But I think other solution will show up.

What will AMD to do with 4GB. I will rather on TITAN X Superclocked.
If EVGA GTX980Ti Superclocked 100MHz higher clock than reference is faster than TITAN X, than TITAN X Superclocked 130MHz faster than other TITAN X is probably even better.
And off course no fps drops in games as Witcher 3, Batman and others with PhysX support.
AMD will stay silent when people start to complain on fps drops because low memory can't process all details and cause much lower fps on some moments.
Fiji is card only for someone who want to play on 1920x1080 and have plan to change graphic immediately when Fiji with 8GB show up, same as R9-290X...
Even for 1440p that's not nice option.

People already bought this card and ran it at 4K without any problem. VRAM never reached 4GB in SoM at 4K, so the driver team of AMD does know how to use 4GB of HBM as effectively as 6GB of GDDR5.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/h...iew]-sapphire-amd-r9-fury-x-rise-5087633.html

And plz keep your opinions about Gimpworks and Physi.icK titles for yourself.

 

[Aquinus]

interesting block configuration

Simple configuration, I'm not sure about interesting. The copper pipe is attached to the VRMs as they should be cooled like everything else and the block/pump covers the rest of the GPU which now includes memory. It's actually very straightforward and simple.

People already bought this card and ran it at 4K without any problem. VRAM never reached 4GB in SoM at 4K, so the driver team of AMD does know how to use 4GB of HBM as effectively as 6GB of GDDR5.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/hardware-clinic-2/[gpu-review]-sapphire-amd-r9-fury-x-rise-5087633.html

If you're not utilizing 4GB then you're definitely not utilizing more than that on a 6GB card. I fail to understand your logic here. I would call that a false equivalency.

And plz keep your opinions about Gimpworks and Physi.icK titles for yourself.

Keep your attitude to yourself...

 

[thesmokingman]

So your saying if you got this card, and already have a water cooling loop and maybe you wanted to add GPU to it or you are replacing a GPU that was already there, you would leave the AIO? Rather than get a normal waterblock and integrate it into your water cooling system?

Maybe if the tubes were terminated so that I wouldn't void the whole card I would try it. The block seems to work pretty good from reviews and I'd assume with a lot more rad surface and head pressure from a full loop, the stock AIO would actually work decently. Obviously it's not going to match a fullcover but it doesn't look to be junk either.