R520 spy pics

[Unregistered]

AGP is a dying breed. Yes it is all that is needed for videocards of today, but then remember agp is on the same bus as all your pci slots, so sound blaster audigy 2 + 6800ultra + whatever else you may have in your pci slots = bottlneck. what seperates pci express from agp is the fact that its bandwidth isnt determined by the southbridge anymore. that and we'd have to go to pci express eventually anyway, its the next step, along with 64 bit computing... so why not just go along for the ride... plus, buying a new processor, motherboard, ram, and videocard to do that upgrade isnt really that bad now is it?

 

[djbbenn]

Its fine riding along with the flow, buts its keeping up with the flow lol. But sooner or later, everyone will have to move to PCI-E, as the new cards are just not going to be produced in AGP. Its a pain ya, I know I am dealing with it now, but if you want to keep up, you need to change. And as the last guys said, who can complain about having new hardware.

-Dan

 

[15th Warlock]

This thread has become a circus, freaking grow up ppl...

 

[Unregistered]

Smoke my 7800GTX

I think I will keep my 7800GTX's, never been a fan of ATI, never will be. I think that the 512MB of RAM is ridiculous, just make us pay more money for something we dont need / cant utilize, BLEH.!

 

[Unregistered]

I'm sure if your nvida had 512mb you woldn't be complaining. If you don't think 512mb can be used you are wrong.

 

[wazzledoozle]

I propose no more unregistered posting in the news section.

 

[djbbenn]

I propose no more unregistered posting in the news section.

I tend to agree with you Wazz, it seems that all the "unregistered" posters all constanly fighting or posting unnecessary things. Some are ok, but if they are that intent on posting here they should register.

-Dan

 

[Unregistered]

AGP IS good, but PCI-x is better

nuff said

tough i won't be noticeable until Windows vista i think
greetz

 

[Ратибор]

Хорошая карта , срочно пошёл покупать ......

 

[Unregistered]

crappy product will b to much money for old shitty tech lol whos wants crappy product.

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

crappy product will b to much money for old shitty tech lol whos wants crappy product.

what a waste of bandwidth.

AGP IS good, but PCI-x is better

nuff said

tough i won't be noticeable until Windows vista i think
greetz

Pci-X isnt PCI-e.. pci-E is very very different.. pci-x is 66mhz pci.

 

[Nyte]

Doom 3 Ultra Quality mode REQUIRES 512 MB VRAM.

Even if you set it at that mode with less than 512 MB and it loads fine, it is in essence using High Quality and not Ultra Quality.

Hook your card up to an interposer and protocol analyzer and see for yourself. Alot of people like to think that they actually use Ultra Quality mode when in fact it is defaulted to High.

256 MB VRAM = Compressed lower quality textures (High Quality even when you set it to Ultra Quality)
512 MB VRAM = Uncompressed high quality textures (TRUE high quality)


Cheers.

 

[15th Warlock]

Doom 3 Ultra Quality mode REQUIRES 512 MB VRAM.

Yes and no, Doom3 will load the uncompressed textures to a 256 MBs video card just fine, and it has been shown in many tests that having a 512 MBs video card won't make Doom3's UQ mode run that much faster.
When Id was questioned about this weird behaviour, a programmer who worked in that game said that Doom3 doesn't load the whole 512 MBs of textures for a single frame, it's just that in certain parts of any given map the game has to dump the textures and load new ones when using a 256 MBs video card, thus, slowing the framerates a little bit, but the difference is almost imperceptible...
One game that benefits greatly from having 512 MBs of video ram is Half Life 2, as some benchmarks show a noticeable improvement when compared to using a 256 MBs video card, but as framerates in HL2 already are very high, you won't notice any difference during gameplay...

 

[15th Warlock]

About Doom3 UQ mode, check what id Programmer Brian Harris has to say:

A single scene doesn't use up all 512MB of video RAM. Having extra RAM will decrease hitches when moving from one area to another because the textures from the new area will already be on the video card. If a single scene is using more memory (textures + vertex data) than is available on the video card, then will you see significant frame rate drops because it has to upload and dump the textures multiple times as it's rendering. This happens in very few cases (we spent a lot of time minimizing it) but I believe it still happens in the "Turkey Baster Room" in Alpha Labs 2 (the room with the giant laser thing).

http://www.beyond3d.com/reviews/sapphire/512/index.php?p=tb

 

[wazzledoozle]

I can run Ultra on my 6800 great, it just pauses when entering a new room. Running at high detail runs perfectly though, and there is no difference in image quality.

 

[Unregistered]

Ati Forever

Ati Forever Nvidia Is Shit!!!!!

 

[SPHERE]

Ati Forever Nvidia Is Shit!!!!!

ok....

 

[Unregistered]

AGP sucks, thank god there making all new cards PCI x so all you slowpoks can upgrade and get with
reality, if your really a computer fan you will have a new pc every 6 months, especially when you play games on a 23 inch apple display @ 1920x1200!!!!! I cant even play doom3 100% with a 3.73EE and a x850xt PE




PS nvidia sucks so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SPHERE]

PS nvidia sucks so bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a fanboy doing what he does best, declairing a opinion to be true without even presenting one shred of proof...

 

[15th Warlock]

I propose no more unregistered posting in the news section.

Wazzle, I really think it's time to apply your proposal, the purpose of our forum has never been to support factless fanboyish arguments

 

[W1zzard]

Ati Forever Nvidia Is Shit!!!!!

thank you for your great comemnt .. from now on only registered people can comment on the news

 

[Solaris17]

Hura w1zzard.......

 

[mardo000]

520 Agp

I heard that the R520 will use some thing called a 'Rialto' chipset that will allow the card to run on AGP and PCI-ex. This would help out anybody such as myself who dont want to haveto buy a new socket 775 CPU and PCI ex board. And before you argue that if I've got the money for a r520 why not cough up the money for a new board and CPU, well consider this: the r520 will not be as expensive as everyone is guessing, the 7800GTX is already down as low as 430 USD so the r520 would need to be at a similar price to be competitive, if not cheaper seeing as it may be a little less powerful, plus Nvidia are already talking about lowering the 7800GTX to 400 USD to stifle the r520 sales when it is released. Suddenly the r520 isn't looking so expensive.

 

[intel igent]

the rialto probably would work as they used it on the x850's. i think

 

[mardo000]

for gamers, which i think the majority of high end card buyers are, there is almost no bonus from AGP to PCI-ex anyway so something as simply as the rialto chip for the r520 would be a really innovative idea from ATI, if they bother to look out for me and make a agp r520 I'll be sold from nvidia to ati, and i've got a 6800 ultra